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  1. pappy53's Avatar
    I totally disagree. Even mid range Android phones are better now.
    Obviously, you haven't read basically every review on the planet, if you believe that. You are just fanboying now.

    "..in the US...

    And Android has already done it. There was a time when way more people bought iPhones than Android phones...what happened?"

    iPhone can't compete with the quantity of junk that Android sells overseas.
    01-03-2014 03:39 PM
  2. pappy53's Avatar
    ...in the US...

    And Android has already done it. There was a time when way more people bought iPhones than Android phones...what happened?
    iPhone has never led in marketshare.
    01-03-2014 03:40 PM
  3. JRDroid's Avatar
    Obviously, you haven't read basically every review on the planet, if you believe that. You are just fanboying now.

    "..in the US...

    And Android has already done it. There was a time when way more people bought iPhones than Android phones...what happened?"

    iPhone can't compete with the quantity of junk that Android sells overseas.
    I strongly suggest you just drop the argument with JeffDenver. I have been part of more than one thread that ended up locked because of discussions with him.

    However, I agree with you. There may be midrange Android phones that are higher resolution than the iPhone, but there is a TON more that goes into screen quality than just resolution. Color reproduction, brightness, contrast ratio, gamma, and other factors also hugely impact screen quality. It is in these areas that the iPhone BLOWS the mid range (and some flagship) Android devices out of the water and to such a degree that it has a vastly superior screen than the higher resolution competition. Once a phone reaches over 300 DPI, I really don't care what its resolution is, because at the distance I personally hold my phone from my face 99% of the time, I cannot see individual pixels and text looks perfectly clear and smooth, so I get no benefit from higher resolution. Sure, you get more content on the screen, but then it is smaller so I either have to hold the phone closer to my face or zoom in to read text. Not to mention throwing more (largely unneeded) pixels on a screen reduces battery life.
    01-03-2014 04:01 PM
  4. Duncan1982's Avatar
    This is all very interesting but tech moves in one direction and it's also physics based that processing power will increase. True octa core 64bit chips will happen also ram will increase year by year from the 4gb in 2014 to 5gb ram in 2015 ect ect also I revert back to processors from the 2.5ghz to 3ghz in 2015.

    Screen tech will jump to 4k and I'm not sure if it would go beyond that and to many and myself it's not required but if it is more efficient then that is the plus.

    Battery needs to improve although on my Note 3 is pretty decent. This will no doubt get better also.

    But I think Samsung will push tizen and hopefully utilise that in an optimum way that is more pleasing than touchwiz.

    But where will design and functionality go beyond what is been mentioned is the very question and we can at this point only speculate.

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    01-03-2014 05:17 PM
  5. Ry's Avatar
    My predictions:

    In 2014, companies will continue to iterate on based on their existing products. Processors will get faster. OEMs will put more RAM in their phones. 16/32GB will be the starting points for internal memory and 64GB options will still be rare. I suspect that 64GB will only be significant options on phones that shoot 4K video.


    Nexus and Google Play edition

    New Nexus 10 (finally). Not made by Samsung. The next Nexus phone will be a Nexus 5 (2014). The next Nexus 7 inch tablet will be the Nexus 7 (2014). There will Google Play editions of the next Galaxy S, the next HTC One. Motorola will not make a Nexus phone in 2014.

    We will see a Google Now smartwatch released in 2014. Motorola will be involved in the smartwatch.

    Oh and no Nexus device will have a expandable memory card slot. And forget about a removable battery.


    Samsung

    Samsung will release a Galaxy S5 and a Galaxy Note 4. The Galaxy S5 will have a slightly larger screen and the overall size will grow just a bit. Samsung's plastic will remain. I'm also predicting that the Galaxy S5 will have a slight curved based on the Galaxy Round. The Galaxy Note 4 will go the same route (slightly larger) but with the faux-leather.

    This will also be the year where Samsung launches with Exynos in major LTE markets instead of Qualcomm's Snapdragon chips.

    Tizen will remain irrelevant to the US market. But they'll still make a boat load of devices (Megas, Cameras, Tabs). Samsung may have jumped the shark in 2013 though.


