08-13-2013 09:09 PM
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  1. elvisgp's Avatar
    I've had my nexus 10 for about 3 months now, and I really love it so far. Recently, my friend who is an admitted Apple fanboy was telling me how much he loves his Ipad 4, and that the apps are so much better than on android. He showed me garage band, badlands, and infinity blade; all apps that aren't on android. This really got me thinking, are the apps really that much better on IOS? Should I have really gotten an iPad? The answer is no for me. I realized that all of the apps that I use are all optimized for tablets, and that the game, badlands is possibly coming to android anyway. I really didn't care about garage band, although a cool app, I probably wouldn't use often. I looked at both the top apps on the iPad and on the Play store, and found that they are relatively similar, with Apple only having a few exclusive tablet apps that are really nice, such as paper.

    Now for performance, the Nexus 10 is often claimed to be a laggy mess by others, and while it has its moments, it is a relatively smooth experience all around. While using the iPad, I realized that no device is absolutely lag free. The iPad 3, lagged in the app store quite a lot. The lag wasn't horrible by any means, but there were just a few stutters here and there. I also saw lag in safari, while browsing android central in fact, although safari is still much smoother than chrome. Overall though the iPad isn't that much smoother than the nexus 10, and I'm hoping that the 4.3 update will make the nexus 10 faster and more stable though.

    I'm relatively happy with my nexus 10 purchase, and I don't regret choosing it over the iPad, although that's just me. So I ask you readers, would you have rather gotten an iPad or surface?
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    07-24-2013 10:11 PM
  2. crxssi's Avatar
    So I ask you readers, would you have rather gotten an iPad or surface?
    You must be kidding. Of course not.

    And a Surface? What is that?? Never actually seen one before... did ANYONE buy one?
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    07-24-2013 10:14 PM
  3. rootedVette's Avatar
    I've had my N10 for a couple months now, and I'm completely satisfied. For me, though, it was a no brainer. I am already committed to the Google ecosystem, and I'm a crackflasher on my phones. (although I still haven't even rooted my N10)

    Posted via Android Central App on Manta Ray
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    07-24-2013 10:16 PM
  4. still1's Avatar
    no, never!!! so happy with N10
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    07-24-2013 11:56 PM
  5. Pollster's Avatar
    I have all three, but only really use the Nexus. Not out of fanboyism, it's just the device that looks, acts, and has what I want.
    07-25-2013 08:23 AM
  6. Struman160's Avatar
    I just exchanged my Asus Infinity for a N10. Huge difference. The Infinity was a dog. Had all the bells and whistels but was laggy and slow at times. My N10 is blazing fast. Playing Vice City on my Infinity was frustrating. It should have run like butter but I had to lower settings to get playable FPS. The N10 runs max settings without a hitch. Just as Smooth as my Gaming PC used to run it. Netflix loads much faster and I have not seen a buffering circle yet. Got those alot with Infinity. Other than the attaching keyboard and external SD slot, Infinity has nothing on my N10. Very happy so far
    07-25-2013 10:01 AM
  7. Devlyn16's Avatar
    no regrets here. Any fan boy can tell you the Apps/games/music/etc are better on their system. The reality is you find apps on one that never appear on the other, widgets for one that never appear on the other ETC.

    I did the research before I bought and made my decision based on my needs, not what any fanboy told me my needs were supposed to be. That is the KEY to being happy with ANY device.
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    07-25-2013 11:22 AM
  8. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    Never, ever. Especially not an iPad. And honestly the apps aren't better on iOS, both app stores are pretty much the same overall there's just a few apps that some people will swear by that are in one store but not the other but those are just anecdotes.

    Posted via Android Central App
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    07-25-2013 11:26 AM
  9. CoMoNexus's Avatar
    I've got an N4. I was considering an N10 to replace my iPad 1 but probably will hold out for the N11 or whatever it's called. At this stage of the Android-vs.-iOS war, I don't see a reason to pay a hefty premium for an iPad. Yes, the battery life is better, but I don't need a tablet for eight or 10 hours straight. I use a tablet for a few hours in the evening, so two or three evenings between charges is fine.

