12-21-2017 06:54 PM
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  1. VivaTerlingua's Avatar
    Purchased a Pixel 2 XL a few days ago, coming from an iPhone 6s plus. So far I'm not seeing any reason to keep it. The main reason I decided to try Android is that I'm deep into the Google ecosystem and thought Android would improve my Google experience over the iPhone and I'm not seeing it yet. I use Gmail for home, we run Gsuite at work as our main only/office app and use Gmail for our email. I've got 4 Google Home speakers at home and use Google Play for my music. But I've not seen any difference in the way I use any Google services (other than squeeze to bring up Assistant) so I'll probably go back to the iPhone so I don't have to purchase Android versions of all my iPhone apps and transfer the data.

    So can anybody tell me what I am missing? What specifically can I do on Android with regards to Google services that I can't do on the iPhone? Not looking to get into and Android vs. iOS debate and I don't need any fanboys telling me I have a character flaw because I don't want to spend hours customizing my phone. I'm just looking to find out how I can leverage Google services better with the Pixel 2 than I could an iPhone.
    12-08-2017 11:28 AM
  2. Dano1200r's Avatar
    Purchased a Pixel 2 XL a few days ago, coming from an iPhone 6s plus. So far I'm not seeing any reason to keep it. The main reason I decided to try Android is that I'm deep into the Google ecosystem and thought Android would improve my Google experience over the iPhone and I'm not seeing it yet. I use Gmail for home, we run Gsuite at work as our main only/office app and use Gmail for our email. I've got 4 Google Home speakers at home and use Google Play for my music. But I've not seen any difference in the way I use any Google services (other than squeeze to bring up Assistant) so I'll probably go back to the iPhone so I don't have to purchase Android versions of all my iPhone apps and transfer the data.

    So can anybody tell me what I am missing? What specifically can I do on Android with regards to Google services that I can't do on the iPhone? Not looking to get into and Android vs. iOS debate and I don't need any fanboys telling me I have a character flaw because I don't want to spend hours customizing my phone. I'm just looking to find out how I can leverage Google services better with the Pixel 2 than I could an iPhone.
    If you're deep into it, you know that I your phone can interact with your smarthome features. I'd more ask myself why go to a product that locks you into 1 type of product line as opposed to what you have now. But, some people like the apple.
    12-08-2017 11:54 AM
  3. VivaTerlingua's Avatar
    If you're deep into it, you know that I your phone can interact with your smarthome features. I'd more ask myself why go to a product that locks you into 1 type of product line as opposed to what you have now. But, some people like the apple.
    Again, I'm looking for specifics, not Apple bashing. I like both Google and Apple. I could access smarthome features with the iPhone as well. There is a Google Home app for iOS. What can I do with the Pixel that I couldn't do with the iPhone?
    12-08-2017 12:02 PM
  4. Dano1200r's Avatar
    If you are able to do everything you needed on the apple and can return the new phone, I would. I'm not bashing apple. Don't care.
    12-08-2017 12:14 PM
  5. alexmartins's Avatar
    Again, I'm looking for specifics, not Apple bashing. I like both Google and Apple. I could access smarthome features with the iPhone as well. There is a Google Home app for iOS. What can I do with the Pixel that I couldn't do with the iPhone?
    Absolutely nothing. The camera is better though.
    12-08-2017 12:15 PM
  6. Almeuit's Avatar
    Again, I'm looking for specifics, not Apple bashing. I like both Google and Apple. I could access smarthome features with the iPhone as well. There is a Google Home app for iOS. What can I do with the Pixel that I couldn't do with the iPhone?
    Really nothing. Using Android doesn't grant you some secret features the iPhone doesn't have -- it just functions differently. Such as I prefer notifications on Android any day compared to iPhone and I prefer Assistant being built into the OS and not just an app from the app store that I have to launch like any old app.

    So while you don't want an Android VS iPhone debate that is really all this will be since functionality wise you can do all the things with Google Services on iPhone that you could on Android. Google wants it that way. It is just a preference on how you want to use said services.
    12-08-2017 12:23 PM
  7. chanchan05's Avatar
    Not updated on Apple, but the only thing I can think of is just the ability to set Google stuff as default. Like default to Google Assistant instead of Siri. I think Apple now allows you to use Chrome and Gboard as default? Or not? Going Pixel also means having Google Now on the leftmost homescreen as opposed to Spotlight.

