09-28-2014 04:03 PM
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  1. GSOAT's Avatar
    I'm an iPhone user, since the iPhone 2, and I'm going to jump to Android for my upcoming purchase (contract ends October 2nd). I've been doing a ton of research and I'm getting more confused as I go. At first I had narrowed it down to the S5, G3, or M8, but I kept reading gripes about the (respectively) Samsung, LG and HTC skins and kept reading platitudes about "stock Android", which raises the possibility that I would include Moto X and Nexus 6 (if it's happening) into my consideration.

    Questions:
    1. How annoying are the skins, really to a non-power user (keeping in mind that I'm coming from iOS)?
    2. How likely is the release of the (consensus "stock Android" superstar) Nexus 6 in 2014?
    3. If you're me, coming from iOS, with a perfectly usable iPhone 5 and a contract up in October, do you jump in one of the flagships (S5, G3, M8) or hold out for the next Nexus (or the Moto X? or something else?)?

    Thanks in advance!

    Andy
    09-13-2014 12:34 PM
  2. UJ95x's Avatar
    My vote would be for the Moto X. It has a stock Android experience with very useful features added to improve it. The build quality of the original was great, and it feels great in the hand.

    As far as skins go, you most likely won't notice the difference unless you use both a skinned version of Android and a stock/near-stock version. But like Golfdriver said, the experience is usually smoother with a stock device.
  3. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    Skins can possibly slow the phone down. If you are going to an Android, I have seen many threads where an iPhone user changes to a Moto X or Nexus and they typically like it.

    The next Nexus is still in question. It might be announced soon when Google releases the new OS in a few weeks.
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    09-13-2014 04:03 PM
  4. UJ95x's Avatar
    My vote would be for the Moto X. It has a stock Android experience with very useful features added to improve it. The build quality of the original was great, and it feels great in the hand.

    As far as skins go, you most likely won't notice the difference unless you use both a skinned version of Android and a stock/near-stock version. But like Golfdriver said, the experience is usually smoother with a stock device.
    09-13-2014 04:06 PM
  5. Alec Mountain's Avatar
    I vote for the Moto X as well, the new one coming out at least. Since you're new to Android you probably won't know what a skin really is anyway, but I'd still go with something similar to if not stock android
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    09-13-2014 04:38 PM
  6. GSOAT's Avatar
    Is the Moto X+1 supposed to be better than the Nexus 6 (all based on rumors, I know...)?
    09-13-2014 06:29 PM
  7. UJ95x's Avatar
    Is the Moto X+1 supposed to be better than the Nexus 6 (all based on rumors, I know...)?
    The rumors are that it has better specs. But it's all just rumors like you said, so I wouldn't pay attention to them
    09-13-2014 06:41 PM
  8. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    Even if true, it won't mean the Nexus will be a bad device.
    09-13-2014 07:13 PM
  9. mrvco's Avatar
    And then there is the (rumored) forthcoming Moto X "Pure Edition".

    Regardless, Nexus devices are high bang-for-the-buck, but not at the sharp end of the feature or performance scale.
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    09-13-2014 07:39 PM
  10. UJ95x's Avatar
    And then there is the (rumored) forthcoming Moto X "Pure Edition".

    Regardless, Nexus devices are high bang-for-the-buck, but not at the sharp end of the feature or performance scale.
    All that is is an unbranded, unlocked Moto X. Nothing special in terms of hardware or software.
    The Nexus 5 was definitely a high end phone...
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    09-13-2014 07:42 PM
  11. GSOAT's Avatar
    Sorry to keep peppering you with questions everyone, but what is it about stock Android (Moto, Nexus) that is superior to the skinned versions (LG, Samsung, HTC)? I guess I'm trying to figure out if I should, as a former iPhone user, go for a skin or for stock, and why? Are the skins sometimes better, easier to use? I know they tend to bog down speed a little, but I'm trying to figure out whether I would appreciate them or resent them.
    09-13-2014 07:53 PM
  12. UJ95x's Avatar
    Sorry to keep peppering you with questions everyone, but what is it about stock Android (Moto, Nexus) that is superior to the skinned versions (LG, Samsung, HTC)? I guess I'm trying to figure out if I should, as a former iPhone user, go for a skin or for stock, and why? Are the skins sometimes better, easier to use? I know they tend to bog down speed a little, but I'm trying to figure out whether I would appreciate them or resent them.
    Well they're all quite a bit different. You'd have to use them to see if you like them or not, but at least here on AC, not many are fans of TouchWiz. Sense is decent IMO, and I'm not sure what LG's skin is called, but I'd put it above TW but below Sense.