    As for apps, when I got the iPad, I thought, as many people did: "Wow! How cool is it to have that many apps for everything?" But after the first year or so, I uninstalled most of those apps because I realized I was using only a dozen or so on a regular basis. The vast majority of my time was spent with the browser, email, YouTube and Pandora apps, as well as one for my ham radio hobby. So for me, an OS's app selection is almost a non-factor when it comes to the purchasing decision, though not to the point that I would consider an orphan such as Surface.

    Instead, I'm more focused on specs, particularly the RAM. My iPad 1 still has great battery life, a pristine screen and no dents. But it lacks the RAM to be able to use more than one tab in Chrome or Safari and frequently crashes with just one going. That's part of the reason why I'm holding out for the N11: hopefully to get a RAM bump that will buy it another year or two of useful life.
    07-26-2013 07:53 AM
  10. codeda's Avatar
    I've had a nexus 10 for about 6 months now and I still love it! I plan on keeping it until it craps out on me ( which would be a first. I usually trade or sell all my tablets within the first few months). no regrets here.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using AC Forums mobile app
    07-26-2013 08:05 AM
  11. Fr0gburp3r's Avatar
    I've had my N10 for 4 months now. It was nice customizing at the beginning but that got old. When Real Racing 3 was launched, I couldn't wait to download and play it. I was sooooo disappointed. Graphics and frame rate doesn't even come close to the latest iPad or iPhone. Even after the last update, it still doesn't compare. I guess the devs haven't designed it to take advantage of the high resolution of the N10. Can the hardware even support the max resolution at a smooth frame rate? RR3 is better on my S4.
    07-26-2013 08:48 AM
  12. Allen Salyer's Avatar
    Love mine. Use it all day in my Simi truck for music then play games, stream, surf couple hours at night still have 15 20 percent batt. I am totally in the Google system with phone's and 2 n7s for kids . so I don't know if I am missing out or not on that but I do know there are plenty of apps and games for me and mine.
    07-27-2013 05:40 AM
  13. TgeekB's Avatar
    Bought mine a couple months ago and am completely satisfied. Has everything I need and staying within the Google ecosystem.
    07-27-2013 09:14 AM
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    07-27-2013 09:16 AM
  15. Fr0gburp3r's Avatar
    They are comparing the iPad to all other platforms and manufacturers? lol I thought those numbers would be a lot closer. Those numbers will change when the retina iPad mini and iOS 7 is released. What Android needs are more apps designed for tablets like Apple has done. Use the extra screen realestate for additional features that the phones can't support. That definitely would improve my N10 experience.
    07-27-2013 12:06 PM
  16. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    They are comparing the iPad to all other platforms and manufacturers? lol I thought those numbers would be a lot closer. Those numbers will change when the retina iPad mini and iOS 7 is released. What Android needs are more apps designed for tablets like Apple has done. Use the extra screen realestate for additional features that the phones can't support. That definitely would improve my N10 experience.
    Haha no they don't. Android is designed so that it doesn't need tablet-optimized apps with a few exceptions of course.

    Posted via Android Central App
    07-27-2013 01:37 PM
  17. Fr0gburp3r's Avatar
    Haha no they don't. Android is designed so that it doesn't need tablet-optimized apps with a few exceptions of course.

