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  1. Evilguppy's Avatar
    I just retired my Note3 and got a Q10.
    Why?
    Because the KitKat update, which was forced on me after I refused it several times, literally massacred my Note3.
    I loved my Note3 on Jellybean, but Kitkat is a revolting farce.
    And the fact that this butchery was forced on me was really the last straw. It's my effing phone, I paid for it, how dare they dictate the OS it runs on?

    So I got a Q10 and I couldn't be happier.
    Blackberry may have its down sides, like the lack of apps, but seriously, I find my Q10 faster, smoother and more powerful than my Note3.
    I also like the camera quite a bit.
    What I really love is that I won't be forced to bend over and take whatever software updates they roll out if I don't want to, and should I decide to update, if I don't like it, I can go back.

    Oddly enough, coming from a Note3, I do not feel the need for a Z30 as I love the physical keyboard. I don't get auto corrected if I don't want to and I never, ever get typos.
    And I don't feel the craving for the Passport either because even though my screen is now smaller, I really, really love being able to shove my phone in any pocket and type one handed at record speed.

    But I do see a market for the Passport: while I don't feel the need for one now, if Blackberry doesn't come up with a tablet to replace the now discontinued Playbook, I might change my mind and get one anyway.
    Because much as I like my Note Pro, I hate Google a little more everyday, I am getting increasing annoyed with the lagging issue and I have to admit the keyboard is not all that accurate.
    But I suppose I will keep it for now because it does have some really cool features, plus I've already spent the money, lol.

    But don't count Blackberry out just yet. Apple, Android and Microsoft have enough issues to have left the door wide open for a BlackBerry comeback.
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    06-26-2014 01:06 AM
  2. mrsmumbles's Avatar
    I think the new devices are interesting. You have to admit they offer a unique product. I'm not a fan of the physical keyboard but I think enough people could be that hopefully BBY will have some success.
    06-26-2014 03:02 AM
  3. Billy Bob Jimmy Joe's Avatar
    The square 1:1 ratio screen is terrible. The Classic looks alright but the Passport looks disgusting.

    Posted from my Nexus 5 via Android Central App
    06-26-2014 04:12 AM
  4. A895's Avatar
    I just retired my Note3 and got a Q10.
    Why?
    Because the KitKat update, which was forced on me after I refused it several times, literally massacred my Note3.
    I loved my Note3 on Jellybean, but Kitkat is a revolting farce.
    And the fact that this butchery was forced on me was really the last straw. It's my effing phone, I paid for it, how dare they dictate the OS it runs on?

    So I got a Q10 and I couldn't be happier.
    Blackberry may have its down sides, like the lack of apps, but seriously, I find my Q10 faster, smoother and more powerful than my Note3.
    I also like the camera quite a bit.
    What I really love is that I won't be forced to bend over and take whatever software updates they roll out if I don't want to, and should I decide to update, if I don't like it, I can go back.

    Oddly enough, coming from a Note3, I do not feel the need for a Z30 as I love the physical keyboard. I don't get auto corrected if I don't want to and I never, ever get typos.
    And I don't feel the craving for the Passport either because even though my screen is now smaller, I really, really love being able to shove my phone in any pocket and type one handed at record speed.

    But I do see a market for the Passport: while I don't feel the need for one now, if Blackberry doesn't come up with a tablet to replace the now discontinued Playbook, I might change my mind and get one anyway.
    Because much as I like my Note Pro, I hate Google a little more everyday, I am getting increasing annoyed with the lagging issue and I have to admit the keyboard is not all that accurate.
    But I suppose I will keep it for now because it does have some really cool features, plus I've already spent the money, lol.

    But don't count Blackberry out just yet. Apple, Android and Microsoft have enough issues to have left the door wide open for a BlackBerry comeback.
    No. Just, No. BlackBerry would have to pull a miracle out their behinds to even get back up to Microsoft's market share. They managed not to lose much money recently, but in the consumer space, they are pretty much done for.

