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  1. ydooby's Avatar
    My Nexus 6P is coming Friday, so I've been looking at chargers for both the car and my desk at work. Here's where I'm at:

    PECHAM USB-C to USB-A 3.0 Nylon Braided 3.3Ft[1M] USB Data Cable

    Etekcity® Combo of 15W/3.1A High-Output Portable Wall Charger and Car Vehicle Charger Dual USB Ports

    I think they both meet the 5V/3A spec for fast charging. I know the chargers are only 3.1A total for both ports, but 99% is just me charging, so that's not a big deal. I also like the idea of having a USB-A charger, cause I still have a lot of devices that aren't USB-C yet, so this will still work with them.

    I probably could have gone with a cheaper cable, but I like the idea of having a 'tougher' cable in the vehicle, especially cause my SUV has the cigarette lighter in the console, and the top of the console closes down on it (it has a notch for cables coming out, but cables move )

    Anyone have any thoughts? Also, I've never heard of the Etekcity brand - anyone know anything about them?
    No. If you look at the specs closer, you'll see "Output power: DC 5V, 2.1A + 1A (3.1A total) max.", which means it has one port outputting 2.1A and the other port outputting 1A, for a combined so-called "3.1A", which is definitely not the same as one port outputting 3A, necessary for charging the 6P at maximum speed.

    What you need to look for is one that can actually output 5V/3A to a single Type-C connector, such as this (can only be bought in bulk at the moment):
    http://www.alibaba.com/product-detai...308343561.html

    Or you can buy one from Google... when it's in stock:
    https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_charger
    10-27-2015 05:30 PM
  2. d2008's Avatar
    Despite this is car charger thread, there is RAV 20100 power bank with USB-C 5V/3A input/output ports. Let's wait until somebody test it.
    10-27-2015 09:52 PM
  3. PhiPsi32's Avatar
    That RAV powerbank is 2.4A. Anker has USB-C options "Coming Soon". Whatever that means.
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    10-27-2015 10:20 PM
  4. JoeLemaire's Avatar
    Ugh, right. Guess I missed that part. Damn.

    Oh well. Looks like I'll just wait!
    10-28-2015 07:08 AM
  5. d2008's Avatar
    That RAV powerbank is 2.4A. Anker has USB-C options "Coming Soon". Whatever that means.
    What do you mean 2.4A ?

    Google Nexus 6P USB-C car chargers?-rav.jpg
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    10-28-2015 08:36 AM
  6. jrogi's Avatar
    I wonder if one of these USB Y adapters along with a very short USB-A to USB-C cable would allow the device to pull max current from a pair of 2a USB ports. If anybody has these pieces laying around, please give it a try and let us know.

    I might just order them, but I'm having trouble finding a super short USB-A to USB-C adapter. I do have a USB-C to female USB-A USBOTG cable (7-inch), but that would require yet another link in the chain... a USB-A gender changer. Still, I might try it just for fun. If I do, I'll report back.
    10-28-2015 10:23 PM
  7. PhiPsi32's Avatar
    I stand corrected. I only saw the USB output at 2.4A

    Google Nexus 6P USB-C car chargers?-screenhunter_47-oct.-28-20.09.jpg
    10-28-2015 11:11 PM
  8. SLOcollegebeat's Avatar
    5x users, stay away from this car charger. amazon.com/gp/product/B00VH84L5E/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00VH84L5E&linkCode=as2&tag=scvo-20&linkId=U3QZNTJAGSMLHL6U

    Just got it yesterday, and it does not charge my phone. It appears to begin charging then stops after a couple seconds. It repeatedly tries to start up but fails over and over. So, the screen never sleeps and it just drains battery.

    I'm certain it's not a bad unit. It charges my HTC Desire 816, my wife's LG Volt and an iPhone 5 with no issues. I've tried it in multiple cars. I'm using a OnePlus A-to-C cord that works just fine to charge the 5x with a multi-port Anker wall charger and a Sharkk portable battery. I have an older off-brand car charger that does charge the 5x but at a slow rate, about 10% per 30 minutes.

    So, i'm giving this Anker car charger to my wife. She's thrilled, but I'm a little bummed to be stuck with my older unit.
    10-29-2015 12:25 AM
  9. AustinTech's Avatar
    I get my 6p this evening. I've got several QC2.0 chargers so I'll test them out and let everyone know what's up with that aspect.
    10-29-2015 02:29 PM
  10. d2008's Avatar
    I stand corrected. I only saw the USB output at 2.4A

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    Read the Notes:
    USB-C/Type-C input and output combined in one port.