    HTC

    HTC continues it's slide towards irrelevance. The follow up to the HTC One will be a good looking device but HTC won't have the marketing dollars to see it through. HTC will continue with Mini and Max variants of the next "One" and the Desire brand will continue on for budget and prepaid lines. Motorola and LG will distance themselves from HTC in terms of global marketshare.


    LG

    LG will grow based on strong products but it won't be anything significant. I see them launching multiple curved screen devices in 2014 and tech reviewers will prefer LG's curved phones over Samsung's curved phones. Only way LG makes a significant dent though is if they spend Samsung money on Marketing. LG will release a smartwatch.


    Motorola

    Motorola will continue to build on the software strategy: 1. Ensure that we build on a foundation of pure Android, 2. Build experiences that compliment Android and Google services, not compete with them, and 3. Ensure that we can build software that gives value back to the user.

    Motorola phones of 2014 won't match specs with the flagship devices from folks like LG, HTC, and Samsung. But even with "lower" specs, Motorola's 2014 devices will perform just as good as the higher-spec'ed devices from the other OEMs. Motorola will stick to Super AMOLED screens for their flagship devices that are 4.7" and larger.

    Motorola won't release a MAXX phone outside of the 2014 DROID line - and yes, the DROIDs will continue.

    And because they're putting apps like Motorola Assist and Touchless Controls in the Play Store, the Moto X will be able to do the same things as it's successor.


    ZTE/Huawei

    For these guys, their high-end devices won't make a dent in the US. But expect to see them continue to be the white label provider for carrier-branded phones.


    Sony

    Sony will release a Windows Phone device. Sony's Android phone still won't break through in the US market.


    Nokia

    Nokia grows marketshare for Windows Phone completely distancing itself from BlackBerry as the defacto number 3 option. Windows Phone updates will bring features that people have been asking for (like a "proper" notification center) but visually, they won't be like what people have been wanting.

    Nokia's Android phone will be released, but it'll be more like Amazon and their "forked" Fire OS.


    Apple

    The next iPhone (iPhone 6, presumably) will NOT go over 4". It will roughly be the same size as the iPhone 5S. It'll carry over the fingerprint scanner. The processor will be bumped up. The camera specs will be bumped up. But the next version of iOS will be the story.

    The next iPad will get the fingerprint scanner and iOS 8 will add proper multi-user accounts for their tablets.


    The upstarts

    Blu, Cyanogen, Firefox OS, Ubuntu, Sailfish will remain niche products, irrelevant to the mass market.


    BlackBerry

    R.I.P. 2014


    Differentiation in Android

    More important than hardware will be the software. Motorola's 2013 phones will get Android updates faster than Google Play edition devices from 2013. Google Now will add new commands. Samsung won't stop adding S-software. Software and UI changes that OEMs add to Android (or make replacements of existing features) will continue. Get over it if you want all Android phones to run "stock" Android out of the box - technically the Nexus 5 does not.

    64-bit support will be on most Android flagships, but nothing is going to fully take advantage of it in 2014.

    And companies will continue to call their improvements revolutionary when they're just evolutionary and iterative. And people will still be upset over that marketing message.
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    01-03-2014 05:55 PM
  6. JRDroid's Avatar
    Apple

    The next iPhone (iPhone 6, presumably) will NOT go over 4". It will roughly be the same size as the iPhone 5S. It'll carry over the fingerprint scanner. The processor will be bumped up. The camera specs will be bumped up. But the next version of iOS will be the story.

    The next iPad will get the fingerprint scanner and iOS 8 will add proper multi-user accounts for their tablets.

