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  1. Ry's Avatar
    Lenovo's sales, Motorola's might the key for the future of both, earnings report reveals Lenovo's sales, Motorola's might the key for the future of both, earnings report reveals | Android Central

    Posted via Android Central App (Moto X)
    08-12-2015 10:06 PM
  2. YankInDaSouth's Avatar
    08-14-2015 12:44 PM
  3. happasaiyan's Avatar
    Not in the least. These phones tick (almost) all the boxes for me. I need to support them and hope others do so they can succeed and keep making phones I like.

    Worst-case, I'll have to go back to the Nexus line.
    YankInDaSouth and Ry like this.
    08-14-2015 12:50 PM
  4. Aquila's Avatar
    The 2015? No. That devices is already done and has little to no Lenovo influence on it. The 2016 and beyond? We'll have to see what they do.
    YankInDaSouth and LeoRex like this.
    08-14-2015 12:54 PM
  5. LeoRex's Avatar
    Well, one of the things that regressed lately is speed up updates... while this shouldn't affect the 2015 Motos, it might impact how quickly those 2015 Motos get updated. They will all, presumably, be shipping with 5.1.1. But with them gutting the Motorola's software people, how soon will we get M?
    08-14-2015 12:58 PM
  6. YankInDaSouth's Avatar
    I share the same sentiments as you guys ... the only concern I have in regards to the 2015 X is this part of the article:
    "Other important cuts revealed to Phandroid are the software and services team, the folks who are largely responsible for all the Moto-bred features we love today. Moto Voice. Moto Display. Moto Assist. Etc — the people responsible for those are gone, and will be replaced by Lenovo engineers."

    I know it won't affect what's already in the 2015 X, just curious how it will affect future updates of these awesome apps! Hey, who knows, maybe some fresh brains on the case may improve upon them! I am willing to find out
    08-14-2015 12:59 PM
  7. Clocks's Avatar
    Lenovo is doubling down on it's bet that Motorola will be it's cell phone success (by eliminating their own mobile team). I think it sucks 500 people lost their jobs but it's good that Lenovo has resources and motivation to keep moto going. Whether fast updates and the US market are where it will focus is yet to be determined.
    08-14-2015 01:06 PM
  8. Aquila's Avatar
    Whether fast updates and the US market are where it will focus is yet to be determined.
    We have to assume that they're aware of just how updates are expected after their success with KK and the beginning of the L rollout.
    08-14-2015 01:17 PM
  9. slidesJ's Avatar
    So that article seems like a knee jerk reaction to the changes. If you follow a link in that article to one from the Chicago Tribune, it has this quote:

    Ramon Llamas, research manager for mobile phones and smartphones at Framingham, Mass.-based market intelligence firm IDC, said the cuts do not reflect a lack of confidence in Motorola Mobility but rather an overall desire by Lenovo to consolidate responsibilities and increase efficiency.

    Motorola Mobility’s market share held steady — about 2.4 percent globally and about 6 percent in the United States — from first quarter 2014 through first quarter 2015, which is the most recent data available, Llamas said.

    He added that the device maker’s recent strategy to deliver high-quality phones at low prices is a smart one, especially given the news that Verizon is eliminating subsidized phones and contracts.


    Not worried yet
    YankInDaSouth and Aquila like this.
    08-14-2015 02:20 PM
  10. DC Wuff's Avatar
    Well, one of the things that regressed lately is speed up updates... while this shouldn't affect the 2015 Motos, it might impact how quickly those 2015 Motos get updated. They will all, presumably, be shipping with 5.1.1. But with them gutting the Motorola's software people, how soon will we get M?
    After the unmitigated disaster (for me) that was the 5.0 update for the 2014 Moto X Pure Edition -- and especially given how well the phone once again performs after they took their time with the 5.1 update -- I am no longer concerned with Motorola rushing out the updates. I'd rather them take a little time and get it right. They'll still be faster than Samsung and HTC.
    Aquila likes this.
    08-14-2015 04:01 PM
  11. Rem3Dy's Avatar
    Well the 5.0 update problems were mostly Google's fault for the software not being 100% ready.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    08-14-2015 04:47 PM
  12. rebretz000's Avatar
    I swear I saw a press statement or something last week that said Motorola was no longer going to guarantee OS updates like they had with the previous Moto X versions. If phone "A" is running well on system "2" and the process of updating the phone to system "3" was more time consuming than they deemed worthy it would stay on "2".
    I can not find it now.
    08-14-2015 04:49 PM
  13. Aquila's Avatar
    I swear I saw a press statement or something last week that said Motorola was no longer going to guarantee OS updates like they had with the previous Moto X versions. If phone "A" is running well on system "2" and the process of updating the phone to system "3" was more time consuming than they deemed worthy it would stay on "2".
    I can not find it now.
    That statement would be a ship sinker.
    08-14-2015 05:48 PM
  14. Clocks's Avatar
    That statement would be a ship sinker.
    At the 2015 x press showing the Moto software guy said they were committed to fast updates, but not at the expense of the consumer. 5.0 was a disaster and moto won't push another update that bad should Google release another.
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    08-14-2015 06:02 PM
  15. Aquila's Avatar
    At the 2015 x press showing the Moto software guy said they were committed to fast updates, but not at the expense of the consumer. 5.0 was a disaster and moto won't push another update that bad should Google release another.
    Right, that makes sense ... but publicly stating you're going to weigh support effort vs cost vs return (obviously you are, but don't say it) is going to make even the hardest of fanboys bounce to another company.
    rebretz000 likes this.
    08-14-2015 06:06 PM
  16. rebretz000's Avatar
    I am definitely having to reconsider buying the Moto X Pure/Style. I was already to buy 3. Even bought SD Cards for them already but now with all this shakeup and the update thing I'll go Nexus 5 (2015), maybe a new Nexus 6 depending on the size.
    08-14-2015 06:18 PM
  17. Cakefish's Avatar
    I am definitely having to reconsider buying the Moto X Pure/Style. I was already to buy 3. Even bought SD Cards for them already but now with all this shakeup and the update thing I'll go Nexus 5 (2015), maybe a new Nexus 6 depending on the size.
    Nexus phones traditionally don't have SD card support. Just in case, you aren't already aware.
    08-14-2015 06:20 PM
  18. Clocks's Avatar
    Right, that makes sense ... but publicly stating you're going to weigh support effort vs cost vs return (obviously you are, but don't say it) is going to make even the hardest of fanboys bounce to another company.
    I hear you. The only other real comparison is the nexus. But you'll never have quality open source camera image processing which is always the nexus' Achilles heel.

