11-16-2013 04:05 PM
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  1. Bert Coules's Avatar
    Can anyone recommend a basic program for reading and editing MS Word files? I'd like to be able to transfer a document to my tablet from my PC, read it and do some straightforward text editing, save it locally on the tablet, then later transfer it back to the PC. I'm trying Kingsoft Office but I don't get on with it and it doesn't help that the illustrations in the online manual bear scant resemblance to the program as it runs on my Nexus. I'd be grateful for any pointers to alternatives.

    Many thanks.
    11-09-2013 02:18 PM
  2. ramandeepghuman's Avatar
    Quick office is good. Plus Microsoft has office app now for 365 users for work power point and excel I believe!

    ttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.office.officehub

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using AC Forums mobile app
    11-09-2013 02:24 PM
  3. Bert Coules's Avatar
    Thanks for the speedy reply. I'll check those two out.
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    11-09-2013 02:38 PM
  4. Bert Coules's Avatar
    One curiosity with Kingsoft Office: when I was trying it out I edited a Word file and saved it, and the program reported that it had been saved to /storage/emulated/0/documents/ - but I can't find that location on my tablet. Is it likely to be a hidden directory or similar? The Kingsoft prog is supposed to have a built-in file browser, but I can't find that either! Have the changes I made to my test document been lost?

    Many thanks.
    11-10-2013 03:56 AM
  5. Algus's Avatar
    You might need to download a 3rd party file manager. I think Kingsoft cam browse your files in - app but to just find it, you need another app. I use file manager by rhythm but there are several other good ones.

    Sent from my Galaxy Note 3 using Tapatalk 4
    11-10-2013 04:03 AM
  6. Bert Coules's Avatar
    Thanks for that; I'll try a third party file manager, but it's odd that browsing the Nexus files with my PC via a USB connection doesn't display the directory either.

    As I said, the Kingsoft online manual has screenshots which are quite different to how the prog looks on my Nexus: I have a whole menu bar missing - and unfortunately, it seems to be the menu bar which includes not only the file browser but also the settings options (which possibly includes hiding and restoring the menu bars!). I'm reluctant to reinstall the program in case that loses the edited file (though if it has been saved somewhere, I suppose that might be OK). I shouldn't have used an important file for the initial test...
    11-10-2013 04:09 AM
  7. Bert Coules's Avatar
    Algus, the Rhythm file manager did the trick - I've now found the elusive /storage/emulated/0/documents/ folder and with it my edited file. So many thanks for that advice.

    Now what I have to investigate is how to transfer it back to my PC.
    11-10-2013 05:20 AM
  8. Nana Helen's Avatar
    WOW!
    Sorry to gate crash
    But to be able to edit ms word documents on an android is huge!
    I had no idea
    Thanks guys I will subscribe to this link and investigate some of this too

    Wow-the potential is huge, my head is all of a whizz lol
    Helen

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    11-10-2013 05:40 AM
  9. Bert Coules's Avatar
    Hi Helen,

    I was pleased too, when I found out that you could do this. I've only been trying Kingsoft Office for a day, and it's obviously going to be useful, but it's pretty fiddly and there are some key features which aren't exactly obvious, like how to call up the keyboard (long-press on a word and a pop-up menu appears, but even then "keyboard" isn't a visible option - you have to scroll sideways along the menu to find it). And as I said, I still haven't discovered how to import and export files to my PC.

    If you try Kingsoft I'd be really interested to hear how you get on. Good luck!
    11-10-2013 05:50 AM
  10. Nana Helen's Avatar
    Hi Helen,

    I was pleased too, when I found out that you could do this. I've only been trying Kingsoft Office for a day, and it's obviously going to be useful, but it's pretty fiddly and there are some key features which aren't exactly obvious, like how to call up the keyboard (long-press on a word and a pop-up menu appears, but even then "keyboard" isn't a visible option - you have to scroll sideways along the menu to find it). And as I said, I still haven't discovered how to import and export files to my PC.

    If you try Kingsoft I'd be really interested to hear how you get on. Good luck!
    Thanks Bert,
    I'll keep you posted, and vice versa

    I was tossing whether to get a window's or android wen I decided to get a tablet.
    But I love android and I was rewarding myself lol
    If I can work it out, this will be extremely handy

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    11-10-2013 06:02 AM
  11. gardenersassistant's Avatar
    Thanks for that; I'll try a third party file manager, but it's odd that browsing the Nexus files with my PC via a USB connection doesn't display the directory either.

    As I said, the Kingsoft online manual has screenshots which are quite different to how the prog looks on my Nexus: I have a whole menu bar missing - and unfortunately, it seems to be the menu bar which includes not only the file browser but also the settings options (which possibly includes hiding and restoring the menu bars!). I'm reluctant to reinstall the program in case that loses the edited file (though if it has been saved somewhere, I suppose that might be OK). I shouldn't have used an important file for the initial test...
    Is this the menu bar you are not seeing?