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    Really? So what your saying is, it's good enough to have the same exact experience on an Android tablet that you get with an Android phone but on a larger display? No wonder Android devs don't give a crap about making a better experience for tablets. All Android is doing is either making things bigger or spreading the app content to fit the display and not actually adding functionality/options. IMO, that sucks. :rolleyes:

    Why don't they utilize the extra realestate that tablets have to improve the apps specifically for tablets?
    07-27-2013 01:48 PM
  18. crxssi's Avatar
    Really? So what your saying is, it's good enough to have the same exact experience on an Android tablet that you get with an Android phone but on a larger display? No wonder Android devs don't give a crap about making a better experience for tablets. All Android is doing is either making things bigger or spreading the app content to fit the display and not actually adding functionality/options. IMO, that sucks. :rolleyes:

    Why don't they utilize the extra realestate that tablets have to improve the apps specifically for tablets?
    You are generalizing.

    There is no need for a "tablet specific" app in Android. The API allows the app to be aware of the type of device and adjust the display around accordingly. That can include increasing the resolution, adding sections, putting more text in buttons, moving controls around, anything the developer wants to do. Has nothing to do with Android and everything to do with the developer. If you need that illustrated, then load the Android IMDB app on multiple types of devices and observe what correct programming does with a single app.

    Are there many crappy apps out there? Yes. And with a marketplace as huge as Play, you will find just about everything across the spectrum for quality. Same goes for the Apple App store.
    07-27-2013 02:19 PM
  19. Fr0gburp3r's Avatar
    I'm sorry, I meant to refer to the devs when I mentioned a better tablet experience. Maybe it's just the apps I'm using on my N10. They seem to be the same on my S4.
    07-27-2013 03:57 PM
  20. crxssi's Avatar
    I'm sorry, I meant to refer to the devs when I mentioned a better tablet experience. Maybe it's just the apps I'm using on my N10. They seem to be the same on my S4.
    I have some crappy apps that don't even scale at all, much less reformat. But others are much better. Although I will point to developers as being the main cause, I do fault Google some for not providing some better search options in Play. World's greatest search company, with the most used tablet and phone OS and largest app store, yet we are not allowed to search and filter by cost, date updated, release date, installations, size, device, total score, recent score, installations, etc. It is a huge shame. It is as if they don't want us to be able to find what we want in over a million apps.
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    07-27-2013 04:58 PM
  21. Racso14's Avatar
    Had the opportunity to play with an iPhone for about a week as my mom visited for that time. I will say that many of the issues I had may have been due to being used to one ecosystem over the other, but I really did actually play with the phone with the intent of finding things I liked with it (with the intent of downloading the android app that would make my phone behave the same way). The reason I am posting this here is because this seems more of an ecosystem comparison as opposed to a tablet comparison. Here is what comes to mind:

    -Connecting to WiFi: I will admit that I don't have the most experience with iOS, but it seemed like it took me longer than I would have expected to do this. It just didn't seem as user friendly to do this as I would have expected.

    -Siri vs Google: since I absolutely love Google Now, I just had to compare the two. On some basic stuff that I knew what responds I was looking for, but wanted to see how each device tested, it was a split. However I did do one test where Google totally won; I asked for directions to a restaurant where there used to be 2 locations, but one has now closed. Siri wanted to take me to the closer location (but also gave me the option of the second location), which would be fine if it weren't the closed location, whereas Google only gave me the open location's address.

    -App Icons: I love the icon drawer on android. Only have the apps you want on the home screens. Perhaps I didn't play with it long enough, but I couldn't figure out how to hide icons on the iPhone, other than putting them all in one folder.

    -Widgets: do I need to go into this?

    -Home Button: I understand Apple's idea behind the simple one button principle, and I imagine if I used iOS I would be used to it, but I actually prefer the three buttons for Android. I also like how they can move for landscape too.

    -Camera: My mom uses her iPhone as her main camera (always around grandchildren, doesn't want to always have to carry phone plus camera since moments happen at any time) and her best pictures were OK at best. She even said our phones (moto RAZR Ms) took better pictures (something the RAZR M got low marks for). Next time I see her I am going to see if I can improve her camera because it is very important.

    Now since I want to be fair, here are some things I liked better than Android:

    -Battery % Display: This is such a tiny thing that most don't notice it, but I liked being able to have the battery % at the top right. I know Android has widgets and 4.2 has the second menu thing, but I just want to see a number without having to search.