    Posted via Droid Razr M on the Android Central App
    06-26-2014 07:11 AM
  5. jlarkins08's Avatar
    T-Mobile won't have them, I know that much!!
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    06-26-2014 07:46 AM
  6. Dominick079's Avatar
    I'm very disappointed with their being no high end flagship of the full touch variety. Could at least have given a slider like the Torch!

    The Classic is pretty nice. The Passport is so square I can't possibly fathom getting my hands around it comfortably.

    I still want to see them in person anyways, even if just out of curiosity.

    Sent from a larger than life device using Tapatalk!
    I agree they should of released a high end all touch screen device. But BlackBerry lives in the past because most people want all touch screen devices. But this is why BlackBerry is in the position they are in because they live in the past. I'm so glad I got rid of my Z10 and bought the Note 3. I will also purchase the Note 4 when it arrives

    Posted Via AT&T Galaxy Note 3
    06-26-2014 07:53 AM
  7. Dominick079's Avatar
    I just retired my Note3 and got a Q10.
    Why?
    Because the KitKat update, which was forced on me after I refused it several times, literally massacred my Note3.
    I loved my Note3 on Jellybean, but Kitkat is a revolting farce.
    And the fact that this butchery was forced on me was really the last straw. It's my effing phone, I paid for it, how dare they dictate the OS it runs on?

    So I got a Q10 and I couldn't be happier.
    Blackberry may have its down sides, like the lack of apps, but seriously, I find my Q10 faster, smoother and more powerful than my Note3.
    I also like the camera quite a bit.
    What I really love is that I won't be forced to bend over and take whatever software updates they roll out if I don't want to, and should I decide to update, if I don't like it, I can go back.

    Oddly enough, coming from a Note3, I do not feel the need for a Z30 as I love the physical keyboard. I don't get auto corrected if I don't want to and I never, ever get typos.
    And I don't feel the craving for the Passport either because even though my screen is now smaller, I really, really love being able to shove my phone in any pocket and type one handed at record speed.

    But I do see a market for the Passport: while I don't feel the need for one now, if Blackberry doesn't come up with a tablet to replace the now discontinued Playbook, I might change my mind and get one anyway.
    Because much as I like my Note Pro, I hate Google a little more everyday, I am getting increasing annoyed with the lagging issue and I have to admit the keyboard is not all that accurate.
    But I suppose I will keep it for now because it does have some really cool features, plus I've already spent the money, lol.

    But don't count Blackberry out just yet. Apple, Android and Microsoft have enough issues to have left the door wide open for a BlackBerry comeback.
    My friends and I have upgraded their Note 3 to Kit Kat and our devices run alot smoother on Kit Kat. So I don't know why you had issues with Kit Kat. If you like the Q10 better thats what counts.

    But to say the Q10 is more powerful then the Note 3 is completely false. I have used both and the Note 3 is alot more powerful and runs smoother then the Q10 and its not even close. The Note 3 is better in every way then any BlackBerry device currently available

    Posted Via AT&T Galaxy Note 3
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    06-26-2014 08:01 AM
  8. Dominick079's Avatar
    No. Just, No. BlackBerry would have to pull a miracle out their behinds to even get back up to Microsoft's market share. They managed not to lose much money recently, but in the consumer space, they are pretty much done for.

    Posted via Droid Razr M on the Android Central App
    Yes they have absolutely no chance to be relevant in the cusomer market. That time has passed a long time ago

    Posted Via AT&T Galaxy Note 3
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    06-26-2014 08:04 AM
  9. Septembersrain's Avatar
    My friends and I have upgraded their Note 3 to Kit Kat and our devices run alot smoother on Kit Kat. So I don't know why you had issues with Kit Kat. If you like the Q10 better thats what counts.

