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  1. Aquila's Avatar
    it's like saying which place has the best burgers, there's many good choices.
    "many good choices" doesn't answer the question of, which has the best.

    And with the cost totaling $1100, kinda hard to understand.
    $950 for 128 GB version, $850 for 64 GB version. You're just under 30% over on your estimate.

    Fast software updates at the cost of many other features?
    No, fast updates is one of the perks. Not the only one. And at the cost of what other features?

    More to the point, we know YOU don't care at all about privacy and security, but for those of us for which it is a top priority... which features would you say we ought to think are more important? An SD card? It's LESS secure, therefore a detraction. See where I'm going with this?
    10-20-2017 05:07 PM
  2. Aquila's Avatar
    Im not clear what your objective is. Android is about choices and we made ours intelligently knowing in advance what we are gaining and giving up. Most of us here used a thought process and came to the decision on our own. You are free to do the same. What I can't understand is why you can't fathom that we are entitled to make those choices even if you don't agree. You've stated your case in many different forums about features you like over and over. We've stated our case. Enjoy your V20....it's a great phone and it has most of the features you'd die for. You can keep it for many years because you can buy extra batteries so you should be fine until the software is no longer updated and or begins to lag.
    Something, something, be together, not the same?

    Or Something something, want what you like, buy what you want, love what you bought?
    10-20-2017 05:08 PM
  3. anon(10271520)'s Avatar
    Fast software updates at the cost of many other features? Not really that important, I've never experienced any problems on a device that never updated, actually it functions better with original software. Many phones nowadays have good cameras, it's like saying which place has the best burgers, there's many good choices. And with the cost totaling $1100, kinda hard to understand.
    Why do you and some others keep assuming people are paying over $1000 for a Pixel? Please stop that silly assumption because it is so wrong.
    10-20-2017 05:11 PM
  4. bhatech's Avatar
    Why do you and some others keep assuming people are paying over $1000 for a Pixel? Please stop that silly assumption because it is so wrong.
    Well I did pay above $1000 for my 128 GB Pixel 2 XL in US .. not that I'm complaining I love the phone, but the higher end model does cost above $1000 after taxes depending how much your tax rate is.

    10-20-2017 05:44 PM
  5. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Well I did pay above $1000 for my 128 GB Pixel 2 XL in US .. not that I'm complaining I love the phone, but the higher end model does cost above $1000 after taxes depending how much your tax rate is.

    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...77f11f8a06.jpg
    That's OK.. it's worth what you and I are willing to pay
    10-20-2017 05:49 PM
  6. Jeremiah Bonds's Avatar
    My current situation with the G6 is precisely why I want updates quickly.


    I forgot about the front facing speakers.. Wow, and the vanity of the selfie camera. :-)
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    10-20-2017 05:54 PM
  7. flyingkytez's Avatar
    "many good choices" doesn't answer the question of, which has the best.
    "Best camera" is subjective. Example, everyone likes the 12MP cameras, I don't however because when I crop the image, it looks pixelated. I prefer the 16MP.
    10-20-2017 05:55 PM
  8. Aquila's Avatar
    "Best camera" is subjective. Example, everyone likes the 12MP cameras, I don't however because when I crop the image, it looks pixelated. I prefer the 16MP.
    Best is only subjective because you are intending to use the word best as if it means favorite or best for you and not talking about the objective capabilities of the camera itself. If you say what is the best camera for you then that would be something where your opinion would be what is being sought. If we say what is the best overall camera then we are saying which camera is the most capable of producing the best results. So if we try to avoid things like using best to mean favorite then it's a lot easier to avoid these misunderstandings.
    Jeremiah Bonds and Wiley_11 like this.
    10-20-2017 05:57 PM
  9. flyingkytez's Avatar

    More to the point, we know YOU don't care at all about privacy and security, but for those of us for which it is a top priority... which features would you say we ought to think are more important? An SD card? It's LESS secure, therefore a detraction. See where I'm going with this?
    I never once in my life ever gotten my phone or PC hacked. My cloud accounts have been hacked before (TMobile, TaxSlayer, Equifax, etc) security updates would have done nothing. The cloud is much more vulnerable. Celebrities have gotten their iCloud infamously hacked. Again, nothing to do with phone itself.
    10-20-2017 06:01 PM
  10. djepperson1's Avatar
    I think it's simple for me. Experience of everyday use Trump's hardware is it perfect all in a mind's eye. this is the perfect phone for me great hardware and software no worries for the next three years (if I keep it that long) if the software will be updated
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    10-20-2017 06:03 PM
  11. Jeremiah Bonds's Avatar
    The megapixel thing again?
    10-20-2017 06:03 PM
  12. Jeremy8000's Avatar
    I never once in my life ever gotten my phone or PC hacked. My cloud accounts have been hacked before (TMobile, TaxSlayer, Equifax, etc) security updates would have done nothing. The cloud is much more vulnerable. Celebrities have gotten their iCloud infamously hacked. Again, nothing to do with phone itself.
    If you don't think security matters... Think again.