    And there is "Type-C Output: 5V/3A Max" in the spec.
    10-29-2015 08:32 PM
  11. Runningwarrior08's Avatar
    Good news. My 6p stock charger and my tronsmart quick charge 2.0 charger (using type A to C cable from oneplus) charge at the same rate. Both average around 1800-2400 mah when charging under the same conditions.

    Anything over 2amps will trigger the charging rapidly notification. I kinda wish it was anything 15watts or higher.

    I can plug in my killawatt and get wattage readings in a little bit.

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    10-29-2015 09:15 PM
  12. ydooby's Avatar
    Good news. My 6p stock charger and my tronsmart quick charge 2.0 charger (using type A to C cable from oneplus) charge at the same rate. Both average around 1800-2400 mah when charging under the same conditions.

    Anything over 2amps will trigger the charging rapidly notification. I kinda wish it was anything 15watts or higher.

    I can plug in my killawatt and get wattage readings in a little bit.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    Weird.. The stock charger should theoretically charge faster but in reality it charges only at the same rate as a QC2 one? I guess the 3A current can only be achieved when the state of charge dips below 50% or something. Can you retry the same comparison test when your battery is at a much lower level?
    10-30-2015 01:49 PM
  13. taco-man's Avatar
    I have this charger: Vinsic® High Speed Car Charger with Type C Output

    And this cable: Rankie® USB 3.1 Type-C to Type-C Connector


    I maxed out at 1550 mA

    It does say "Charging Rapidly," so that makes me feel better.
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    10-30-2015 07:46 PM
  14. kjnangre's Avatar
    I have this charger: Vinsic® High Speed Car Charger with Type C Output
    Where did you get it from?
    10-30-2015 07:56 PM
  15. Ian B's Avatar
    Oneplus.net has the best prices for type c to sub cables for $5-$6 bucks but they are out of stock now.

    Ian B
    10-30-2015 09:25 PM
  16. nickacs's Avatar
    10-30-2015 11:59 PM
  17. elfrocampeador's Avatar
    Is there perhaps such a thing as a car charger that supports USB data passthrough? My car reads the music off my phone and it would be cool to take advantage of the "charging rapidly" while still playing music and such (when my 6p escapes processing purgatory, that is)
    11-01-2015 02:19 AM
  18. pr627's Avatar
    I am going to wait and see what quality accessories come out for this phone before I jump to conclusions and waste money and have to return things based on them not working or not working as expected. The battery life is pretty good so far so I should be ok without a car charger for now.
    11-01-2015 10:15 AM
  19. maverick7526's Avatar
    I am going to wait and see what quality accessories come out for this phone before I jump to conclusions and waste money and have to return things based on them not working or not working as expected. The battery life is pretty good so far so I should be ok without a car charger for now.
    I'm using my incipio car charging brick, I think it's rapidly charging. However I haven't had my battery low enough to use it. Now it should with my battery around 20%.

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    11-01-2015 10:21 AM
  20. TheNexxuvas's Avatar
    Almost everything at amazon is a bust. There is one actual charger rated at 3a, with a type c to type c connection, everything else you really need to read those output bylines, they are all stating 2.x + 1.x, and ive only found 1 that truly stamped 3a on the power rating. Problem is the reviewers are saying it doesnt work for the 5x/6p at all, but i suspect he is using type a to type c which would not engage rapid properly as 3a type c to type c connection should. Im holding off until we get better tests and less speculations.
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    11-01-2015 01:49 PM
  21. maverick7526's Avatar
    Almost everything at amazon is a bust. There is one actual charger rated at 3a, with a type c to type c connection, everything else you really need to read those output bylines, they are all stating 2.x + 1.x, and ive only found 1 that truly stamped 3a on the power rating. Problem is the reviewers are saying it doesnt work for the 5x/6p at all, but i suspect he is using type a to type c which would not engage rapid properly as 3a type c to type c connection should. Im holding off until we get better tests and less speculations.
    I'm sure after a little time, there will be better accessories. I'll buy another brick and cable, until then though my old car charger charges fast, but not rapidly.