    But to say the Q10 is more powerful then the Note 3 is completely false. I have used both and the Note 3 is alot more powerful and runs smoother then the Q10 and its not even close. The Note 3 is better in every way then any BlackBerry device currently available

    Posted Via AT&T Galaxy Note 3
    Having owned the Q10 too, I completely agree. Now how it runs to each individual, that's all about them. As for KitKat, I've got a ROM spin off so I haven't encountered any lag or problems myself. =]

    I'm still pretty sad my Z10 didn't ever get back to 100% and I'm hoping they'll release another full touch that has a better display than the Z30.


    Sent from Blue 32 using Tapatalk Pro.
    06-26-2014 08:53 AM
  10. Dominick079's Avatar
    Having owned the Q10 too, I completely agree. Now how it runs to each individual, that's all about them. As for KitKat, I've got a ROM spin off so I haven't encountered any lag or problems myself. =]

    I'm still pretty sad my Z10 didn't ever get back to 100% and I'm hoping they'll release another full touch that has a better display than the Z30.


    Sent from Blue 32 using Tapatalk Pro.
    I agree instead of releasing the Passport they should of released a high end full touch screen device. As far as comparing any BlackBerry 10 device to the Note 3 in performance is just comical. I have used all BB10 devices and the Note 3 out preforms all of them

    Posted Via AT&T Galaxy Note 3
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    06-26-2014 09:27 AM
  11. Evilguppy's Avatar
    Lol, obviously I wasn't expecting people to agree with me here, but consider this:
    I was recently on vacation, hiking and backpacking several national parks in Utah.
    I wound up in places with very spotty connection.
    There were other people there, all with iphones and Android phones.
    When they couldn't get any connection, I could.
    When they could, I did in half the time that they did.
    When opening the browser to do a search, the Q10 was also faster.
    So sure, there's that pesky app situation, and honestly that is the one reason why I would keep an android or Apple device on hand.
    But seriously, it'll be a cold day in hell when I go back to using Apple or Android for phones, and again, being forced to upgrade against my wish is simply the last straw.

    I am not saying that Blackberry will beat the other companies in the market.
    But I am saying that there is a market for Blackberry and that it's not about to die off, especially if Blackberry keeps rolling out operating systems like the 10.

    Oh and btw... It took me forever to write this post on my Note Pro because I keep getting auto corrected or the keyboard keeps making mistakes. That never happens with my Q10.
    So yes, I really like my Note Pro, but when speed is of the essence, I use my Q10.

    And yes, do disagree, but have no fear: whatever I have to say is not going to threaten your devices, no one will take them away from you, lol.
    06-26-2014 09:59 AM
  12. Nibs's Avatar
    The only thing that attracts me to BB is their keyboard. For me it's by far the best keyboard I've ever used.
    06-26-2014 10:20 AM
  13. Dominick079's Avatar
    The only thing that attracts me to BB is their keyboard. For me it's by far the best keyboard I've ever used.
    Yeah their physical keyboard is the best but the touch screen keyboard on my Note 3 is just as good if not better then it was on my Z10

    Posted Via AT&T Galaxy Note 3
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    06-26-2014 10:45 AM
  14. Dominick079's Avatar
    Lol, obviously I wasn't expecting people to agree with me here, but consider this:
    I was recently on vacation, hiking and backpacking several national parks in Utah.
    I wound up in places with very spotty connection.
    There were other people there, all with iphones and Android phones.
    When they couldn't get any connection, I could.
    When they could, I did in half the time that they did.
    When opening the browser to do a search, the Q10 was also faster.
    So sure, there's that pesky app situation, and honestly that is the one reason why I would keep an android or Apple device on hand.
    But seriously, it'll be a cold day in hell when I go back to using Apple or Android for phones, and again, being forced to upgrade against my wish is simply the last straw.

    I am not saying that Blackberry will beat the other companies in the market.
    But I am saying that there is a market for Blackberry and that it's not about to die off, especially if Blackberry keeps rolling out operating systems like the 10.

