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  1. DMP89145's Avatar
    Does anyone consider the deeper work Google is doing when they consider the Pixel Brand? The AI & ML part of the equation? We talk a lot about the hardware here, but does the software innovations matter much to you as a consumer?

    Posting this recent video about some of the AI work they are doing, and while I think the entire 8 min video is good, at 3:12 there is a section that talks about the technology in the Pixel camera and how that same technology is being applied to medical advancement.

    Does something like that matter to you as a consumer?

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    09-28-2018 07:27 PM
  2. billchat's Avatar

    Does something like that matter to you as a consumer?
    Any advancements in technology should matter to all of us, IMO. Can never tell when one advancement many lead to another etc.
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    09-28-2018 08:18 PM
  3. Rukbat's Avatar
    That's not AI, that's pattern matching. AI is the computer telling you that it doesn't feel like working today, do it yourself. We're a few centuries from that.
    09-28-2018 08:20 PM
  4. DMP89145's Avatar
    That's not AI, that's pattern matching. AI is the computer telling you that it doesn't feel like working today, do it yourself. We're a few centuries from that.
    However you want to label it, does that type of work matter to you when you consider the Pixel phone at all?
    09-28-2018 08:35 PM
  5. osubeavs728's Avatar
    That's not AI, that's pattern matching. AI is the computer telling you that it doesn't feel like working today, do it yourself. We're a few centuries from that.
    Eh not quite, that's a pretty narrow section of AI. AI is a broad scope that includes things like neural networks, machine learning and even the assistants in our phones, among many many other things.
    09-28-2018 09:21 PM
  6. cardboard60's Avatar
    I'm hard if hearing.
    Hope with foxconn building the phone, it helps with the earpiece some.
    09-29-2018 06:37 AM
  7. osubeavs728's Avatar
    Does anyone consider the deeper work Google is doing when they consider the Pixel Brand? The AI & ML part of the equation? We talk a lot about the hardware here, but does the software innovations matter much to you as a consumer?

    Posting this recent video about some of the AI work they are doing, and while I think the entire 8 min video is good, at 3:12 there is a section that talks about the technology in the Pixel camera and how that same technology is being applied to medical advancement.

    Does something like that matter to you as a consumer?

    All the work the are doing internally on their hardware is a huge interest to me. Part of the reason why I have so much Google stuff in the house.

    It's even more interest to see how it transfers to other division, spawns new devices and which pieces outside companies can utilize for their own offerings.
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    09-29-2018 07:31 AM
  8. DMP89145's Avatar
    All the work the are doing internally on their hardware is a huge interest to me. Part of the reason why I have so much Google stuff in the house.

    It's even more interest to see how it transfers to other division, spawns new devices and which pieces outside companies can utilize for their own offerings.
    Definitely agree with you. It's exciting to see some of the possibilities come to fruition and really start to help people around the world in different ways. Google is best positioned, IMO, to push innovations in this space to a variety of industries.

    Regarding the topic of the post, the "AI first" philosophy definitely plays a significant part of my decision to purchase Google hardware products and use their services. I look forward to continued integration of this level of technology into the Pixel phones.
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    09-29-2018 10:22 AM
  9. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Does anyone consider the deeper work Google is doing when they consider the Pixel Brand? The AI & ML part of the equation? We talk a lot about the hardware here, but does the software innovations matter much to you as a consumer?

    Posting this recent video about some of the AI work they are doing, and while I think the entire 8 min video is good, at 3:12 there is a section that talks about the technology in the Pixel camera and how that same technology is being applied to medical advancement.

    Does something like that matter to you as a consumer?

    Yes..... It's important to me
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    09-29-2018 10:37 AM
  10. mustang7757's Avatar
    Does anyone consider the deeper work Google is doing when they consider the Pixel Brand? The AI & ML part of the equation? We talk a lot about the hardware here, but does the software innovations matter much to you as a consumer?

    Posting this recent video about some of the AI work they are doing, and while I think the entire 8 min video is good, at 3:12 there is a section that talks about the technology in the Pixel camera and how that same technology is being applied to medical advancement.

    Does something like that matter to you as a consumer?

    I agree, I love technology
    I like the tech they put in phones now
    I'm in the auto industry for 25 years , all the new tech Abs ,direct injection,faster engine controlled computers,hybrids ect.. all come from military and aviation technology applied to our cars . So yes it all fascinates me. Plus I do modify my own cars and race them
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    09-29-2018 11:49 AM
  11. DMP89145's Avatar
    I agree, I love technology
    I like the tech they put in phones now
    I'm in the auto industry for 25 years , all the new tech Abs ,direct injection,faster engine controlled computers,hybrids ect.. all come from military and aviation technology applied to our cars . So yes it all fascinates me. Plus I do modify my own cars and race them
    Ya know, Stang.. I need to be more open minded about new car tech as I am about personal tech. I'm a V8 kinda guy, and my circle of friends give me Hell because I don't look at some of the newer things going on with V6 or even like inline 4.
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    09-29-2018 12:44 PM
  12. mustang7757's Avatar
    Ya know, Stang.. I need to be more open minded about new car tech as I am about personal tech. I'm a V8 kinda guy, and my circle of friends give me Hell because I don't look at some of the newer things going on with V6 or even like inline 4.
    Definitely,

    it will blow your mind away how new technology is in cars today
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    09-29-2018 01:01 PM
  13. billchat's Avatar
    Definitely,

    it will blow your mind away how new technology is in cars today
    My 1st car was a 1955 Ford. Are you telling me there have been advancements since then?


