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  1. Giancarlo Brando's Avatar
    I've considered getting a Google Pixel for many years but my friends who've used one, have often complained about issues they had with their devices so I never ended up buying one.

    I've been using my Sony Xperia XZ2 for a while now and I gotta say, I love it. Sure the camera isn't the best but the UI is very close to stock Android and the bloatware is minimal. The battery may not be the biggest either but Sony's Stamina Mode works great and if you adjust which apps use/don't use the battery in the background, then you can get through a whole day and a half on a single charge. I usually average 6-6.5hrs of SOT and I'm a heavy media consumer and I multi-task. I don't take that many pictures to the point where I need the best camera so I don't really need a Google Pixel and the camera I have on my Sony Xperia XZ2 is great enough for Instagram and Facebook so I couldn't be happier with my choice.

    It's a very underrated phone and one I plan to hold on to for a long time as I've read about the longevity of Sony Xperia devices.
    Morty2264 likes this.
    10-09-2019 06:26 PM
  2. kolyan2k's Avatar
    I have a remote shutter release that I tried out, worked fine, and I've never needed.
    When its built in, that's when u use it. I use it all the time now and I could only wish for this feature on my last few vacations.
    I have never used night sight on Pixel yet......
    10-09-2019 08:05 PM
  3. mech1164's Avatar
    I've been with Google for many a year. All the way back to the HTC EVO. Had my Nexuses from the Gnex to the 5X. They all had some issues but quick updates and fixed made it tolerable.

    I was looking forward to the Pixel then they got stupid and priced it at points the hardware nor the software could support. I stopped Cold Turkey with them and haven't been back.

    I'm still on stock with the Nokia 6.1. does just about everything I could do on the Pixel at less than half the price.

    If they're this stupid 💀 keep the prices sky high in light of the iPhone 11 coming in at 700. It's going to be a bigger blood bath than last year.

    As it is I'm thinking of jumping ship to iPhone. I know I know sacrilege you say. I'm just not as comfortable with the practices Google has been doing. Might just try some of the dark side.
    J Dubbs likes this.
    10-09-2019 08:52 PM
  4. Mike Dee's Avatar
    When its built in, that's when u use it. I use it all the time now and I could only wish for this feature on my last few vacations.
    I have never used night sight on Pixel yet......
    Though I have the Note 10+, most of the shots I take remotely I do so with a mini gorilla pod. It came with a small Bluetooth remote that stores itself on the pod.
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    10-09-2019 09:28 PM
  5. WontonSoup's Avatar
    I'm in the same boat, I've owned every Nexus and Pixel device with the exception of the Nexus 6. After buying the Pixel 3, which I do like overall, I don't think it was worth $799 personally. The Pixel 3a made it that decision sting even worse because I don't take pictures enough to where I would miss the visual core. After this Pixel 3 I'm pretty much done with the "flagship" line of devices. I'll do the "a" lines if they continue past this point or I'll find something else. I've actually been tempted to try iPhones out since I haven't tried them since the 1st iPhone.
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    10-09-2019 09:29 PM
  6. mustang7757's Avatar
    I'm in the same boat, I've owned every Nexus and Pixel device with the exception of the Nexus 6. After buying the Pixel 3, which I do like overall, I don't think it was worth $799 personally. The Pixel 3a made it that decision sting even worse because I don't take pictures enough to where I would miss the visual core. After this Pixel 3 I'm pretty much done with the "flagship" line of devices. I'll do the "a" lines if they continue past this point or I'll find something else. I've actually been tempted to try iPhones out since I haven't tried them since the 1st iPhone.
    I like the 3a line
    I got it after I use my pix 3xl for the Note 10+ trade in .
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    10-09-2019 09:33 PM
  7. Mike Dee's Avatar
    I like the 3a line
    I got it after I use my pix 3xl for the Note 10+ trade in .
    You like spending money period. I guess only so much you can fit under the mattress.
    mustang7757 likes this.
    10-09-2019 09:55 PM
  8. mustang7757's Avatar
    You like spending money period. I guess only so much you fit under the mattress.
    Well , I guess I do and so do you