    Stock is a lot more cleaned up IMO. And it allows for faster software updates. But speed is generally what makes them better than the skinned versions of Android.
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    09-13-2014 08:08 PM
  13. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    Stock also takes less memory than some skinned versions of Android, namely TW.
    09-13-2014 08:51 PM
  14. UJ95x's Avatar
    Stock also takes less memory than some skinned versions of Android, namely TW.
    Storage space too
    Golfdriver97 likes this.
    09-13-2014 08:57 PM
  15. Vic Rivera's Avatar
    So, what is the " skin"?

    I read all the replies, but no one really got into what are the "skin " of the device.

    Thanks in advance.

    Posted via Android Central App
    09-14-2014 07:47 PM
  16. GSOAT's Avatar
    From my understanding, "stock Android" is the basic, bare-bones operating system, and the "skins" are the proprietary tweaks to the base Android OS that create the look of the system in those (Samsung, LG, HTC, etc.) phones. That's why, for instance, LG, HTC and Samsung phones look different on the screen than each other. Without the skins, they would (presumably) look the same (or similar), but if you look at "home screen" pictures, they don't look alike at all- colors, the way the screens are laid out, etc. It's a selling point, because all other things being equal, what makes an HTC more desirable than a Samsung if they look exactly the same? On the other hand, those skins take memory and tend to slow down the phone (to varying degrees), so some Android purists prefer "stock Android", without the skins.
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    09-14-2014 08:09 PM
  17. phoneaddict78's Avatar
    From my understanding, "stock Android" is the basic, bare-bones operating system, and the "skins" are the proprietary tweaks to the base Android OS that create the look of the system in those (Samsung, LG, HTC, etc.) phones. That's why, for instance, LG, HTC and Samsung phones look different on the screen than each other. Without the skins, they would (presumably) look the same (or similar), but if you look at "home screen" pictures, they don't look alike at all- colors, the way the screens are laid out, etc. It's a selling point, because all other things being equal, what makes an HTC more desirable than a Samsung if they look exactly the same? On the other hand, those skins take memory and tend to slow down the phone (to varying degrees), so some Android purists prefer "stock Android", without the skins.
    Yeah that's correct. What I usually do on an Android phone with a skin is use nova prime as a launcher. It gets rid of any lag at least for me it does.
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    09-14-2014 08:24 PM
  18. Vic Rivera's Avatar
    Wow, that is what I was waiting for. I have a blackberry and their forums are nothing like this.

    Thanks a lot. You just made me reallocate consider going to an android base phone.

    Thanks again.

    Posted via Android Central App
    09-14-2014 08:29 PM
  19. UJ95x's Avatar
    From my understanding, "stock Android" is the basic, bare-bones operating system, and the "skins" are the proprietary tweaks to the base Android OS that create the look of the system in those (Samsung, LG, HTC, etc.) phones. That's why, for instance, LG, HTC and Samsung phones look different on the screen than each other. Without the skins, they would (presumably) look the same (or similar), but if you look at "home screen" pictures, they don't look alike at all- colors, the way the screens are laid out, etc. It's a selling point, because all other things being equal, what makes an HTC more desirable than a Samsung if they look exactly the same? On the other hand, those skins take memory and tend to slow down the phone (to varying degrees), so some Android purists prefer "stock Android", without the skins.
    100% spot on.
    /thread
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    09-14-2014 08:45 PM
  20. Rizz1-2's Avatar
    From my understanding, "stock Android" is the basic, bare-bones operating system, and the "skins" are the proprietary tweaks to the base Android OS that create the look of the system in those (Samsung, LG, HTC, etc.) phones. That's why, for instance, LG, HTC and Samsung phones look different on the screen than each other. Without the skins, they would (presumably) look the same (or similar), but if you look at "home screen" pictures, they don't look alike at all- colors, the way the screens are laid out, etc. It's a selling point, because all other things being equal, what makes an HTC more desirable than a Samsung if they look exactly the same? On the other hand, those skins take memory and tend to slow down the phone (to varying degrees), so some Android purists prefer "stock Android", without the skins.
    Tip my hat to you sir.