    OOOPS, have to get back on topic. My 1955 Ford did not come with the Pixel 3 phone option.
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    09-29-2018 01:32 PM
  14. mustang7757's Avatar
    My 1st car was a 1955 Ford. Are you telling me there have been advancements since then?


    OOOPS, have to get back on topic. My 1955 Ford did not come with the Pixel 3 phone option.
    Your lucky you didn't have a model T ))

    1955 Ford beautiful cars 🤣no pixel option
    billchat likes this.
    09-29-2018 01:41 PM
  15. I Can Be Your Hero's Avatar
    Doesn't really matter to me. I guess it's nice, but I'm a consumer and I'm after the best product for my money.

    Google using the camera tech for cell staining doesn't make the phone better or my experience better, so I don't care for it and doesn't come into my decision making. Google could be doing a million things but I'm not buying a Pixel phone because of it - they need to prove to me the phone is outstanding and worth buying over the competition.
    09-29-2018 04:35 PM
  16. osubeavs728's Avatar
    Doesn't really matter to me. I guess it's nice, but I'm a consumer and I'm after the best product for my money.

    Google using the camera tech for cell staining doesn't make the phone better or my experience better, so I don't care for it and doesn't come into my decision making. Google could be doing a million things but I'm not buying a Pixel phone because of it - they need to prove to me the phone is outstanding and worth buying over the competition.
    Sounds like you'd buy a phone that could only make phone calls as long as it looked pretty.
    09-29-2018 05:35 PM
  17. Kalvin Kerns's Avatar
    Does anyone consider the deeper work Google is doing when they consider the Pixel Brand? The AI & ML part of the equation? We talk a lot about the hardware here, but does the software innovations matter much to you as a consumer?

    Posting this recent video about some of the AI work they are doing, and while I think the entire 8 min video is good, at 3:12 there is a section that talks about the technology in the Pixel camera and how that same technology is being applied to medical advancement.

    Does something like that matter to you as a consumer?

    Yes, AI and ML matter to me. That's one of the main reasons I continue to support Google. I genuinely hope to see Google bring REAL AI to our society within my lifetime. I would embrace that technology wholeheartedly and the first place I expect to see it is in phones.
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    09-29-2018 05:45 PM
  18. vzwuser76's Avatar
    That's not AI, that's pattern matching. AI is the computer telling you that it doesn't feel like working today, do it yourself. We're a few centuries from that.
    What you're describing sounds more like sentience. Machine learning can't happen without a degree of intelligence to make use of what it learns. There a wide gap from being able to learn from data gathered and utilize it, and being able to make a conscious decision to do something or not.

    For example, the military has computers that are able to analyze a situation based on data from sensors and human input, recognize what is happening, and make a suggestion on the proper course of action (or take action with the best outcome based on a set of guidelines). But to suggest that's the same thing as said computer revolting against the military and refusing to work for them any longer is incorrect. The former requires just enough of a degree of intelligence to be to analyze data and learn from it. The latter requires sentience, conscious, something that still isn't achievable.

    Now continued learning could someday bring AI to sentience, but that takes a long time to achieve. Look at a baby. After birth, it mostly operates on instinct rather than intelligence. But with time and experience, it learns and grows. After it learns and experiences enough, it's able to reach conclusions, then it's able to make informed decisions (though some people don't always make it to that level).

    So just because something is intelligent, it doesn't mean it's sentient or concious.
    09-29-2018 06:24 PM
  19. I Can Be Your Hero's Avatar
    Sounds like you'd buy a phone that could only make phone calls as long as it looked pretty.
    Don't see how you got that impression from my comment. I said nothing about of a phone should look or that I only care about the way a phone looks.
    J Dubbs likes this.
    09-29-2018 06:51 PM
  20. Mike Dee's Avatar
    I'm hard if hearing.
    Hope with foxconn building the phone, it helps with the earpiece some.
    Are you sure you're in the right thread?
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    09-29-2018 07:52 PM
  21. cardboard60's Avatar
    Are you sure you're in the right thread?
    What thread should I be in.
    Are they not talking about software improvements to the phone threw software.
    Could software and the new people building the phone together not build a better phone.

    Exactly where should I be ?
    09-29-2018 08:43 PM
  22. Rukbat's Avatar
    However you want to label it, does that type of work matter to you when you consider the Pixel phone at all?
    Not in the least. I considered updates, company reputation, the phone itself, what hardware was in it. I;m not a doctor, so I don't care about matching symptoms to anyone's but my own, and my Google-fu is pretty strong, so I don't care about an app that doesn't really look up what I want looked up. (And at 76. I don't think I'll live to see a phone that tells me to look it up myself because it doesn't feel like it at the moment.)
    09-29-2018 09:00 PM
  23. Mike Dee's Avatar
    What thread should I be in.
    Are they not talking about software improvements to the phone threw software.
    Could software and the new people building the phone together not build a better phone.

    Exactly where should I be ?
    The thread is about A I. as in artificial intelligence
    09-29-2018 09:30 PM
  24. cardboard60's Avatar
    The thread is about A I. as in artificial intelligence
    Just got to watch the video.

    Didn't pay attention to AI.
    Still don't understand what ML is.

    You are correct. Wrong thread.

    Above my head.
    09-29-2018 10:12 PM
  25. Kayza's Avatar
    It's a fascinating video. I don't directly consider this work in my decision, but indirectly in that I have a more positive view of the company because of it.
    09-29-2018 11:52 PM
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