    I thought about it seriously after hearing the news and have decided to give the new x a shot. If the m rollout is a disaster then the nexus will still be there. I also used m on my nexus 6 and it's really a tiny change vs 5.1 so it won't be like waiting and being stuck on 4.4 was last time around for so many devices.
    Aquila likes this.
    08-14-2015 06:46 PM
  19. Evilnut's Avatar
    I'm not sure why everyone thinks this so-called shake up it's going to be having a negative effect on the Motorola phones. Lenovo purchased Motorola to make them the single manufacture for their smartphones. Motorola is doing positive things and showing positive growth. I believe Lenovo sees that and is going to continue on the same path. Maybe the physical design of the phone may change a bit going forward, but I truly believe Lenovo is going to let the current path that Motorola is on with their software continue going forward. They are going to have to prove me wrong before I think any different and consider not buying a Motorola phone.

    Posted via Android Central App from a beautiful Ebony backed Original Moto X or the amazing Nexus 10
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    08-14-2015 07:09 PM
  20. Cakefish's Avatar
    Everyone seems to be panicking and assuming that this is the end of virtually stock Android on Motorola phones. I don't get that impression at all.
    08-14-2015 07:54 PM
  21. getbretweir's Avatar
    no
    YankInDaSouth likes this.
    08-15-2015 02:31 AM
  22. jimbo1mcm's Avatar
    Probably a sound business move on Lenovo's part, but strange that they would announce this stuff right before an important phone launch. Yeah it's going to say,"Motorola" on the phone, but it is going to be a Chinese managed and manufactured phone.
    08-15-2015 02:34 AM
  23. getbretweir's Avatar
    I share the same sentiments as you guys ... the only concern I have in regards to the 2015 X is this part of the article:
    "Other important cuts revealed to Phandroid are the software and services team, the folks who are largely responsible for all the Moto-bred features we love today. Moto Voice. Moto Display. Moto Assist. Etc — the people responsible for those are gone, and will be replaced by Lenovo engineers."

    I know it won't affect what's already in the 2015 X, just curious how it will affect future updates of these awesome apps! Hey, who knows, maybe some fresh brains on the case may improve upon them! I am willing to find out
    "fresh brains on the case may improve upon them!" ... that's the only thing that concerns me. too often we see people feel like they need to justify their paycheck, which very well might be true, and they mess around with a good thing.

    even the smallest changes to their subtle features can mess it all up. hopefully they'll just leave it alone (which we all know they won't) cause IMO it's perfect as is.
    YankInDaSouth likes this.
    08-15-2015 02:36 AM
  24. getbretweir's Avatar
    So that article seems like a knee jerk reaction to the changes. If you follow a link in that article to one from the Chicago Tribune, it has this quote:

    Ramon Llamas, research manager for mobile phones and smartphones at Framingham, Mass.-based market intelligence firm IDC, said the cuts do not reflect a lack of confidence in Motorola Mobility but rather an overall desire by Lenovo to consolidate responsibilities and increase efficiency.

    Motorola Mobility’s market share held steady — about 2.4 percent globally and about 6 percent in the United States — from first quarter 2014 through first quarter 2015, which is the most recent data available, Llamas said.

    He added that the device maker’s recent strategy to deliver high-quality phones at low prices is a smart one, especially given the news that Verizon is eliminating subsidized phones and contracts.


    Not worried yet
    no coincidence Moto's distribution strategy coincided with Verizon's announcement. they were obviously privy to that information.

    Llamas' quote reminded me of Bob and Bob from Office Space!
    08-15-2015 02:40 AM
  25. rebretz000's Avatar
    I'm just worried Lenovo will turn Motorola into another iPhone clone just like most other Chinese manufactures.
    08-15-2015 06:44 AM
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