    For someone who started this thread 2 days ago wondering about skins, you really have a good grip on them now. This post explained them perfectly. Cheers!
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    09-15-2014 09:08 AM
  21. BubbleBalls's Avatar
    I moved from ios to android recently and have not looked back. Android lets you tweak so much more than the locked down IOS. I have had a Motorola moto G, oneplus one, HTC M7 and now an LG G3. Each have their nags but skinwise you will quickly get used to whatever phone you pick. If you dont like a skin you can use a launcher and tweak everything to your liking. If you go further you can look at rooting and custom roms (Not for G3 just yet). Android really is great for personalising.
    Only nag I have is that Netflix on every android device I have tried has audio sync issues. Comfort wise, the G3 sits amazingly well one handed for a 5.5 display .
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    09-15-2014 11:31 AM
  22. GSOAT's Avatar
    I might need to open a separate thread to ask about "launchers". Let me take a shot: It sounds like an alternative to a skin, but since it doesn't involve rooting the skin and going to stock Android, I assume that the skin is technically still running, so the launcher actually adds more for the device to process, so while it might clean up the look of the OS to your liking, you are still bogging down the hardware with more to process. Is that an accurate interpretation?
    09-15-2014 11:43 AM
  23. UJ95x's Avatar
    I might need to open a separate thread to ask about "launchers". Let me take a shot: It sounds like an alternative to a skin, but since it doesn't involve rooting the skin and going to stock Android, I assume that the skin is technically still running, so the launcher actually adds more for the device to process, so while it might clean up the look of the OS to your liking, you are still bogging down the hardware with more to process. Is that an accurate interpretation?
    Close. Basically all it does is replace your home screen and app drawer. The skin (Sense, TouchWiz, etc.) still runs in the background because those are more than just what you're seeing, but the launcher uses very little resources, so it won't noticeably affect the amount of processing going on. At least in TouchWiz's case, it'll run faster most of the time when on those screens (again, home and the app drawer).
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    09-15-2014 11:48 AM
  24. deefster's Avatar
    I've used Samsung's touchwiz, HTC sense, and native Google now on a nexus, and each has strengths and I've liked each in their own way. It sounds like a copout answer but it really does depend on personal preference. there are people here that very passionate about native android, but don't get too caught up in it. I've gone through phases where I liked lots of bling, but am currently going through a minimalist phase. You can change quite a bit about your look and feel with a new launcher regardless of the skin, and if you decide to root and unlock the bootloader, you can change just about everything. Keep in mind the carrier as well, as that combined with the maker of the handset determine how often you get updates.
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    09-15-2014 01:28 PM
  25. FRoStYisGoD's Avatar
    Sorry to keep peppering you with questions everyone, but what is it about stock Android (Moto, Nexus) that is superior to the skinned versions (LG, Samsung, HTC)? I guess I'm trying to figure out if I should, as a former iPhone user, go for a skin or for stock, and why? Are the skins sometimes better, easier to use? I know they tend to bog down speed a little, but I'm trying to figure out whether I would appreciate them or resent them.
    It's all really personal preference. I prefer stock Android as it gets update faster, the phone operates faster, and I prefer the on screen buttons. There are alot more reason of course, but to me stock Android is so fluid I could never give that up.

    Sent from my Nexus 5
    09-15-2014 04:26 PM
  26. Slashyou's Avatar
    I'm an iPhone user, since the iPhone 2, and I'm going to jump to Android for my upcoming purchase (contract ends October 2nd). I've been doing a ton of research and I'm getting more confused as I go. At first I had narrowed it down to the S5, G3, or M8, but I kept reading gripes about the (respectively) Samsung, LG and HTC skins and kept reading platitudes about "stock Android", which raises the possibility that I would include Moto X and Nexus 6 (if it's happening) into my consideration.

    Questions:
    1. How annoying are the skins, really to a non-power user (keeping in mind that I'm coming from iOS)?
    2. How likely is the release of the (consensus "stock Android" superstar) Nexus 6 in 2014?
    3. If you're me, coming from iOS, with a perfectly usable iPhone 5 and a contract up in October, do you jump in one of the flagships (S5, G3, M8) or hold out for the next Nexus (or the Moto X? or something else?)?

    Thanks in advance!

    Andy
    Skins looks boring and they lock down your phone.
    09-16-2014 09:07 AM
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