08-16-2018 06:06 PM
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  1. aniggmah's Avatar
    I tried the iPhone X for awhile. I definitely didn't hate it as much as I thought I would. Face ID worked well, iMessage was very nice, and everything seems to run without any hiccups. My deal breaker was pretty much Google stuff not syncing correctly all the time via iPhone. I know this is due to Apple only allowing their stuff full background access all the time so sometimes it would sync and other times it wouldn't. Such as settings reminders (something I use heavily) via my Google Homes would sometimes pop on the iPhone and other times it would miss. That pretty much broke me.

    The camera on the Pixel has also spoiled me. The iPhone didn't take bad photos but I got spoiled with always being able to snap a situation without worry due to the Pixel.
    Great points, what do you mean by "without worry"?
    07-21-2018 04:09 AM
  2. Almeuit's Avatar
    I mean that by my phone will always sync my Google stuff without a problem. With iPhone when I set a reminder via my Google Homes I had to sit and wonder if I'd be able to get the notification when it was time for that reminder whereas with my Pixel phone it syncs and pops up without a hiccup.
    Great points, what do you mean by "without worry"?
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    07-21-2018 11:27 AM
  3. Mr Segundus's Avatar
    128gb is just enough but a little close for comfort especially if using as a stills/video camera on holiday.
    Good thing Google offers free unlimited photo and video uploads for three years at original resolution. You have to pay Apple a couple of bucks each month in order to get any decent amount of space in iCloud.
    07-21-2018 12:29 PM
  4. kigmatzomat's Avatar
    I just don't like the Apple design paradigm. I have supported multiple iterations of Mac operating systems and the way they structure the settings is consistent and not irrational but entirely unintuitive to me. Its like a foreign language that never clicks.

    I have administered servers running Linux, Novell, OS/2 and every flavor of windows server OS from NT 3.5 up to Server 2008 and have owned WinCE, PalmOS, WebOS and WinPhone devices.

    Apple devices are the only ones that feel wrong every single time I touch them.
    07-21-2018 12:30 PM
  5. anon(10092459)'s Avatar
    I have both with iOS12 beta and android P beta and it is a tough call. The flexibility of android is great but flip that around and the overall slickness of apps on iOS vs android is great on an iPhone, I just cannot think of an example where the android version on an app is better even google ones are slicker on an iPhone.
    I've read this more than once from different users. I understand it's an just an opinion and personal preference on aesthetics, but could you expand on your experience?

    When I look at both, I only see three minor visual differences. Looking at Keep and Inbox, I see; 1) Android uses a complementary color gradient to accent the status bar vs single color for iOS. 2) Android uses shading to create lift with the cards in Material Design vs iOS implementation which is flat. 3) Font.

    IMO, the iOS versions look drab and boring. Of course, I feel all of iOS is drab and boring...
    07-21-2018 12:44 PM
  6. andrew_ackley's Avatar
    I've read this more than once from different users. I understand it's an just an opinion and personal preference on aesthetics, but could you expand on your experience?

    When I look at both, I only see three minor visual differences. Looking at Keep and Inbox, I see; 1) Android uses a complementary color gradient to accent the status bar vs single color for iOS. 2) Android uses shading to create lift with the cards in Material Design vs iOS implementation which is flat. 3) Font.

    IMO, the iOS versions look drab and boring. Of course, I feel all of iOS is drab and boring...
    I agree with you completely. I think it's the apps like Snapchat etc that are so much better on iOS, not necessarily the Google ones. Google does make a few apps that they don't offer on Android which I find mildly annoying.
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    07-21-2018 02:12 PM
  7. brat1475's Avatar
    I used both Samsung phones and an iPhone 7 plus. Ultimately Samsung wins out for me. My 7 plus had better stand by battery time, apps seem to work more smoothly, and Car Play was ok. The downsides for me on the 7 plus, slow charging, Car Play has little choice of apps compared to Android Auto, and tethering is more of a pain in the butt. I go with Samsung's, Notes specifically, for the S Pen, Android Auto has more app flexibility, easier and more reliable tethering, and Samsung Pay. I do recommend iOS more often to family, my wife and kids all use iPhones.
    07-21-2018 02:15 PM
  8. anon(10092459)'s Avatar
    I think it's the apps like Snapchat etc that are so much better on iOS, not necessarily the Google ones.
    Indeed. I can see that.

    I always find it head scratching whenever I've read "Google looks better on iOS" or they "work better". I can't say that I've found either statement ... reasonable. Even now as MD is moving Google's Apps to MD 2.0, there's even less visual difference (which I'm not a huge fan of, btw).