    Apart from that, I'd think this would degenerate to iOS vs Android.
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    12-08-2017 12:29 PM
  8. anon(10092459)'s Avatar
    Really nothing. Using Android doesn't grant you some secret features the iPhone doesn't have -- it just functions differently. Such as I prefer notifications on Android any day compared to iPhone and I prefer Assistant being built into the OS and not just an app from the app store that I have to launch like any old app.

    So while you don't want an Android VS iPhone debate that is really all this will be since functionality wise you can do all the things with Google Services on iPhone that you could on Android. Google wants it that way. It is just a preference on how you want to use said services.
    Agreed.

    OP, I think you need to look to the Virtual Assistants for your answer. If you're that deep into google services, Siri will never function as well as GA with Google ecosystem. Siri's natural default is Apple services, which makes sense. Apple doesn't like or want a lot of third party access on it's platform and that's okay if you're deep in their ecosystem.

    Voice commands are the future today and GA is the smartest assistant of them all. If your preference is to open and close the app on the iPhone, you'll probably be happier with their hardware.
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    12-08-2017 12:52 PM
  9. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Purchased a Pixel 2 XL a few days ago, coming from an iPhone 6s plus. So far I'm not seeing any reason to keep it. The main reason I decided to try Android is that I'm deep into the Google ecosystem and thought Android would improve my Google experience over the iPhone and I'm not seeing it yet. I use Gmail for home, we run Gsuite at work as our main only/office app and use Gmail for our email. I've got 4 Google Home speakers at home and use Google Play for my music. But I've not seen any difference in the way I use any Google services (other than squeeze to bring up Assistant) so I'll probably go back to the iPhone so I don't have to purchase Android versions of all my iPhone apps and transfer the data.

    So can anybody tell me what I am missing? What specifically can I do on Android with regards to Google services that I can't do on the iPhone? Not looking to get into and Android vs. iOS debate and I don't need any fanboys telling me I have a character flaw because I don't want to spend hours customizing my phone. I'm just looking to find out how I can leverage Google services better with the Pixel 2 than I could an iPhone.
    Only you can answer this question
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    12-08-2017 01:04 PM
  10. cbreze's Avatar
    I like both systems and also switch between the two. They are both excellent for my needs, however I give Android and my Pixel 2 the bigger edge for the sheer limitless customization options. It's a shame IMO that Apple won't even let me put an icon where I choose, or leave a portion of the screen icon free so I can see my wallpaper better. Then the icons are fine but why do I need to have the title of the icon underneath? It's like I'm to stupid to know which is which. Doesn't make for a clean look.
    That's the main reason I lean more toward Android. But not bashing Apple at all (except lack of customization) or I wouldn't be the owner of an Iphone.
    I do find one thing Apple has allowed lately is Google apps like Gmail, maps and a bunch of others and that's a big improvement.
    One more thing worth mentioning is if you use your phone for work as well as play then there is a whole new set of criteria involved. My phones are for play and life stuff so alot of what others may need in an OS I don't.
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    12-08-2017 01:08 PM
  11. VivaTerlingua's Avatar
    Agreed.


    Voice commands are the future today and GA is the smartest assistant of them all. If your preference is to open and close the app on the iPhone, you'll probably be happier with their hardware.
    Agreed that Google Assistant is better than Siri, I rarely used Siri. I don't use Assistant a lot, but am trying to get in the habit of squeezing the phone and using it to see how useful it is to me. Wish I could try the phone for a month rather than 14 days.
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    12-08-2017 01:49 PM
  12. KillerQ's Avatar
    Try doing tasks via your voice via Google assistant. It works great. Performs much better than Siri, in all respects.
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    12-08-2017 02:53 PM
  13. DreamSTi's Avatar
    Some people prefer iOS, some Android. Its all about what YOU want / like. Not sure what you're trying to accomplish with this thread.
    12-08-2017 03:01 PM
  14. VivaTerlingua's Avatar
    Some people prefer iOS, some Android. Its all about what YOU want / like. Not sure what you're trying to accomplish with this thread.
    I'm trying to make sure I give the phone a fair trial before I return it. I want to make sure I'm not missing something about it.
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    12-08-2017 03:19 PM
  15. anon(10092459)'s Avatar
    Agreed that Google Assistant is better than Siri, I rarely used Siri. I don't use Assistant a lot, but am trying to get in the habit of squeezing the phone and using it to see how useful it is to me. Wish I could try the phone for a month rather than 14 days.
    IMO, this is where you might find your answer. I recommend you push GA and work it to it's fullest while you have the phone. Engage it ad nauseam, since your trial time is tight. Ask it for all kind of information even if it isn't relevant to you right now.. Like prices for flights or something. Use the Lens feature in GA to the point you're sick of seeing the results.

