10-09-2013 09:21 AM
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  1. DrewDT's Avatar
    I for one am a bit disappointed when I read the compromises Google is making to keep the price of the Nexus 5 down. 8 mp camera vs the 13 mp camera on the LG G2 this phone is supposed to be based upon. Also, the battery will be 2300 mah sealed! I was ready to leave Verizon for this device but I may have to rethink things. I wish Google would have a lite version of the Nexus 5 and one without glaring compromises.
    Are any of these or other things deal-breakers to you?
    More Nexus 5 details emerge, camera takes one for the team again | Android | Geek.com
    09-30-2013 06:19 PM
  2. Aquila's Avatar
    I think we've learned that more mp doesn't necessarily reflect quality, especially in camera phones. Example, 10 mp on the moto x prior to the software update vs 4 on the HTC one vs 8 on the iPhone 5. In that case it was clearly 8 > 4 > 10, with most of the differences being entirely reliant on software.

    XT1060. Through spacetime.
    09-30-2013 06:24 PM
  3. Ryandroid86's Avatar
    I for one am a bit disappointed when I read the compromises Google is making to keep the price of the Nexus 5 down. 8 mp camera vs the 13 mp camera on the LG G2 this phone is supposed to be based upon. Also, the battery will be 2300 mah sealed! I was ready to leave Verizon for this device but I may have to rethink things. I wish Google would have a lite version of the Nexus 5 and one without glaring compromises.
    Are any of these or other things deal-breakers to you?
    More Nexus 5 details emerge, camera takes one for the team again | Android | Geek.com
    These are not deal breakers......
    The Nexus 4 had a smaller battery, Yet I got a full day use out of it... And thats all I require.
    Plus Nexus software doesnt compare to any others. Im sure the software will weigh-out the camera.
    (if you want a good camera.... go buy an actual camera)
    09-30-2013 06:26 PM
  4. Ry's Avatar
    I for one am a bit disappointed when I read the compromises Google is making to keep the price of the Nexus 5 down. 8 mp camera vs the 13 mp camera on the LG G2 this phone is supposed to be based upon. Also, the battery will be 2300 mah sealed! I was ready to leave Verizon for this device but I may have to rethink things. I wish Google would have a lite version of the Nexus 5 and one without glaring compromises.
    Are any of these or other things deal-breakers to you?
    More Nexus 5 details emerge, camera takes one for the team again | Android | Geek.com
    Maybe you should hold out for an LG G2 GPe.
    09-30-2013 06:28 PM
  5. DrewDT's Avatar
    This is true and I am not necessarily swayed too much about the camera, but it gives me some pause to wait a while to see reviews on it's performance. The battery is a bigger cause for concern to me, being sealed and with reduced capacity.

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    09-30-2013 06:28 PM
  6. Aquila's Avatar
    I'd definitely be in favor of seeing some photos before making any judgments about the camera. Megapixel math: 8 (iphone) > 13 (S4) > 4 (One) > 10 (moto x) > 8 (Nexus) results in 8 being greater than 8 by a LONG ways.

    As for the battery, the Nexus has a slightly smaller screen (perhaps some power savings), but most importantly it has MUCH cleaner software and a newer version of Android. Battery life is another thing that seems unrelated (past a certain obvious point) with battery size, without taking into consideration what is being powered, how often, etc. On this issue too, I think software will trump numbers on paper and deserve real world reviews rather than an immediate write off.


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    09-30-2013 06:39 PM
  7. moosc's Avatar
    And don't forget the s800 to b underclocked to 1.9ghz

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    09-30-2013 06:41 PM
  8. DrewDT's Avatar
    Good points made on battery life on pure Android I am looking forward to seeing real world results.

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    09-30-2013 06:42 PM
  9. gone down south's Avatar
    I think we've learned that more mp doesn't necessarily reflect quality, especially in camera phones. Example, 10 mp on the moto x prior to the software update vs 4 on the HTC one vs 8 on the iPhone 5. In that case it was clearly 8 > 4 > 10, with most of the differences being entirely reliant on software.