    Other vendors like a Snapchat or Instagram. I can see differences they may be referring to.
    07-21-2018 03:21 PM
  9. Mr Segundus's Avatar
    Indeed. I can see that.

    I always find it head scratching whenever I've read "Google looks better on iOS" or they "work better". I can't say that I've found either statement ... reasonable. Even now as MD is moving Google's Apps to MD 2.0, there's even less visual difference (which I'm not a huge fan of, btw).

    Other vendors like a Snapchat or Instagram. I can see differences they may be referring to.
    Google's apps don't even sync in the background on iPhones. For example, you have to keep Google Photos open and your phone awake in order for photos to sync to it. On my Pixel 2 XL, I can turn the display off and let the phone sleep and photos will automatically sync in the background. I agree that Google apps look better on iPhone, but they're pretty much useless on it.
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    07-21-2018 11:31 PM
  10. neil74's Avatar
    Maybe saying the google apps are better on iOS is overstating it but I do not think they are worse.

    Maybe Gboard is the only one I can think of that is obviously better on android due to apple locking down keyboard apps. 3rd party apps though, it is not even close.
    07-22-2018 03:39 AM
  11. anon(10092459)'s Avatar
    Maybe Gboard is the only one I can think of that is obviously better on android due to apple locking down keyboard apps.
    Gboard and probably Chrome, since it's not really Chrome, I think are the more obvious ones. The Gboard situation irritates me practically daily.

    But not to get too far off topic, I think Apple makes some great hardware, like the X. Just wish they'd loosen their totalitarian approach to iOS.
    07-22-2018 11:14 AM
  12. Mr Segundus's Avatar
    I think Apple makes some great hardware
    Yes and no. The iPhone X is a beautiful phone, there's not argument there. But my iPhone X's battery was already down to 97% capacity after only 2.5 months, which is very unacceptable. Many Android OEMs have figured out battery longevity. Apple, almost a trillion dollar company, still hasn't figured them out. But maybe they don't want to just so people will be forced to upgrade.
    07-22-2018 01:39 PM
  13. Umbrokhan's Avatar
    100 Things iPhone's Can't do Android Phones Can. (year 2013) by Armando Ferreira..is 100% hardcore Android fan and still is.
    best reviews i seen from Armando Ferreira, he give's really good reason why iPhone is better.
    07-22-2018 02:12 PM
  14. Vega007's Avatar
    Yes and no. The iPhone X is a beautiful phone, there's not argument there. But my iPhone X's battery was already down to 97% capacity after only 2.5 months, which is very unacceptable. Many Android OEMs have figured out battery longevity. Apple, almost a trillion dollar company, still hasn't figured them out. But maybe they don't want to just so people will be forced to upgrade.
    I am still at 100% battery capacity and have had mine since February.
    07-23-2018 12:21 PM
  15. jiovine's Avatar
    I have both iPhone X and Pixel phones. Up until the iPhone X, Windows Phone was my daily driver - I loved the OS; may it RIP. I am not much into customization or tinkering, so to me it is just a phone with several apps, music and photos. So, the iPhone is my daily driver even though I use all the ecosystems Apple, Microsoft and Google and they all have their good and bad traits. I miss the tile's from Windows Phone as it was so easy to organize your home screen. Apple and Android, I really dislike that you have to flip through multiple pages; even in Windows Phone you could do a quick search by first letter of apps to narrow the list.

    In regards to privacy, I prefer Apple. I've always thought of Google as the Devil regarding privacy. Google is merely utilizing their OS to gain marketing information to sell. Each app request permissions to various levels or personal information and their seems to be more spyware apps in the Play Store. Google is nothing more than a marketing analytics company.

    Segmentation in the OS. I think we can agree that not every Android phone runs the most current version of Android. Leaving the haves and have nots. Carrier phones are loaded with tons of bloatware and most times are several versions of Android behind when released with no plans to update them. Apple does a much better job of ensuring their products receive regular updates, regardless of carrier.

    Device Options: Hands down, Android wins. I prefer pure android, I how ever MFG or Carrier can implement it how they choose leading to confusion in the user base. They should use the KISS method for out of box experience and if you want to customize go ahead.

    Reliability, my pixel reboots several times a day, for no reason. I have like two apps loaded on it. My iPhone just works.

    While both aren't perfect, I lean to IOS for it's simplicity, respect for my privacy, ecosystem integration, OS standards and reliability.
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    07-23-2018 06:09 PM
  16. darkehawke's Avatar
    hmm interesting to see you have problems with Android Auto and your Kenwood Head unit.

