03-22-2018 04:57 PM
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  1. slaskwroclaw18's Avatar
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    I got the Pixel 2 XL a litlle over 2 week ago and love it. I spend the majority of my day on WI-FI and on a good day can get 4, once 5 hours of SOT. But on days where I work from and home and then commute to center city Philly for class in the evening, my SOT and stanby time seems to suffer. The phone lasts me through the day but I would figure if I am not using my screen to much I should still have a lot of power left.

    My Pixel 2 XL is on the Android 8.1 and I have the March security updates. I am using both the stable versions of Google and Chrome and my Google Play Service is at 12.5.18 Stable. I turned off adaptive display and keep my screen at 25% brightness. My location is always on High Accuracy and I keep bluetooth and NFC on always. The only time my bluetooth is connected is when I wear my Pixel Buds for ~1.5 hours during my train ride down to the city both ways.
    03-16-2018 12:01 PM
  2. TraderGary's Avatar
    When you are on the train or whenever there is no WiFi available, your Pixel is constantly searching for and not finding a connection. Constantly searching for and not finding a connection will cause battery drain. You might try turning off WiFi during those times.
    03-16-2018 12:19 PM
  3. B. Diddy's Avatar
    It'd be helpful to see what your cell signal strength is like throughout the day. You'd have to install an app like GSam Battery Monitor to get that on a Pixel 2 XL. And here's how to attach a screenshot to your post, without having to link to Imgur: http://forums.androidcentral.com/gen...d-central.html
    03-16-2018 02:47 PM
  4. slaskwroclaw18's Avatar
    Hmm, I would argue that I am in an area of good connection and even, I am only on LTE for ~3 hours of the day. I will try turning off Wi-Fi as well.
    03-16-2018 03:00 PM
  5. Andrew_404's Avatar
    Honestly, my battery life with the Feb update was really bad. The only cure after speaking with Google tech support was do a backup and, a full factory reset with a clean start. My battery life majorly improved. Now I have the March update and haven't seen such a rapid drop like the previous update which is good.

    Look at my post battery drain for the Feb update in this forum. Google tech support explains how to put the phone in Safe mode to check the battery life. Note**** you won't be able to use the phone too much as only the the basics text and calls are available to you. You can see for yourself what's what and then make a decision on a factory reset or, put up with your limited battery life during the day.
    03-16-2018 03:09 PM
  6. slaskwroclaw18's Avatar
    HI Andrew, thanks. I did a factory reset when I was on the Feb update for other troubleshooting reason and it seemed to help a bit. I might try safe mode this weekend.
    03-16-2018 04:00 PM
  7. B. Diddy's Avatar
    Hmm, I would argue that I am in an area of good connection and even, I am only on LTE for ~3 hours of the day. I will try turning off Wi-Fi as well.
    If you're only looking at the cell signal bars in the status bar, that might not give you an accurate cumulative picture of your cell signal strength over time. And it's not just LTE -- if your cell radio is on at all (i.e., for voice calls and not mobile data), it can drain battery if the signal is poor.
    03-16-2018 04:32 PM
  8. slaskwroclaw18's Avatar
    Would I have the same problems even when I am on Wi-FI?
    03-16-2018 04:46 PM
  9. slaskwroclaw18's Avatar
    So here is an update. I got to approximately 75% battery with a half hour of SOT. I have been on wifi the entire time and everything else remains the same. One 5 minute call and a few quick check of texts, emails, etc.
    Attached Thumbnails Pixel 2 XL Battery: Is Android System and/or Google Play Services Draining Me?-screenshot_20180316-184104.jpg   Pixel 2 XL Battery: Is Android System and/or Google Play Services Draining Me?-screenshot_20180316-184112.jpg   Pixel 2 XL Battery: Is Android System and/or Google Play Services Draining Me?-screenshot_20180316-184120.jpg   Pixel 2 XL Battery: Is Android System and/or Google Play Services Draining Me?-screenshot_20180316-184133.jpg   Pixel 2 XL Battery: Is Android System and/or Google Play Services Draining Me?-screenshot_20180316-184140.jpg  

    03-16-2018 06:48 PM
  10. GSDer's Avatar
    Either Tapatalk or the forum is having a problem because I can't see your screenshots.
    03-16-2018 07:00 PM
  11. slaskwroclaw18's Avatar
    03-16-2018 07:03 PM
  12. B. Diddy's Avatar
    It doesn't matter if you're on wi-fi -- if cell signal is bad, the phone is still going to expend more energy trying to latch onto the cell signal. This happens to me as well in my workplace. Wi-fi is strong, but cell signal is weak, and my battery drains significantly more while I'm at work compared to anywhere else with a good signal.