    Edit: Another thing Mike , we can't take our money to our graves
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    10-09-2019 09:57 PM
  9. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Well , I guess I do and so do you


    Edit: Another thing Mike , we can't take our money to our graves
    Not even a little? Are you suggesting @SpookDroid lied to me.
    10-09-2019 10:23 PM
  10. mustang7757's Avatar
    Not even a little? Are you suggesting @SpookDroid lied to me.
    Oh now you in trouble
    10-09-2019 10:25 PM
  11. Derek Gammage's Avatar
    Just waiting on the pixel 4 release event to see if any surprises happen. I doubt it with all the leaks. If no surprises, I'm pulling the trigger on a 7T. Poor battery life on pixel 3 XL and to be honest I've grown to hate the notch. Didn't mind it at first but everyone else utilizes as much screen space possible why can't Google. And why can't Google use the best components available?
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    10-10-2019 07:39 AM
  12. Morty2264's Avatar
    Just waiting on the pixel 4 release event to see if any surprises happen. I doubt it with all the leaks. If no surprises, I'm pulling the trigger on a 7T. Poor battery life on pixel 3 XL and to be honest I've grown to hate the notch. Didn't mind it at first but everyone else utilizes as much screen space possible why can't Google. And why can't Google use the best components available?
    Google truly did pull out a lot of leaks with the Google Pixel 4 - I wonder if they are holding anything back. Perhaps not! But I guess we'll find out!
    Derek Gammage and Pixel 3 guy like this.
    10-10-2019 09:27 AM
  13. waterrockets's Avatar
    I've had only Google phones since the Nexus 4, other than one foray into the Moto X. The Google phones all have a handful of minor annoyances, but nothing that compares to the 3rd party phones and their spins on Android. I can't stand bloatware and sharing ownership of my phone. I can't stand delayed updates, and Google fixes that for me (if I'm worried about a major version, I'll just wait to download for a week or two and check the forums -- nothing forced on me).

    As it is now, my Pixel 3XL has an amazing battery life, a camera that really delivers, NightSight that transformed phone photography forever (and left Apple in the dust for a full year), regular updates, amazing and fast customer service through the phone, and an overall wonderful experience.

    I honestly cannot see any anyone puts up with Samsung's BS. It completely confounds me. It must be the carrier relationships carried over from the old "subsidy model." Just makes no sense how anyone who likes Android can use Samsung's disk boot virus of an operating system.
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    10-10-2019 01:40 PM
  14. Israel Martin's Avatar
    I've tried to have stock android phones since they started. I had the G1, then the Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy Nexus S. I ended up leaving once LG took over the phones because I just thought the designs were hideous, and HTC was doing a really good job with their lineup. I stuck with HTC from the M7 through the M10, but once they changed the design to the U11, I couldn't do it anymore. I could see their design language becoming something less ideal.

    After that I considered the first Pixel, but ended up avoiding it because it just looked like a slightly uglier iPhone.

    Ended up buying the Pixel 2 XL and loved it, despite the issues. On the Pixel 3 XL now and will definitely be getting the Pixel 4 XL.

    I considered other phones, but their UIs just suck. I can't stand Samsung's ****ty UI and their bloatware. I don't know why they're forcing Bixby on everyone. I don't understand the love for Samsung's phone design either, the curved display edges just seem like more phone for me to break.

    At the end of the day, I like having what's new, and I feel like system wise, at least, I get the newest from Pixel phones. I do wish their designs were a bit better, and that all companies wouldn't just eventually do what iPhone does, but it is what it is.
    ezdoit likes this.
    10-10-2019 01:54 PM
  15. Todd1982's Avatar
    I'm considering leaving team Google as well ....
    Had every Google phone since the Nexus one .

