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  1. Jimmy_W's Avatar
    I plan to get a Pixel 2 to replace my Moto Z Force. I like the Moto, but it isn't entirely compatible with my new uConnect. I don't care about camera quality. Battery life is important, but I like a larger screen, like on my Moto. The Verizon sales rep suggested the Pixel 2, citing screen issues, like lines and streaking, with the XL. The Pixel is cheaper, too. If anyone can give me some tips or point me to a link with a good comparison, I'll be grateful. Thanks..
    12-13-2017 06:14 PM
  2. PowrDroid's Avatar
    I plan to get a Pixel 2 to replace my Moto Z Force. I like the Moto, but it isn't entirely compatible with my new uConnect. I don't care about camera quality. Battery life is important, but I like a larger screen, like on my Moto. The Verizon sales rep suggested the Pixel 2, citing screen issues, like lines and streaking, with the XL. The Pixel is cheaper, too. If anyone can give me some tips or point me to a link with a good comparison, I'll be grateful. Thanks..
    If battery life and bigger screen is important it must be the Pixel 2 XL. I came from a Moto Droid Turbo and the battery is better on the Pixel 2 XL.

    Battery life test results:
    https://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3


    As a Ram 1500 owner with UConnect 8.4 I'm curious as to what is incompatible about UConnect with your Z Force?
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    12-13-2017 06:40 PM
  3. C5Longhorn's Avatar
    Agree with Powedroid, if screen size and battery are most important features, go with 2 XL.
    12-13-2017 06:50 PM
  4. Jimmy_W's Avatar
    If battery life and bigger screen is important it must be the Pixel 2 XL. I came from a Moto Droid Turbo and the battery is better on the Pixel 2 XL.

    Battery life test results:
    https://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3


    As a Ram 1500 owner with UConnect 8.4 I'm curious as to what is incompatible about UConnect with your Z Force?
    Thanks. I have an '18 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the uConnect 4C UAQ NAV. This unit offers two methods of texting. The first allows you to send a new SMS or a reply using one of a dozen canned phrases. The second allows you to do so using free-form text through voice recognition (VR). For the most part, the option depends on the phone, which must support MAP in any case. Obviously, using VR is preferable. My Moto is not compatible to the extent that I can't send a new SMS using free-form text through VR. To use the typical SMS features, one must use the Android app and connect the phone through USB. I think that's absurd, as you may as well just throw the phone on the seat and use the Moto app. From what I understand, the Pixel 2s and the Samsung Galaxy 8 will work with VR. Folks I know don't care for the Samsung, which is much more expensive at Verizon. So, I'm inclined to get a Pixel, though I'm concerned about the negative comments about the scree.
    12-13-2017 09:24 PM
  5. sixty_four's Avatar
    Battery life is important, but I like a larger screen
    If these 2 things are high priorities, Pixel 2 XL all the way.
    12-13-2017 09:35 PM
  6. PowrDroid's Avatar
    Thanks. I have an '18 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the uConnect 4C UAQ NAV. This unit offers two methods of texting. The first allows you to send a new SMS or a reply using one of a dozen canned phrases. The second allows you to do so using free-form text through voice recognition (VR). For the most part, the option depends on the phone, which must support MAP in any case. Obviously, using VR is preferable. My Moto is not compatible to the extent that I can't send a new SMS using free-form text through VR. To use the typical SMS features, one must use the Android app and connect the phone through USB. I think that's absurd, as you may as well just throw the phone on the seat and use the Moto app. From what I understand, the Pixel 2s and the Samsung Galaxy 8 will work with VR. Folks I know don't care for the Samsung, which is much more expensive at Verizon. So, I'm inclined to get a Pixel, though I'm concerned about the negative comments about the scree.
    I know with my Droid Turbo I could not send a 'free form' text using voice recognition unless I signed up for the UConnect app. I never signed up because after the free 6 month trial period it is a paid monthly service. I've been using the canned responses.

    I'll attempt to send an "uncanned" text with my Pixel next time I'm in my truck.
    12-13-2017 09:37 PM
  7. Jimmy_W's Avatar
    If these 2 things are high priorities, Pixel 2 XL all the way.
    That's odd, as according to Verizon:

    Pixel 2 XL
    Stand by Time Up to 5.3 Days
    Usage Time Up to 26.7 Hours

    Pixel 2
    Stand by Time Up to 16 Days
    Usage Time Up to 25.37 Hours

    They're saying that Pixel 2 is much better, at least in this category. Am I missing something?
    12-13-2017 09:49 PM
  8. Jimmy_W's Avatar
    I know with my Droid Turbo I could not send a 'free form' text using voice recognition unless I signed up for the UConnect app. I never signed up because after the free 6 month trial period it is a paid monthly service. I've been using the canned responses.

    I'll attempt to send an "uncanned" text with my Pixel next time I'm in my truck.
    Thanks!! That would be great, as I'm hoping to get a Pixel 2 tomorrow. If you go to https://www.mopar.com/en-us/care/bluetooth-pairing.html you can check out almost any phone for compatibility. I may have to renew my uConnect and/or Sirius Guardian account after my one-year trial, but I kind of have a system of constantly renewing at the special promotional price.
    12-13-2017 09:58 PM
  9. jjinal's Avatar
    As a Ram 1500 owner with UConnect 8.4 I'm curious as to what is incompatible about UConnect with your Z Force?
    Let's see that RAM!