    Has that only been with the Pixel, or have you not been able to test other devices.

    Only ask as I was put off for a while from the Pixel as it had supposed problems with Android Auto head units, but I've had zero issue with mine since i got it. My head unit is a Sony one, but I've noticed a lot of the issues revolve around Kenwood and Pioneer units
    07-23-2018 10:02 PM
  17. bhatech's Avatar
    Apple and Android, I really dislike that you have to flip through multiple pages; even in Windows Phone you could do a quick search by first letter of apps to narrow the list.
    Why do you have to swipe multiple pages when you can search for the app? In iPhone swipe down to bring up app search and type in the first few letters app shows up in recommendation. Same with Android, In Pixel you can do that on the Google search bar or in app drawer or you can use custom launcher with gesture and set up app search the way you like. I generally set up swipe down to bring up app search similar to iOS.
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    07-23-2018 10:30 PM
  18. LeoRex's Avatar
    The app search feature has been in Android for a long time, Google just doesn't bother to guide people to use it. I do like that the new implementation let's you get to it pretty much everywhere... Quick swipe up being the Google search bar up.
    07-24-2018 01:29 AM
  19. bhatech's Avatar
    The app search feature has been in Android for a long time, Google just doesn't bother to guide people to use it.
    To be honest Apple or Samsung or any other company doesn't do a good job of guiding people to use app search. It's the most used feature or action by me personally but I'm still surprised to see many people don't even know this. They still manually look thru pages of home screen or app drawer to find an app.

    I do like that the new implementation let's you get to it pretty much everywhere... Quick swipe up being the Google search bar up.
    Yeah even better you don't even need to swipe up since the Google search bar on Pixel launcher is present in dock always, you can search for the installed app directly on it and it pulls up in search result.
    07-24-2018 09:45 AM
  20. Vega007's Avatar
    Quick search is definitely your friend. I keep the majority of my apps on a side home screen in folders. I never actually have to navigate to them though, because i can just swipe and type in "pa" and there is PayPal, or whatever app I am looking for.
    07-24-2018 12:29 PM
  21. drvier8's Avatar
    Maybe saying the google apps are better on iOS is overstating it but I do not think they are worse.

    Maybe Gboard is the only one I can think of that is obviously better on android due to apple locking down keyboard apps. 3rd party apps though, it is not even close.

    My use case may not be common, but the integration of Google Translate on Android is far superior to anything on iOS. For work i regularly communicate with folks in Europe and Latin America.

    Translation, integrated with gboard and universal access, means i can translate on the fly (both composing and reading) in any app.
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    07-24-2018 09:20 PM
  22. TripleOne's Avatar
    I've started to carry both the X and Pixel 2 XL. To be honest, you really can't go wrong with either devices. Both are fantastic. Simple, clean, and fluid... I can't ask for more.
    SultanJazz and anon(10092459) like this.
    07-25-2018 02:32 AM
  23. ChuckG73's Avatar
    Well here is the latest I am going back to the Pixel 2 XL....I miss:

    Squezzable sides
    Google Assistant
    Camera
    I like the iphone and HATE Apple

    Will miss the size of the iPhone X and will fix that by getting a Pixel 3 in October instead on the Pixel 3 XL
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    08-02-2018 01:24 PM
  24. cbreze's Avatar
    I have an iphone 7 that I like but rarely use simply because it is so annoyingly locked down. Simple icon placement where I want is prohibited. I have found a work around for that simple annoyance but sheesh, really should not need to go to the trouble. I'll never buy another iphone for that reason alone. The 7 remains as a backup device.
    I always get a chuckle when on Macrumors forum and peek into the wallpaper thread. The Apple-ites all showing off their fave walls covered up with all the icons. Dude, can't see it.
    08-02-2018 02:35 PM
  25. Vega007's Avatar
    I have an iphone 7 that I like but rarely use simply because it is so annoyingly locked down. Simple icon placement where I want is prohibited. I have found a work around for that simple annoyance but sheesh, really should not need to go to the trouble. I'll never buy another iphone for that reason alone. The 7 remains as a backup device.
    I always get a chuckle when on Macrumors forum and peek into the wallpaper thread. The Apple-ites all showing off their fave walls covered up with all the icons. Dude, can't see it.
    Yeah, I don't understand that either. I only have a couple rows of apps on my main screen, and the rest all in folders on the next screen over. I really don't care about placing icons wherever, I just wish they let you set the anchor point to the bottom instead of the top.
    08-03-2018 11:43 AM
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