1. cardboard60's Avatar
    Would google write software to help carriers lock you into their service?

    If you bought and paid for a phone.
    Why shouldn't you be able to take the phone anywhere.

    https://www.xda-developers.com/andro...m-lock-phones/
    05-09-2019 08:46 AM
  2. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    Looks to me like it's a restriction for support of multi SIM phones. If one carrier can't support it, for whatever reason they can lock it out.
    05-09-2019 09:08 AM
  3. SpookDroid's Avatar
    That's why they still offer unlocked models. Carrier-branded versions are carrier-supported, so yeah, they'll write stuff to help carriers keep supporting Google phones (especially now that it's no longer a Verizon exclusive). Now, why do carriers keep doing that? Because people still buy them from carriers instead of unlocked most of the time. You gotta cater to all available markets, and the carrier one is still super strong.
    05-09-2019 09:09 AM
  4. cardboard60's Avatar
    If the phone is bought and paid for even though it came from a carrier.
    It should be your phone. Not the carriers phone.
    So they shouldn't be able to lock you into their service.

    Just my though.
    Thought the FCC said something about this a few years ago.
    05-09-2019 09:19 AM
  5. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    That's why they still offer unlocked models. Carrier-branded versions are carrier-supported, so yeah, they'll write stuff to help carriers keep supporting Google phones (especially now that it's no longer a Verizon exclusive). Now, why do carriers keep doing that? Because people still buy them from carriers instead of unlocked most of the time. You gotta cater to all available markets, and the carrier one is still super strong.
    I'm personally not big on the carrier model either, but most people probably don't know that most phones they can buy outside of a carrier will work well for the most part. The upside to buying a carrier phone is it is fully supported by the network.
    05-09-2019 09:19 AM
  6. Mooncatt's Avatar
    Carriers often have proprietary software that gives carrier specific functions that won't work with other carriers. It's like owning a Dodge but going to a Chevy dealer for service. The Chevy dealer may be able to do basic stuff like an oil change, but you can't expect them to do something like an engine overhaul because they don't stock Dodge parts.

    Unlocked phones may not be fully compatible on a given carrier (I.e. WiFi calling is a common issue with unlocked phones). Those may not be important to you, but to many they are. Just pick the phone that best suits your needs and don't worry much about it.
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    05-09-2019 09:31 AM
  7. hallux's Avatar
    Thought the FCC said something about this a few years ago.
    Kind of, as it related to one carrier. When Verizon acquired a segment of spectrum for new capabilities one of the stipulations was that all phones sold for a certain period of time MUST be sold as unlocked. I believe that period of time ran out earlier this year.
    05-09-2019 02:32 PM
  8. cardboard60's Avatar
    Sent the info to a friend who bought a At&t note 9 with a dual SIM.
    They sold him the dual SIM specifically with the ability to use the dual SIM on different carriers.
    So if they lock one of his SIMs
    He said he wants all his money back

    His wife was with him when he bought the phone.
    Said his wife was a paralegal before she retired a couple months ago.
    05-09-2019 02:52 PM
  9. Tsepz_GP's Avatar
    The more things like this happen, the more I believe in simply buying your phone unlocked and then using prepaid SIM of your chosen network or a plan that doesn't come with a phone.
    05-09-2019 03:07 PM
  10. Rukbat's Avatar
    You buy an unlocked phone that can work on your carrier of choice. (Assuming that our carrier locks their phones and won't unlock them). If you're paying $45/month for a $1,00 phone, it's still the crrier's phone for 2 years. After that, most carriers will unlock the phone.

    The thing I don't happen to be personally thrilled with is carriers (or manufacturers) locking the bootloader so it can't be unlocked. No kernels, no ROMs, no rooting, and unless the carrier changes the ROM during an update, you're stuck with almost an iPhone (but worse - an iPhone can be rooted).
    05-09-2019 03:21 PM
  11. kct1975's Avatar
    Would google write software to help carriers lock you into their service?

    If you bought and paid for a phone.
    Why shouldn't you be able to take the phone anywhere.

    https://www.xda-developers.com/andro...m-lock-phones/
    I know that a lot of unlocked phones are set to automatically download Carrier software when when a particular Carrier Sim Card is installed and activated.

    I hope that this Carrier Lock software doesn't get downloaded on my Unlocked S10 + phone when I insert the Sprint SIM card in my phone.
    05-10-2019 09:48 PM
  12. Stanley Kubrick's Avatar
    Bottom line...carriers make way more money selling you their service than they do selling you any phone. They are "carriers" after all.
    kct1975 likes this.
    05-20-2019 11:11 AM
  13. cardboard60's Avatar
    Bottom line...carriers make way more money selling you their service than they do selling you any phone. They are "carriers" after all.
    Then why don't the carriers sell unlocked phones.
    05-20-2019 01:18 PM
  14. hallux's Avatar
    Then why don't the carriers sell unlocked phones.
    If they sold you an unlocked phone there's no assurance you'd continue using it on their service.
    kct1975 likes this.
    05-21-2019 05:03 AM

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