    This is the only place I think you are way off base, the rest all seems very likely. I really think Apple created the "c" line of iPhone in perperation for a bigger iPhone. The iPhone "6" will go larger, likely 4.5" or 4.7", it won't be phablet territory. The iPhone "6c" will be the iPhone you described. iOS7 was a major overhaul of iOS, I don't think we will see major things on the OS front from Apple. iOS 8 will be itterative. Siri improvements, maps improvements, Safari improvements, etc. will be what it brings. If there is major news, I think it will be one (or both) of two things. First, the multi user profiles you discussed for tablets. Second, I think there is a real chance Apple allows you to assign alternate default applications for a select few apps. I think browser and email are likely candidates for that.
    01-03-2014 06:43 PM
  7. Ry's Avatar
    This is the only place I think you are way off base, the rest all seems very likely. I really think Apple created the "c" line of iPhone in perperation for a bigger iPhone. The iPhone "6" will go larger, likely 4.5" or 4.7", it won't be phablet territory. The iPhone "6c" will be the iPhone you described. iOS7 was a major overhaul of iOS, I don't think we will see major things on the OS front from Apple. iOS 8 will be itterative. Siri improvements, maps improvements, Safari improvements, etc. will be what it brings. If there is major news, I think it will be one (or both) of two things. First, the multi user profiles you discussed for tablets. Second, I think there is a real chance Apple allows you to assign alternate default applications for a select few apps. I think browser and email are likely candidates for that.
    I don't see Apple going beyond 1136x640 on a phone yet.
    01-03-2014 07:06 PM
  8. wizzrah's Avatar
    I don't see Apple going beyond 1136x640 on a phone yet.
    Why not? They might, but the transition might be a little too late...

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    01-03-2014 08:22 PM
  9. Ry's Avatar
    Why not? They might, but the transition might be a little too late...

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    "Yet". I think eventually they will, just not in 2014.

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    01-03-2014 08:24 PM
  10. wizzrah's Avatar
    "Yet". I think eventually they will, just not in 2014.

    Posted via Android Central App
    Ah ok.

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    01-03-2014 09:18 PM
  11. JeffDenver's Avatar
    iPhone has never led in marketshare.
    I did not make the claim that it did. I said it was way ahead of Android. And that now it is way behind. Which is true.
    01-04-2014 08:40 AM
  12. JeffDenver's Avatar
    iPhone can't compete with the quantity of junk that Android sells overseas.
    The best selling Android phones are not low end.
    01-04-2014 08:41 AM
  13. pappy53's Avatar
    The best selling Android phones are not low end.
    Overseas, they are.

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    01-04-2014 09:16 AM
  14. pappy53's Avatar
    I did not make the claim that it did. I said it was way ahead of Android. And that now it is way behind. Which is true.
    Not way behind in this country, and gaining ground.

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    01-04-2014 09:18 AM
  15. pappy53's Avatar
    I strongly suggest you just drop the argument with JeffDenver. I have been part of more than one thread that ended up locked because of discussions with him.
    I can agree with this^
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    01-04-2014 01:43 PM
  16. someguy01234's Avatar
    This is the only place I think you are way off base, the rest all seems very likely. I really think Apple created the "c" line of iPhone in perperation for a bigger iPhone. The iPhone "6" will go larger, likely 4.5" or 4.7", it won't be phablet territory. The iPhone "6c" will be the iPhone you described. iOS7 was a major overhaul of iOS, I don't think we will see major things on the OS front from Apple. iOS 8 will be itterative. Siri improvements, maps improvements, Safari improvements, etc. will be what it brings. If there is major news, I think it will be one (or both) of two things. First, the multi user profiles you discussed for tablets. Second, I think there is a real chance Apple allows you to assign alternate default applications for a select few apps. I think browser and email are likely candidates for that.
    I haven't look at any stats, but my impression seems to be the 5c have failed and isn't very popular, if that's the case I don't see them continuing with that concept. I could be wrong, but I don't follow Apple that closely.
    01-04-2014 05:40 PM
  17. pappy53's Avatar
    I haven't look at any stats, but my impression seems to be the 5c have failed and isn't very popular, if that's the case I don't see them continuing with that concept. I could be wrong, but I don't follow Apple that closely.
    5c is the second best selling smartphone on 3 carriers, and third on the other one. I wouldn't call that a failure. :-)

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    01-04-2014 05:48 PM
  18. JRDroid's Avatar
    I haven't look at any stats, but my impression seems to be the 5c have failed and isn't very popular, if that's the case I don't see them continuing with that concept. I could be wrong, but I don't follow Apple that closely.
    In my reasoning, Apple doesn't care how the 5c does this year (though I think it is doing alright). Like I said, the entire reason was simply to get people used to the two lines of iPhones. Once they are further apart in specs and features, there will be more reason for people to want a "c" level iPhone. It also gives them room to raise the price of the higher end model.
    01-04-2014 06:38 PM
  19. JeffDenver's Avatar
    Overseas, they are.
    Which high end Android phones is the iPhone outselling over seas?
    01-04-2014 08:43 PM
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