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    12-13-2017 10:03 PM
  10. PowrDroid's Avatar
    That's odd, as according to Verizon:

    Pixel 2 XL
    Stand by Time Up to 5.3 Days
    Usage Time Up to 26.7 Hours

    Pixel 2
    Stand by Time Up to 16 Days
    Usage Time Up to 25.37 Hours

    They're saying that Pixel 2 is much better, at least in this category. Am I missing something?
    Stand by time is how long the battery will last if it is not used for anything--no texts, no calls, no internet browsing, etc. Basically the phone is powered on and that's it.

    The Pixel 2 XL has 1.3 more hours of useful battery life than the Pixel 2.
    12-13-2017 10:04 PM
  11. Jimmy_W's Avatar
    Stand by time is how long the battery will last if it is not used for anything--no texts, no calls, no internet browsing, etc. Basically the phone is powered on and that's it.

    The Pixel 2 XL has 1.3 more hours of useful battery life than the Pixel 2.
    Ah, I see, Thank you for the clarification!
    12-13-2017 10:08 PM
  12. PowrDroid's Avatar
    Let's see that RAM!
    This pic of my truck was taken after a day of clay bar cleaning, full wax job, and ultimate detailing.


    Help me decide: Pixel 2 or Pixel 2 XL-claywax_zoom_072615_lores.jpg
    12-13-2017 10:10 PM
  13. PowrDroid's Avatar
    Thanks!! That would be great, as I'm hoping to get a Pixel 2 tomorrow. If you go to https://www.mopar.com/en-us/care/bluetooth-pairing.html you can check out almost any phone for compatibility.
    Does not list Pixel 2 as an option, only goes up to original Pixel XL at least for my 2015. In any event my Pixel 2 XL pairs with my Ram 1500.
    12-13-2017 10:17 PM
  14. Jimmy_W's Avatar
    Does not list Pixel 2 as an option, only goes up to original Pixel XL at least for my 2015. In any event my Pixel 2 XL pairs with my Ram 1500.
    Thanks. Yes, same for my Jeep. However, I wouldn't think that Pixel 2 upgrade would offer fewer features or less compatibility. Were you able to send a free form text message?
    12-13-2017 10:22 PM
  15. PowrDroid's Avatar
    Thanks. Yes, same for my Jeep. However, I wouldn't think that Pixel 2 upgrade would offer fewer features or less compatibility. Were you able to send a free form text message?
    Haven't tried it yet. Probably not until tomorrow morning. It's only 24 degrees here right now. I'm not going outside to a cold vehicle. Sorry!
    12-13-2017 10:24 PM
  16. Jimmy_W's Avatar
    Thanks! No worries! It's up to 24° here. Been in the teens for a week.
    12-13-2017 10:48 PM
  17. sixty_four's Avatar
    Ah, I see, Thank you for the clarification!
    Battery life is very important to me but I also like smaller phones. I wanted to go with the XL because of the larger battery capacity but after 5 minutes of fiddling with both of them, I ordered the smaller one. It may not get as much screen on time as the bigger XL but I don't have any problems with the battery getting me through an entire day.
    12-13-2017 10:51 PM
  18. raqball's Avatar
    Off topic but here is my sons 2017 RAM 3500 Dually..
    Attached Thumbnails Help me decide: Pixel 2 or Pixel 2 XL-25301629.jpeg  
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    12-13-2017 10:55 PM
  19. Jimmy_W's Avatar
    While I'm thinking about it, the Galaxy S8 or S8+ also are options, but the prices are rather steep.
    12-13-2017 11:37 PM
  20. PowrDroid's Avatar
    While I'm thinking about it, the Galaxy S8 or S8+ also are options, but the prices are rather steep.
    Battery life is not as good as either of the Pixel 2's.
    12-13-2017 11:42 PM
  21. Jimmy_W's Avatar
    Thanks! Yeah, but for the screen issues that some reviewers and the Verizon rep mentioned, I'm leaning mostly toward the Pixel 2 XL.
    12-13-2017 11:50 PM
  22. jjinal's Avatar
    This pic of my truck was taken after a day of clay bar cleaning, full wax job, and ultimate detailing.


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    Sharp!!
    12-14-2017 06:32 AM
  23. jjinal's Avatar
    Off topic but here is my sons 2017 RAM 3500 Dually..
    That's some serious truck!!
    12-14-2017 06:32 AM
  24. PowrDroid's Avatar
    That's some serious truck!!
    Yeah, that thing is a beast!
    12-14-2017 11:37 AM
  25. PowrDroid's Avatar
    Thanks. Yes, same for my Jeep. However, I wouldn't think that Pixel 2 upgrade would offer fewer features or less compatibility. Were you able to send a free form text message?
    I could not do it in my vehicle. I have to register for UConnect Access, which I did. However, now I must run my vehicle for about 20 minutes in order to get the software downloaded/updated. I haven't had an opportunity to do that yet.

    It looks like when you pair your phone you might have an option to select Message Access Protocol. Apparently if your phone has this you should be able to send "free form" text messages. I don't recall when I paired my Pixel 2 XL a week ago, if it gave me that option. I might delete it and pair it again and see if I get that option.

    I would assume the Pixel 2 XL would have MAP, since it's the latest and greatest phone running the latest version of Android OS.

    Another possibility is that my UConnect system is too old to support MAP (Message Access Protocol), but your system is brand new so it might work with your Jeep.

    See this YouTube video:



    Also, here is a link to a pdf file. Under requirements it says "Vehicle must be registered with an active UConnect Access Advantage subscription for free form text response to work":
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...UZF8DfVDYew2IG
    12-14-2017 02:16 PM
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