    Oh and btw... It took me forever to write this post on my Note Pro because I keep getting auto corrected or the keyboard keeps making mistakes. That never happens with my Q10.
    So yes, I really like my Note Pro, but when speed is of the essence, I use my Q10.

    And yes, do disagree, but have no fear: whatever I have to say is not going to threaten your devices, no one will take them away from you, lol.
    The most important thing when picking a device is what works best for you. One question I do have when you were on vacation in Utah did everyone have the same phone carrier? Because I always have great reception wherever I go even in the middle of nowhere

    Posted Via AT&T Galaxy Note 3
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    06-26-2014 10:49 AM
  15. vtpmt81's Avatar
    I agree instead of releasing the Passport they should of released a high end full touch screen device. As far as comparing any BlackBerry 10 device to the Note 3 in performance is just comical. I have used all BB10 devices and the Note 3 out preforms all of them

    Posted Via AT&T Galaxy Note 3
    One the main reasons people stay with BlackBerry is because of the QWERTY keyboards. I think the Passport is really innovative and I am excited to play with one. The Classic is just for all of the people that aren't letting go of their Bolds.

    I really like that BlackBerry is going after the low end touchscreen market with a solid 5” device in the Z3 - most good budget Android and Windows phones have smaller screens.
    However BlackBerry should have copied the Asus ZenPhone 5 and released the Z3 with a 720p screen instead of qHD.
    06-26-2014 10:51 AM
  16. Evilguppy's Avatar
    The most important thing when picking a device is what works best for you. One question I do have when you were on vacation in Utah did everyone have the same phone carrier? Because I always have great reception wherever I go even in the middle of nowhere

    Posted Via AT&T Galaxy Note 3
    AT&T had the worst connection over there, some people were on Verizon and did connect but they took longer than I did. (I'm on Verizon, they were using Androids and iPhones) A couple had T-Mobile or Sprint and couldn't connect either. My guess is Verizon is bigger in that part of Utah, in fact every town had a Verizon store but I didn't see AT&T stores.

    Like I said, I absolutely loved my Note 3... on Jellybean. I don't understand why it got so hammered by Kitkat, but it did, and the fact that the update was forced on me after I refused it every time I was prompted really ticked me off. I don't know which party is responsible for this, Google, Verizon or Samsung, but knowing that Blackberry doesn't force updates on their customers is a huge plus for me.
    06-26-2014 03:16 PM
  17. A895's Avatar
    AT&T had the worst connection over there, some people were on Verizon and did connect but they took longer than I did. (I'm on Verizon, they were using Androids and iPhones) A couple had T-Mobile or Sprint and couldn't connect either. My guess is Verizon is bigger in that part of Utah, in fact every town had a Verizon store but I didn't see AT&T stores.

    Like I said, I absolutely loved my Note 3... on Jellybean. I don't understand why it got so hammered by Kitkat, but it did, and the fact that the update was forced on me after I refused it every time I was prompted really ticked me off. I don't know which party is responsible for this, Google, Verizon or Samsung, but knowing that Blackberry doesn't force updates on their customers is a huge plus for me.
    Its a phone update, so of course it would be assumed, you would take it and not ignore it. People don't usually refuse phone updates especially when they bring enhancements to the device.

    Posted via Droid Razr M on the Android Central App
    06-26-2014 05:22 PM
  18. A895's Avatar
    I think the Passport is for all the consumers who prefer a QWERTY keyboard, corporate people, business people, people who prefer typing on a physical keyboard,etc.

    The Classic is for all those consumers who prefer the BlackBerry Tool Belt.

    Personally, I think the Passport is extremely good looking and sexy. I don't find the Classic the same, though. I think it looks normal. Not ugly, but doesn't stand out.


    If any android or iPhone users switch it's because of the above reasons. There may be other reasons as well. The resolution if the Passport it's way above and beyond, for example.