    https://www.wired.com/story/broadpwn...y-ios-android/

    Now... Who do you think is going to develop the fix to eliminate the vulnerability? And which devices will be able to install that security right away? Lastly, when's the last time your phones got a security update (the kind that Pixel users are guaranteed monthly for two years in the past, and three years with the Pixel 2's)?
    10-20-2017 06:09 PM
  13. dsignori's Avatar
    How is IP67 low? It's literally the exact same rating as IP68 with a difference of 50 centimeters. Given that phones are never meant to be exposed to water, unless you're
    dropping your phone into a bath tub or puddle that's nearly as tall as you are, it's impossible to ever have a realistic situation where the different would matter.
    Exactly. I am thrilled with IP67. I'm not going swimming with it.
    10-20-2017 06:26 PM
  14. flyingkytez's Avatar

    More to the point, we know YOU don't care at all about privacy and security, but for those of us for which it is a top priority... which features would you say we ought to think are more important? An SD card? It's LESS secure, therefore a detraction. See where I'm going with this?
    I never once in my life ever gotten my phone or PC hacked. My cloud accounts have been hacked before (TMobile, TaxSlayer, Equifax, etc) security updates would have done nothing. The cloud is much more vulnerable. Celebrities have gotten their iCloud infamously hacked. Again, nothing to do with phone itself.
    10-20-2017 06:32 PM
  15. flyingkytez's Avatar
    Exactly. I am thrilled with IP67. I'm not going swimming with it.
    Can't take it to the beach, gotta use a ziplock bag. Why not just make it IP68? Ain't that hard, just lazy.
    10-20-2017 06:35 PM
  16. Aquila's Avatar
    I never once in my life ever gotten my phone or PC hacked. My cloud accounts have been hacked before (TMobile, TaxSlayer, Equifax, etc) security updates would have done nothing. The cloud is much more vulnerable. Celebrities have gotten their iCloud infamously hacked. Again, nothing to do with phone itself.
    Right, like I said. You don't understand or care about privacy and security. Not a big deal, just different priority choices.
    10-20-2017 06:39 PM
  17. Aquila's Avatar
    Can't take it to the beach, gotta use a ziplock bag. Why not just make it IP68? Ain't that hard, just lazy.
    Because you can't take ip68 to the beach either. Neither rating protects against waves or saltwater.

    The ratings are exactly the same for all practical intents and purposes. There's no difference in any real world scenario.
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    10-20-2017 06:41 PM
  18. openwheelracing's Avatar
    Come now there are better things to trash Pixel 2 with, the troll here is doing a terrible job. IP67? Really?

    My Submariner goes 300m deep in the ocean. Wait til your phone can do that.
    10-20-2017 06:46 PM
  19. bhatech's Avatar
    I may be wrong didn't you have similar thread in Note 8 or something trying to berate people who bought that? Looks same here in Pixel. Does it really matter to you that much what people do with their money? I mean every one values different things, not only tech but in general related to lifestyle. It's generally difficult to relate why someone does something because you don't do that. Different people, different choices and lifestyle. This debate will never end and will drag on forever for every new device.
    10-20-2017 06:55 PM
  20. flyingkytez's Avatar
    The megapixel thing again?
    Just took this right now with my V20. Used 16MP, then changed to 12MP Try it yourself, if you even still have a smartphone that has a 16MP. It matters to me because I take landscape pictures. Again subjective to what's "better".

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    16MP = 4:3 Aspect Ratio, 4656x3492 resolution

    12MP = 16:9 Aspect Ratio, 4656x2620 resolution
    10-20-2017 06:59 PM
  21. Aquila's Avatar
    Just took this right now with my V20. Used 16MP, then changed to 12MP Try it yourself, if you even still have a smartphone that has a 16MP. It matters to me because I take landscape pictures. Again subjective to what's "better".

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    Whoops sorry that's not how megapixels work.
    10-20-2017 07:01 PM
  22. flyingkytez's Avatar
    JerryRig - I don't plan to take a knife / bend / put a lighter to my phone. I think I will be fine. All my previous phones have been fine
    Can't wear slim or skinny jeans. Only baggy pants like the 90's again. Slim pants will crack it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but think the new styles today are slim pants.

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    10-20-2017 07:06 PM
  23. Jeremiah Bonds's Avatar
    Just took this right now with my V20. Used 16MP, then changed to 12MP Try it yourself, if you even still have a smartphone that has a 16MP. It matters to me because I take landscape pictures. Again subjective to what's "better".

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    16MP = 4:3 Aspect Ratio, 4656x3492 resolution

    12MP = 16:9 Aspect Ratio, 4656x2620 resolution
    I'm pretty sure the G6 is slightly better.. In auto mode that is.. And it made out at 13mp. When I switched from the V20 to the G6, the camera is what actually helped me.
    10-20-2017 07:09 PM
  24. dsignori's Avatar
    Slim pants will crack it.
    I like how you can say this with a straight face. Impressive
    10-20-2017 07:09 PM
  25. flyingkytez's Avatar
    Whoops sorry that's not how megapixels work.
    Okay then why do images look pixilated/blurry when zoomed in? It's what I noticed with my previous Samsung S7 and S8 vs the old S6 16MP. I hated it. Again, my point is "best camera" is subjective. I'd rather have dual cameras with an addition 13MP wide, or a secondary telephoto portrait lens than nothing at all.
    10-20-2017 07:11 PM
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