    I use GA constantly, even if it misses I give full feedback so it can improve. For example, I have a colleague traveling in Morocco. I'm in the States. I asked GA for the time in Morocco, got the proper time, then asked GA to send a text to my colleague with WhatsApp since he's traveling. Executed flawlessly while I was making coffee.

    Now that might not seem like a ground breaking deal, but do something like that a few times a day for a couple of weeks and your habits change. With the way things are going, IMO the Assistant will be the new center and point of engagement.
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    12-08-2017 03:24 PM
  16. raqball's Avatar
    Hard to say really as you know your usage best OP..

    Somethings will be better on Android and some better on iOS. It's really a matter of personal preference. I think Android has the benefits of a better assistant, customization and device options.

    You also need to consider how deeply are you embedded in the Apple ecosystem. Do you have a Mac? Apple TV? A ton of paid apps, movies, games, music ect on Apple?

    I prefer Android but I don't hate on iOS.. iOS is fine for most people but many stick with the iPhone becase they are so deeply entrenched in the ecosystem.

    Both have pluses and minuses so really it boils down to what you want.

    For me Android has the following advantages:

    1. Assistant is much better than Siri
    2. Customization
    3. Device options from a variety of manfacturers

    Good luck with whatever you decide.
    12-08-2017 03:37 PM
  17. osubeavs728's Avatar
    I'm not sure if the integration of apps on iOS is the same (doesn't seem like it based on my iPad usage). But I rely on the Google integration of my gsuite life to automatically add events to my calendars based off emails, ability to use GA to set reminders/shopping lists/ etc and have those seamlessly mesh with gmaps, I use my feed a ton to look at daily events, news feeds and such.
    12-08-2017 03:46 PM
  18. VivaTerlingua's Avatar
    Hard to say really as you know your usage best OP..

    Somethings will be better on Android and some better on iOS. It's really a matter of personal preference. I think Android has the benefits of a better assistant, customization and device options.

    You also need to consider how deeply are you embedded in the Apple ecosystem. Do you have a Mac? Apple TV? A ton of paid apps, movies, games, music ect on Apple?

    I prefer Android but I don't hate on iOS.. iOS is fine for most people but many stick with the iPhone becase they are so deeply entrenched in the ecosystem.

    Both have pluses and minuses so really it boils down to what you want.

    For me Android has the following advantages:

    1. Assistant is much better than Siri
    2. Customization
    3. Device options from a variety of manfacturers

    Good luck with whatever you decide.
    I have a Mac at home and hate it. I wish I had never switched from a PC. Because of this it's not integrated at all with my phone, so no loss there. However, I do have an iPad as well and would miss the integration with the phone.
    12-08-2017 04:12 PM
  19. VivaTerlingua's Avatar
    I'm not sure if the integration of apps on iOS is the same (doesn't seem like it based on my iPad usage). But I rely on the Google integration of my gsuite life to automatically add events to my calendars based off emails, ability to use GA to set reminders/shopping lists/ etc and have those seamlessly mesh with gmaps, I use my feed a ton to look at daily events, news feeds and such.
    The events are already automatically added to my calendars by the gmail server regardless of which phone I am using. When I open an event on my iPhone using the Google calendar app (which I use as my calendar app on the iPhone) I can tap on the location and it opens in Google maps.

    BTW, Google calendar integration on Assistant sucks. I put most of my events on my work calendar but use my home account for Assistant and it can't access my work calendar even though my work calendar is shared with my home calendar.
    12-08-2017 04:19 PM
  20. Gayle Lynn's Avatar
    I like to learn and know. Why I own and use more than one platform.