    XT1060. Through spacetime.
    The issue is that Google is downgrading to save costs. It's not likely that they ditch a13mp camera in favor of a BETTER 8mp one

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    09-30-2013 06:50 PM
  10. Ryandroid86's Avatar
    I'd definitely be in favor of seeing some photos before making any judgments about the camera. Megapixel math: 8 (iphone) > 13 (S4) > 4 (One) > 10 (moto x) > 8 (Nexus) results in 8 being greater than 8 by a LONG ways.

    As for the battery, the Nexus has a slightly smaller screen (perhaps some power savings), but most importantly it has MUCH cleaner software and a newer version of Android. Battery life is another thing that seems unrelated (past a certain obvious point) with battery size, without taking into consideration what is being powered, how often, etc. On this issue too, I think software will trump numbers on paper and deserve real world reviews rather than an immediate write off.


    Couldnt agree more. This will be an amazing phone regardless of specs on paper. Just like the Moto X who people seem to love. Its the experience that Google is slowly perfecting. Plus even the moto X has amazing battery life with a 2200 mAh battery. I have seen it first hand.
    09-30-2013 06:57 PM
  11. bunique4life05's Avatar
    The battery size is a big compromise for me. The Nexus running 800 underclocked with stock android doesn't seem to be enough to great battery life out 2300. I am sure Nexus 5 will be better than it's predecessors but don't see it much better than the average.

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    09-30-2013 07:14 PM
  12. bunique4life05's Avatar
    Couldnt agree more. This will be an amazing phone regardless of specs on paper. Just like the Moto X who people seem to love. Its the experience that Google is slowly perfecting. Plus even the moto X has amazing battery life with a 2200 mAh battery. I have seen it first hand.
    Mix battery life on the moto x
    Two different processors hard to say one will reflect the other.

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    09-30-2013 07:15 PM
  13. Aquila's Avatar
    Mix battery life on the moto x
    Two different processors hard to say one will reflect the other.

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    I'd agree. My x is a very different animal than anything I've had before. While I believe Google will have some major takeaways from the x, I'm not expecting a direct convergence, but a gradual process of similar evolution.

    XT1060. Through spacetime.
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    09-30-2013 07:21 PM
  14. bunique4life05's Avatar
    I'd agree. My x is a very different animal than anything I've had before. While I believe Google will have some major takeaways from the x, I'm not expecting a direct convergence, but a gradual process of similar evolution.

    XT1060. Through spacetime.
    We can only hope.

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    09-30-2013 09:30 PM
  15. DrewDT's Avatar
    Personally, I've been hoping for a Nexus that takes a departure from competing by finding ways to keep the price relatively cheap.
    I'd like to see a comparably priced Nexus to phones like the g4 and iPhone 5s that would really wow us not just by being a good bang for the buck option, but by giving us Google's vision of what the Android experience can really be in a no holds barred phone.
    I'm sure this phone will have its merits, especially at the price point it will be offered. I will take my time in deciding whether or not to get it by reading the reviews from early adopters.

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    10-01-2013 06:56 AM
  16. Aquila's Avatar
    Personally, I've been hoping for a Nexus that takes a departure from competing by finding ways to keep the price relatively cheap.
    I'd like to see a comparably priced Nexus to phones like the g4 and iPhone 5s that would really wow us not just by being a good bang for the buck option, but by giving us Google's vision of what the Android experience can really be in a no holds barred phone.
    I'm sure this phone will have its merits, especially at the price point it will be offered. I will take my time in deciding whether or not to get it by reading the reviews from early adopters.

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    Well, every nexus to date has been the top device in its niche market on release date, and obviously the best value, but they don't tend to blow the market away on the spec sheet, but rather just match and one up the competition. From what we have leaked so far, it looks like they'll repeat that patten this time as well.

    A nexus without carrier promotion, distribution and with a higher price tag severely limits the possible sales and makes it out of reach of some of the intended developer and tinkerer markets. Sales on such a device would likely be similar to the GPe devices.

    As is, we're still getting a device that costs as much to make and sell as the other flagships, we just have a weird price because Google is eating the subsidy and no carriers are cut in off the top.

    XT1060. Through spacetime.
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    10-01-2013 07:04 AM
  17. DrewDT's Avatar
    NothingisTrue, thank you for your insightful answers. I know it's premature to make any judgements prior to the device hitting the market. I just want the Nexus platform to be the standard which every other phone with their version of the Android OS to be compared to.
    I for one only upgrade phones every two years, so the sealed battery thing does concern me. My last two phones (Motorola Bionic, BlackBerry Tour), developed issues that were resolved with a new battery.