    Posted via Android Central App
    I would wonder deeply why exactly would an Android or iOS user would switch to either device.

    Posted via Droid Razr M on the Android Central App
    06-26-2014 07:14 PM
  19. Kilroy13's Avatar
    NSA can't hack into a blackberry as easy!
    06-26-2014 07:33 PM
  20. A895's Avatar
    NSA can't hack into a blackberry as easy!
    Yeah they can. BlackBerrys use their own private cellular network? No? Well, they are just as vulnerable as any other smartphone. Also BlackBerry 10 devices are only kind of more secure than other platforms is when they are connected to BES 10 which I doubt all of them are.

    Posted via Droid Razr M on the Android Central App
    06-26-2014 07:51 PM
  21. Evilguppy's Avatar
    Its a phone update, so of course it would be assumed, you would take it and not ignore it. People don't usually refuse phone updates especially when they bring enhancements to the device.

    Posted via Droid Razr M on the Android Central App
    I own the phone, I should be able to choose without being bossed around and tricked into it. (I woke up one morning to find the download in progress, I stopped it. I woke up the next morning to find Kitkat fully installed, there was nothing I could do. And their so called "enhancements" completely butchered my phone, the least they could do is offer me the possibility to undo the update and get back on Jellybean.)
    06-26-2014 08:10 PM
  22. A895's Avatar
    I own the phone, I should be able to choose without being bossed around and tricked into it. (I woke up one morning to find the download in progress, I stopped it. I woke up the next morning to find Kitkat fully installed, there was nothing I could do. And their so called "enhancements" completely butchered my phone, the least they could do is offer me the possibility to undo the update and get back on Jellybean.)
    How did they butcher the phone?

    Posted via Droid Razr M on the Android Central App
    06-26-2014 08:25 PM
  23. Evilguppy's Avatar
    How did they butcher the phone?

    Posted via Droid Razr M on the Android Central App
    After noticing decreasing battery life and serious lag in sending emails, I did the post update full factory reset.
    It didn't help, things kept getting from bad to worse.
    I went into settings, looked at my battery usage and found out that Kitkat was using 60% of my battery.
    It went worse. Eventually my battery went from 100% to 30% in less than 2 hours.
    I could no longer email pics, which is something I rely on a lot for work.
    Several apps no longer opened, new apps I had never installed suddenly installed themselves.
    My music playlists all disappeared and went I rebuilt them, they didn't stick, they were gone within the day.
    I did another factory reset, nothing changed.
    At that point, even though I much preferred staying with Verizon off contract, I decided to take their offer and get a new Blackberry Q10 free with a 2 year contract.

    I don't regret it.
    06-26-2014 10:14 PM
  24. A895's Avatar
    After noticing decreasing battery life and serious lag in sending emails, I did the post update full factory reset.
    It didn't help, things kept getting from bad to worse.
    I went into settings, looked at my battery usage and found out that Kitkat was using 60% of my battery.
    It went worse. Eventually my battery went from 100% to 30% in less than 2 hours.
    I could no longer email pics, which is something I rely on a lot for work.
    Several apps no longer opened, new apps I had never installed suddenly installed themselves.
    My music playlists all disappeared and went I rebuilt them, they didn't stick, they were gone within the day.
    I did another factory reset, nothing changed.
    At that point, even though I much preferred staying with Verizon off contract, I decided to take their offer and get a new Blackberry Q10 free with a 2 year contract.

    I don't regret it.
    Sounds bad, don't look like it but was all Googles fault.

    Posted via Droid Razr M on the Android Central App
    06-26-2014 10:50 PM
  25. Evilguppy's Avatar
    Sounds bad, don't look like it but was all Googles fault.

    Posted via Droid Razr M on the Android Central App
    I used to have similar issues with 3 Motorola Droids so I'm not sure the fault lies with Samsung but it's probably split on some level.
    06-27-2014 12:28 AM
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