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    11-01-2015 02:59 PM
  22. dusoccer10's Avatar
    Almost everything at amazon is a bust. There is one actual charger rated at 3a, with a type c to type c connection, everything else you really need to read those output bylines, they are all stating 2.x + 1.x, and ive only found 1 that truly stamped 3a on the power rating. Problem is the reviewers are saying it doesnt work for the 5x/6p at all, but i suspect he is using type a to type c which would not engage rapid properly as 3a type c to type c connection should. Im holding off until we get better tests and less speculations.
    Type a to type c has no effect on whether a charger can get to 3A. Type A cords can handle 3A if they are properly made for it. See the one that Google sells (https://store.google.com/product/usb...d_a_plug_cable). The style of the connector, for the most part, does not matter.

    What is really going on is that there are two different things at play:

    1.) Charger capacity - can the charger distribute power at 5V/3A. Most of them cannot at this point and this is where we are seeing the slightly below full speed. A lot of the chargers available now only go to 2A or 2.4A. This should be fixed in about a month or two. Additionally, manufacturers are playing marketing games with 3A right now by combining the outputs for both outlets and writing in small print the individual outputs.

    2.) Cable rating - If you are looking for 3rd party cables, people need to make sure that the cable can handle 5V/3A. Not all cables can handle that rating. Some are specifically made for Quick Charge 2.0 so they have a cap at 2.4A.

    My guess is that around the holidays is when there should be plenty of select available.
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    11-02-2015 10:13 AM
  23. taco-man's Avatar
    As nickacs guessed - Amazon. I would have posted a link, but I'm a newbie, and I'm not allowed yet.
    11-02-2015 11:59 AM
  24. maverick7526's Avatar
    Type a to type c has no effect on whether a charger can get to 3A. Type A cords can handle 3A if they are properly made for it. See the one that Google sells (https://store.google.com/product/usb...d_a_plug_cable). The style of the connector, for the most part, does not matter.

    What is really going on is that there are two different things at play:

    1.) Charger capacity - can the charger distribute power at 5V/3A. Most of them cannot at this point and this is where we are seeing the slightly below full speed. A lot of the chargers available now only go to 2A or 2.4A. This should be fixed in about a month or two. Additionally, manufacturers are playing marketing games with 3A right now by combining the outputs for both outlets and writing in small print the individual outputs.

    2.) Cable rating - If you are looking for 3rd party cables, people need to make sure that the cable can handle 5V/3A. Not all cables can handle that rating. Some are specifically made for Quick Charge 2.0 so they have a cap at 2.4A.

    My guess is that around the holidays is when there should be plenty of select available.
    Closest I have found on amazon is the tronsmart car charger. A lot of the questions asked if it rapid charges the 5x/6p. Apparently it does.

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    11-02-2015 12:19 PM
  25. mogelijk's Avatar
    Type a to type c has no effect on whether a charger can get to 3A. Type A cords can handle 3A if they are properly made for it. See the one that Google sells (https://store.google.com/product/usb...d_a_plug_cable). The style of the connector, for the most part, does not matter.

    What is really going on is that there are two different things at play:

    1.) Charger capacity - can the charger distribute power at 5V/3A. Most of them cannot at this point and this is where we are seeing the slightly below full speed. A lot of the chargers available now only go to 2A or 2.4A. This should be fixed in about a month or two. Additionally, manufacturers are playing marketing games with 3A right now by combining the outputs for both outlets and writing in small print the individual outputs.

    2.) Cable rating - If you are looking for 3rd party cables, people need to make sure that the cable can handle 5V/3A. Not all cables can handle that rating. Some are specifically made for Quick Charge 2.0 so they have a cap at 2.4A.

    My guess is that around the holidays is when there should be plenty of select available.
    Actually, there is a third issue, and that is communication. The USB-C charging standard allows the charger to communicate to the phone, so the phone can tell the charger how much charge to send. This is why many of the older Quick Chargers aren't fast charging, not that they can't deliver the power but rather because they can't communicate properly with the phone (the Quick Charger communicates with Quick Charge phones using that protocol, but typically can't communicate using the USB-C standard).

    From what I can tell, you are correct that a USB-A to USB-C cord should be able to work, just that whatever USB-A device is being used as a charger has to be able to communicate using that USB-C type standard.
    11-02-2015 02:39 PM
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