I thought The Crackberry forum was full of whiny children, well, now that I'm waiting on my Nexus 4 16 GB, My first Android phone, well let me tell you, the posts here in N4, well, I've never heard such whiny crap in my life! In my opinion too many aren't mature enough to carry a fine device such as the Nexus 4. Maybe you youngsters should settle on the Motorola DEFY XT if you can't handle a refined device.