    The screenshots help somewhat, but it would be better to show us stats after using the phone normally from 100% down to about 20-30%, so we get a good idea of everything that's using battery over a longer period of time. It would also help to see the cell signal strength graph from GSam Battery Monitor (which you could install temporarily for our purposes here).
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    03-16-2018 08:32 PM
  13. slaskwroclaw18's Avatar
    Sounds good. Do I need to root GSAM to my phone? And once I have a charge worth of data what charts should I share?
    03-16-2018 09:19 PM
  14. thunderup's Avatar
    It doesn't matter if you're on wi-fi -- if cell signal is bad, the phone is still going to expend more energy trying to latch onto the cell signal. This happens to me as well in my workplace. Wi-fi is strong, but cell signal is weak, and my battery drains significantly more while I'm at work compared to anywhere else with a good signal.
    The exact same thing happens to me at my workplace, too.
    B. Diddy likes this.
    03-17-2018 12:04 AM
  15. LeoRex's Avatar
    Sounds good. Do I need to root GSAM to my phone? And once I have a charge worth of data what charts should I share?
    No... But to get the full stats, you need to be able to run an ADB command to give it a special permission.. but it doesn't require root.
    03-17-2018 12:22 AM
  16. B. Diddy's Avatar
    GSam should be able to show you the basic cell signal strength graph without root.
    03-17-2018 12:27 AM
  17. Forest Dane's Avatar
    Snap chat hammered my battery but didn't appear to be using much. It was the only change to my phone and when I uninstalled the phone was fine again
    03-17-2018 09:20 AM
  18. slaskwroclaw18's Avatar
    My stats from today with GSAM. Still early but significant draw for < 1 hour of SOT. No commuting and I spent the majority of the day at home with WI-FI and it appears cell signal is worse than I thought. The spike where it improves is where I went out to lunch for an hour.

    Pixel 2 XL Battery: Is Android System and/or Google Play Services Draining Me?-screenshot_20180317-154630.jpg
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    Pixel 2 XL Battery: Is Android System and/or Google Play Services Draining Me?-screenshot_20180317-154700.jpg
    Pixel 2 XL Battery: Is Android System and/or Google Play Services Draining Me?-screenshot_20180317-154712.jpg
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    Pixel 2 XL Battery: Is Android System and/or Google Play Services Draining Me?-screenshot_20180317-154719.jpg
    03-17-2018 03:54 PM
  19. B. Diddy's Avatar
    Yeah, that looks like the culprit -- that cell signal is pretty poor. Which carrier do you have? Do they offer signal boosters?
    03-17-2018 05:38 PM
  20. slaskwroclaw18's Avatar
    Verizon. Is a signal booster the only way to improve battery life?
    03-17-2018 05:42 PM
  21. slaskwroclaw18's Avatar
    What if I turned off mobile data when I was on Wi Fi and turned on Wi Fi calling? Would that help the battery without losing any functionality?
    03-17-2018 06:28 PM
  22. B. Diddy's Avatar
    It's not just mobile data -- you'd have to turn off your cell radio as well (i.e., turn on Airplane Mode, and then turn wi-fi back on). I'm not sure if wi-fi calling works with wi-fi only, but it's worth a try.
    03-18-2018 12:31 AM
  23. slaskwroclaw18's Avatar
    So I did another day of battery tracking and I am skeptical if the poor cell reception is the only culprit of my battery drain. I would imagine battery drain would fall under "Phone Idle" in the screenshots? I still get a lot of drain from Google Play Services & Android System.
    Attached Thumbnails Pixel 2 XL Battery: Is Android System and/or Google Play Services Draining Me?-screenshot_20180318-230637.jpg   Pixel 2 XL Battery: Is Android System and/or Google Play Services Draining Me?-screenshot_20180318-230646.jpg   Pixel 2 XL Battery: Is Android System and/or Google Play Services Draining Me?-screenshot_20180318-230658.jpg   Pixel 2 XL Battery: Is Android System and/or Google Play Services Draining Me?-screenshot_20180318-230701.jpg  
    03-18-2018 11:12 PM
  24. slaskwroclaw18's Avatar
    Update:
    So after determining my apartment was indeed a blackhole for cell reception, I decided when I am at home to put my Pixel on airplane mode but kept Wi-FI turned on and turned on WI-FI calling and this is my results after half a charge discharged. Quite happy to get the SOT I wanted and I knew the root of the battery issue.
    Attached Thumbnails Pixel 2 XL Battery: Is Android System and/or Google Play Services Draining Me?-screenshot_20180320-193749.jpg  
    B. Diddy likes this.
    03-20-2018 07:52 PM
  25. markabele's Avatar
    I'm having a similar issue with "Android System" and "Google Play Services" eating my battery. What's really strange is some days I have stellar battery life and some days it's really poor. Super frustrating as I don't feel I'm doing anything different on those days.
    03-22-2018 08:56 AM
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