    On the Kingsoft Home page

    Please recommend a basic program for working with MS Word documents-kingsoft-home-page-menu.png

    Within a Kingsoft module

    Please recommend a basic program for working with MS Word documents-kingsoft-application-menu.png

    You show/hide it by tapping on the tab at the top left. (Actually, I generally click rather than tap because I find it far easier, quicker and more precise to use a (bluetooth) mouse and keyboard when that is practical.)

    Algus, the Rhythm file manager did the trick - I've now found the elusive /storage/emulated/0/documents/ folder and with it my edited file. So many thanks for that advice.

    Now what I have to investigate is how to transfer it back to my PC.
    You may find it helpful to use ES File Manager. This lets you do file transfers, wirelessly, to and from a PC, controlling it from the tablet rather than the PC. For example, here are the two PCs and router on my home network visible in ES File Manager.

    Please recommend a basic program for working with MS Word documents-network-devices-visible-es-file-manager.png

    You have to make the appropriate folder on the PC Shared with read/write access. Here is a screenshot from my Hudl showing three of the PNG screenshots used in this post. They are shown, using ES File Manger, in a shared drive on the PC, to which they have been copied, wirelessly, using ES File Manager. (To make things simple at the PC end I have put a shared folder called "Transfer" on to my desktop. It is that folder that is shown in the following screenshot.)

    Please recommend a basic program for working with MS Word documents-files-copied-hudl-shown-es-file-manager-pc-shared-drive.png
    11-10-2013 06:07 AM
  12. Algus's Avatar
    There are a few different good word processor apps for Android as well that all support word docs. I use OfficeSuite Pro 7 but Kingsoft is another good one.

    Android supports bluetooth mice and keyboards so with the right setup you can have a working office environment on your tablet. I find working on the small screen to cumbersome for prolonged work but if you have a device that supports video out you can plug right into a monitor.

    Compatibility with Word formatting can be a mixed bag. I recommend to always inspect your docs on Word . If you must have full compatibility there is an Office 365 app but that requires a subscription.

    Sent from my Galaxy Note 3 using Tapatalk 4
    11-10-2013 06:27 AM
  13. Bert Coules's Avatar
    Is this the menu bar you are not seeing?
    Yes, that's it. When I open Kingsoft Office, what I see is this:

    Please recommend a basic program for working with MS Word documents-kingsoft-screenshot-1.jpg

    and if I tap the "W" tab, then what I get is this:

    Please recommend a basic program for working with MS Word documents-kingsoft-screenshot-2.jpg

    I'll take a look at ES file manager.

    (Sorry about the poor quality images, which I produced by photographing the screen of my Nexus - how low-tech can you get?)

    Edited to add:

    Ha! I've just discovered, completely by chance, that tapping the large X at the top right-hand corner of the screen brings up the missing menu bar. Now to investigate what I can do with it. Will it let me export the file to my PC, I wonder?
    11-10-2013 06:40 AM
  14. gardenersassistant's Avatar
    it's pretty fiddly
    I find that with fingers or stylus for all the apps I've tried that need precise positioning,for example for the cursor position. My finger/stylus stops me seeing where the cursor is as I'm trying to position it. Kingsoft helps with this by providing a magnifying glass that sometimes pops up, but all the same as I mentioned above I find it far easier to use a mouse.

    and there are some key features which aren't exactly obvious, like how to call up the keyboard (long-press on a word and a pop-up menu appears, but even then "keyboard" isn't a visible option - you have to scroll sideways along the menu to find it).
    I'm finding Kingsoft inconsistent in its responses to taps. In the word processor sometimes a tap will bring up the keyboard, and sometimes it brings up the pop-up menu, and sometimes it does nothing. In the spreadsheet a double tap on a cell usually brings up the keyboard. In presentations it is inconsistent too. (I don't have any problems when using a physical keyboard.)

    If you are going to carry on using a virtual keyboard you might want to look at the alternatives. I have rather taken to SwiftKey (the only one I have tried so far, and this isn't a recommendation because I don't know what the others are like). I am using the trial version at the moment but I suspect I will be buying it when the trial runs out.

    Please recommend a basic program for working with MS Word documents-swiftkey-predictive-text.png
    11-10-2013 06:51 AM
  15. Bert Coules's Avatar
    I'm finding Kingsoft inconsistent in its responses to taps.
    Yes, my experience is the same.

    If you are going to carry on using a virtual keyboard you might want to look at the alternatives. I have rather taken to SwiftKey...
    Thanks for that. I particularly like the idea of having proper, if virtual, navigation arrow keys.
    11-10-2013 06:56 AM
  16. Adamsberg's Avatar
    I use DocumentsToGo for MS Office docs. The app syncs via USB cable with the PC. For that is to install a host app on PC, I didn't tried that because I sync with the app FolderSync to my NAS via WiFi and the MS Office on PC accesses the NAS via home network.