    -Build: The iPhone just felt solid. I can't think of an out-of-industry example, but it felt like the industrial version of a normal consumer thing. I don't like how the back has glass (I doubt I would ever buy an android with a glass back), but the rest of it I liked. I will say though, all the side buttons felt very solid and took effort to push (I liked that) but the home button felt completely different. Is this normal? It felt out of place, like someone took parts from one manufacturer for the side buttons, then someone else made the home button.

    -Smoothness of the OS: The system worked very well. Actions did what I told them to do, and every flowed very smooth and rarely had lag. I will say though my tablet and phone run just as smooth at times, but in the time I played with the iPhone I did not experience it.



    Overall my experience with the iPhone furthered my love for Android. Android does what I want it to do. The whole more apps thing goes over my head (to me it is like a car manufacturer saying we have more models than the competition why do I care how many models you have if I'm just looking for a compact car?) Same with the more tablet optimized apps if the apps I care about and use are optimized or work just fine on a tablet, again with the car thing, why care about the products I don't need?

    I think what the whole OS thing comes down to is what you are used to and what you have. If you have an iPhone, get an iPad, if you have an Android phone, and an Android tablet.

    The one place I see possibly growing are the Windows tablets. I just see them being easier integrations with PCs which would be good for businesses. I know at my job (like most likely around 95% + of offices) has a ton of PCs. If I had a tablet I could super easily work with just like my PC to take to meetings or presentations, it would be great. I know iPads and Android tablets can, but I imagine it would be easier to integrate a windows device with another windows device (however now that almost everything is be coming cloud based that is more and more becoming a moot point).

    TL: DR I love my nexus 10 even after being exposed to iOS.
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    07-27-2013 08:03 PM
  22. carloscolon66's Avatar
    Not for a minute. Especially since I got mine at Sam's Club for $299 for the 32Gb version. Rooted it, installed CM 10.1.1, then went stock with Android 4.3. Completely satisfied with the tablet.
    07-27-2013 11:05 PM
  23. CoMoNexus's Avatar
    The API allows the app to be aware of the type of device and adjust the display around accordingly. That can include increasing the resolution, adding sections, putting more text in buttons, moving controls around, anything the developer wants to do. Has nothing to do with Android and everything to do with the developer.
    Right. When the developer believes that it can provide tablet users with a better UX by adding features that aren't practical on a phone screen, it will do so. That's the tablet-specific version of its app.
    07-28-2013 09:06 AM
  24. Shilohcane's Avatar
    I'm sorry, I meant to refer to the devs when I mentioned a better tablet experience. Maybe it's just the apps I'm using on my N10. They seem to be the same on my S4.
    Why does Apple charge so much more money for the same App? BTW, This is what he was saying on scaling many times I just don't care as long as the App works but price is an issue for me since I hated to be ripped off. Check out this line from this story;

    After all, why do they need a tablet section when all Android apps scale usually very well between different sizes of screens on phones and tablets? And why risk the ridicule of a small number of apps if they ever create such a section and only few developers submit apps to it?
    Weekly Poll: Do You Prefer Tablet-Optimized Apps? | Android.AppStorm
    07-28-2013 02:20 PM
  25. anon5664829's Avatar
    Why does Apple charge so much more money for the same App? BTW, This is what he was saying on scaling many times I just don't care as long as the App works but price is an issue for me since I hated to be ripped off. Check out this line from this story;

    A. Apple does not charge extra the app developers do.
    B. You must have really low standards then.

    Weekly Poll: Do You Prefer Tablet-Optimized Apps? | Android.AppStorm
    A. Apple does not charge extra the app developers do.
    B. You must have really low standards then.
    C. That's on an Android website of course there is natural bias.

    I am much happier with my iPad 4 then Nexus 10. I am happy I got my iPad back.
    07-28-2013 05:05 PM
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