    The Note 8 is everything in a sm artphone, and using DeX.

    iOS is having a bad year. The iPhone X is mo re of Galaxy S8 than anything, and small but heavy, while the Note is next year's iPhone X Plus.

    Defaults. My choice. DeX dock. Notifications. Gestures. Detested the home button Touch ID.

    I would have gotten Pixel 2 XL but wasn't compelling. The Essential One was. BlackBerry wss not my cup of tea after trying PRIV and DTEK50 and 60. I get bored easily, more so with iPhones (5S, two 6S Plus, an 8).

    I do not like a walled garden but I have used Mac for 30 years solid. Built some pc's along the way too.

    Phone junky former mainframe, Mac, Windows hobbyist
    12-08-2017 04:22 PM
  21. dmark44's Avatar
    Since you use Google services, you will probably find them more integrated with notifications, assistant and the Google Now page. Reminders and calendar items automatically added from your emails in Gmail.

    Over time, the Google ios apps have become more full-featured, so you probably don't miss much as far as app-specific featurea between platforms anymore.

    I have an iPad and an Android phone. Personally the notifications on Android work better for me. I also like the do not disturb mode. I also like how meetings on my calendar to automatically silence the phone during the meeting times. My wife relies on the hold switch on her iPhone and is always forgetting to turn her ringer back on .

    I like using apps like Sound Profile to automate my settings around my work schedule. And I use another app (Trigger) to automate sounds and settings further for Driving, workouts, etc.

    I am also liking the little picture-in-picture style Google Maps navigation window so you can still see your turn by turn directions when you leave the maps app.

    If you use Amazon, you will notice you can actually buy/rent digital content like Kindle books, music, etc directly on Android apps. Apple will make you leave their device and come back to view it.

    Lastly Siri has her plusses, but Google Assistant knows me better and is more capable in web searches.
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    12-08-2017 04:39 PM
  22. raqball's Avatar
    I have a Mac at home and hate it. I wish I had never switched from a PC. Because of this it's not integrated at all with my phone, so no loss there. However, I do have an iPad as well and would miss the integration with the phone.
    Yeah integration is a big deal for me as well. I strictly use Chromebooks (currently using the Pixelbook) and I am also a Project Fi user.. I use Hangouts as my SMS on Fi because I can sync them up to the Pixelbook, respond from the Pixelbook ect.

    I also like that everything I do on the phone syncs up to the computer and vise-versa..
    12-08-2017 04:53 PM
  23. osubeavs728's Avatar
    BTW, Google calendar integration on Assistant sucks. I put most of my events on my work calendar but use my home account for Assistant and it can't access my work calendar even though my work calendar is shared with my home calendar.
    Different accounts indicate different user profiles. It doesn't suck, it's just not supposed to work that way. That's why you can set up different defaults and settings based on the Gmail account.
    12-08-2017 05:06 PM
  24. VivaTerlingua's Avatar
    Yeah integration is a big deal for me as well. I strictly use Chromebooks (currently using the Pixelbook) and I am also a Project Fi user.. I use Hangouts as my SMS on Fi because I can sync them up to the Pixelbook, respond from the Pixelbook ect.

    I also like that everything I do on the phone syncs up to the computer and vise-versa..
    I have a Chromebook as well but there's a few programs I need a regular laptop for (Lightroom, Quicken, and NSBasic (aprogramming language)), so I'm not using the Chromebook exclusively. It's more of an experiment for me.

    Although Android apps for the phone have mostly caught up with apps for the iPhone, the same is far from true when it comes to tablets. So, I can't ever see abandoning the iPad.

    Another tough thing for me is Facetime. Almost all my friends and family have iPhones and it's not really practical to ask them to add another app to just do video calls with me. Not that I do a lot of Facetime, but it is one more thing to deal with if I switch.
    12-08-2017 05:22 PM
  25. VivaTerlingua's Avatar
    Different accounts indicate different user profiles. It doesn't suck, it's just not supposed to work that way. That's why you can set up different defaults and settings based on the Gmail account.
    When I ask Assistant or Home about my day it ought to be able to tell me the events on my shared calendars.
    12-08-2017 05:30 PM
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