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    10-01-2013 09:05 AM
  18. MG386's Avatar
    And don't forget the s800 to b underclocked to 1.9ghz

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    I haven't seen this anywhere, where did you get this info?

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    10-01-2013 09:46 AM
  19. NoYankees44's Avatar
    Everyone forgets that the nexus has a history of being a dev phone. In other words, it is meant to be cheap hardware for devs. Not for general consumers to have a better than everything else phone. If the compromises dont appeal to you, then you are not the target audiance and should move on.

    Plus everyone would just complain about the price if it were better than everything else and not any cheaper. Everyone seems to have this attitude that Google has to give all their stuff away for some reason.

    I would personally love a nexus devise that makes no compromises and has a premium price tag. Thus far, Google has shown no signs of doing this. I guess GPe phones are supposed to fill in this gap.
    10-01-2013 10:18 AM
  20. swebb's Avatar
    Everyone forgets that the nexus has a history of being a dev phone. In other words, it is meant to be cheap hardware for devs
    I think this was more true for the first two Nexus phones. Starting with the GNex there was a concerted effort to bring this to the masses, and the N4 was certainly a phone meant for more than developers. Now any Nexus device will be dev friendly because of unadulterated Android OS. But this is first and foremost a value phone with top (but not quite cutting edge) hardware, sim unlocked, at an affordable price.
    10-01-2013 11:42 AM
  21. Pollster's Avatar
    The Nexus is supposed to show off what can be done with the newest Android, not hardware. On a Nexus, advanced Android gets optimized to generic hardware, not the other way around.
    It's up to manufacturers to take that example and spin it off into something that smokes.
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    10-01-2013 12:07 PM
  22. Ry's Avatar
    I think this was more true for the first two Nexus phones. Starting with the GNex there was a concerted effort to bring this to the masses, and the N4 was certainly a phone meant for more than developers. Now any Nexus device will be dev friendly because of unadulterated Android OS. But this is first and foremost a value phone with top (but not quite cutting edge) hardware, sim unlocked, at an affordable price.
    I'm assuming you mean app developers, not ROM developers.
    10-01-2013 12:20 PM
  23. Pollster's Avatar
    No. Manufacturers. Google shows everyone how to optimize stock Android to generic hardware and then it's up to Samsung, Motorola, LG, HTC, etc to try to outdo them. Funny how none of those companies can even keep up. They almost all focus on the hardware and figure they don't have to optimize Android to their product at all. Just write whatever you want, throw features in by the bucket, and let hardware pick up the slack. Motorola is the only one trying. If they build a spec beast that is optimized to Android like the X, it could be the hero phone everyone is looking for.

    Not everything is about ROMs
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    10-01-2013 10:51 PM
  24. jerrod6's Avatar
    I expect Google to make compromises. Without that, there is NO WAY they can sell the phones at the prices they do. If we don't want this then we need to be prepared to pay more.
    I would rather the compromise come at the camera end than anywhere else because I can always get a camera app like HDR+ from the play store to compensate. Like Pollster says It's true that most OEM's don't develop software that is optimized, they just write sloppy code that works, but then requires massive amounts of RAM to store the executables, and a fully loaded processor to reduce performance lag...and even then sometimes there is lag. Think the GS4...released with high spec hardware...bloated software...phones lagging....fixed by software update from Samsung.
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    10-04-2013 02:17 PM
  25. Mobius360's Avatar
    I don't get it, there is going to be something that has to give for the prices a Nexus phone have been.

    I have a G2 and I'll say this. The camera is by far the best I've used in a smartphone. If they can get something close on a Nexus people should be happy. The screen on the G2 is really just perfect, if they get this tech on the Nexus people should be pretty happy. The battery on the G2 lasts a long time, yes it appears the Nexus will have a smaller battery than the G2 but it should easily still last all day.

    Everyone wants the Nexus to be a $1000 spec phone for $200. It sure seems they are offering a lot to me for the prices.
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    10-07-2013 10:07 AM
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