    BTW, using FolderSync to syn via WiFi to a network share on your PC it's a way to using the Android office app of your choice
    11-10-2013 07:02 AM
  17. Bert Coules's Avatar
    Well, I finally managed to get my file back onto my PC, but the only way I could do it from within Kingsoft was by attaching it to an email - and even then, although Kingsoft reported that it had been sent, I discovered that it hadn't and I had to send it manually, as it were.

    There's got to be something better than this: emailing a file to myself when the sending tablet and the receiving PC are sitting within one foot of each other and are connected by a cable is absurd. I'll check out the alternatives that have been suggested.
    11-10-2013 07:24 AM
  18. Nana Helen's Avatar
    Well, I finally managed to get my file back onto my PC, but the only way I could do it from within Kingsoft was by attaching it to an email - and even then, although Kingsoft reported that it had been sent, I discovered that it hadn't and I had to send it manually, as it were.

    There's got to be something better than this: emailing a file to myself when the sending tablet and the receiving PC are sitting within one foot of each other and are connected by a cable is absurd. I'll check out the alternatives that have been suggested.
    Yes i agree
    Keep us (or me) updated, i would love to follow yr progress,including what you try and what end up happy with.
    It all sounds very complicated and i think i would manage an app much better if id followed this thread.
    Besides, its very interesting.

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    11-10-2013 01:57 PM
  19. Algus's Avatar
    I like airdroid for transferring files. You turn the app on with your phone and connect on your pc via your browser.

    Gives you a pseudo desktop, you can even send SMSes, to pull work from.

    Sent from my Galaxy Note 3 using Tapatalk 4
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    11-10-2013 07:59 PM
  20. zedorda's Avatar
    Well, I finally managed to get my file back onto my PC, but the only way I could do it from within Kingsoft was by attaching it to an email - and even then, although Kingsoft reported that it had been sent, I discovered that it hadn't and I had to send it manually, as it were.

    There's got to be something better than this: emailing a file to myself when the sending tablet and the receiving PC are sitting within one foot of each other and are connected by a cable is absurd. I'll check out the alternatives that have been suggested.
    I have found an app called X-plore to be a great file manager. It has a dual pane setup so u can browse two locations. It also has nice network abilities and can scan your network for any computer connected to your LAN. It found my Windows 7 system just fine all I had to do was enter my login name/password and I was able to browse all my shared folders transfer file from one pane to the other.

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...s.Xplore&hl=en
    11-10-2013 10:04 PM
  21. gardenersassistant's Avatar
    I have found an app called X-plore to be a great file manager. It has a dual pane setup so u can browse two locations. It also has nice network abilities and can scan your network for any computer connected to your LAN. It found my Windows 7 system just fine all I had to do was enter my login name/password and I was able to browse all my shared folders transfer file from one pane to the other.

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...s.Xplore&hl=en
    Nice find! Just installed it. It is much more intuitive, easier and quicker than ES File Manager for copying between devices, directories etc. Thanks.

    Bert - Here it is set up to do the same Tablet to PC transfer using ES File Manager shown in screenshots above. So much easier this way being able to see both devices/directories at the same time.

    Please recommend a basic program for working with MS Word documents-x-plore-transfer-tablet-shared-drive-pc.png
    11-11-2013 04:18 AM
  22. Bert Coules's Avatar
    Thanks to Zedorda and Gardenersassistant. I'll bypass ES File Manager and go straight for the program you recommend. I've been tied up working on the newly rescued and relocated Word file, but that should be done by tomorrow and I'll have some time free to check out X-plore.

    Gardenersassistant, how are you capturing those screenshots?
    11-11-2013 05:20 PM
  23. gardenersassistant's Avatar
    Gardenersassistant, how are you capturing those screenshots?
    I think you need Android 4.0 or higher for this. Press the power button and volume down button at the same time for 1-2 seconds. You then hear a shutter noise and a screenshot turns up in the Screenshots directory. (I found it needed a little practice to get the finger coordination right.)

    For earlier versions of Android it gets messy, apparently. For example, see this.
    11-12-2013 09:34 AM
  24. Bert Coules's Avatar
    Thanks, I'll give that a try.
    11-12-2013 06:39 PM
  25. Seronac's Avatar
    Another way to get full compatibility is with an app called CloudOn. It requires an Internet connection to work, but it's very close to the actual MS Office experience.
    For storage and file transfer, I recommend Google Drive or Dropbox. They're both easy to use and convenient.
    Other good file transfer options are ES File Explorer and Airdroid.
    Try them all, it's fun to play with new apps! :-)

    Posted via Android Central App on Nexus 7
    11-14-2013 12:04 AM
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