    I am disappointed to see the pixel 4XL still has bezels on it , if Samsung was able to move away from bezels on their s10 months ago , then what is googles excuse ?

    I am seriously considering the one plus 7 pro
    10-10-2019 02:40 PM
  16. Pixel 3 guy's Avatar
    I had a Pixel 2 last year and liked it very much. I got a Pixel 3 on a sweetheart Valentine's Day promo at Best Buy ($349 if you do 24 monthly payments). I was looking forward to the Pixel 4 until I found out it won't have dual front firing stereo speakers, (which for some reason is a big deal to me). The form factor is blah too and I believe Google is only bumping it to 6 GB of RAM as to not be the embarrassment of the smartphone community. There's some rumors going around that it's going to be significantly more expensive as well. I don't believe it will have the SD 855+ processor (thanks Google) but the regular 855 instead. It seems, to me, that Google has gotten quite stingy with the specs of late, not specking them out any more than they have to. I prefer the smaller form factor, but if the Pixel 4 is going to be north of $1000 with only 6 GB of RAM and a 2800 maH battery, I'll probably get and Asus ROG Phone 2, which has the front firing speakers, a 1080p screen (I'm fine with that), 12GB of RAM, 512 GB of storage, (Google is sticking with 64GB or 128GB and no SD Card), a higher refresh rate, the 855+ processor, a 6000 maH battery that lasts a couple of solid days if you aren't gaming, and a 30W fast charger vs a 18W fast charger for the Pixel 4's, all for about $750. The camera may not be a as good as the Pixel 4, but tests decently from the reviews I've read. Sure I'd love Night Sight and the Pixel 4's camera sensor but not for 70% more than this phone costs and the Pixel 4 has sh*tty specs compared to this beast. Google is pricing themselves out of the smartphone game with lousy specs (compared to other flagship smartphones) to boot.
    J Dubbs and Golurk like this.
    10-10-2019 05:13 PM
  17. Mike Dee's Avatar
    I've had only Google phones since the Nexus 4, other than one foray into the Moto X. The Google phones all have a handful of minor annoyances, but nothing that compares to the 3rd party phones and their spins on Android. I can't stand bloatware and sharing ownership of my phone. I can't stand delayed updates, and Google fixes that for me (if I'm worried about a major version, I'll just wait to download for a week or two and check the forums -- nothing forced on me).

    As it is now, my Pixel 3XL has an amazing battery life, a camera that really delivers, NightSight that transformed phone photography forever (and left Apple in the dust for a full year), regular updates, amazing and fast customer service through the phone, and an overall wonderful experience.

    I honestly cannot see any anyone puts up with Samsung's BS. It completely confounds me. It must be the carrier relationships carried over from the old "subsidy model." Just makes no sense how anyone who likes Android can use Samsung's disk boot virus of an operating system.
    Too be fair, what was the last Samsung you owned?
    10-10-2019 10:50 PM
  18. Guyinbox's Avatar
    I packaged up my iPhone 11 and my Apple watch today for return and went back to my 3xl Galaxy watch combo. The Apple watch was almost good enough to keep me using the iPhone, but the watch battery life compared to the Galaxy watch and my many annoyances with iOS wasn't worth it to me. Also, i much preferred the camera on my 3xl to the 11. Bring on the Pixel 4!
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    10-10-2019 11:45 PM
  19. ptkelly's Avatar
    I've enjoyed this thread and some have influenced me a bit. My position this moment is to wait for a Pixel 4a.

    A bit more information about me and my use. I do not play games on my phone. Not a one. I do not social media on my phone. No Facebook, no Twitter, no Snapchat, no Whatsup, no Instagram. You will never seen me walking through traffic looking at my phone. According to the Android System info I have a total of 81 apps on my phone. I also make perhaps one phone call a week when I'm home, calling the U.S. from Mexico, and using Bluetooth earphones. I'm very hard of hearing and hate phone calls anyway.

    I use Google Calendar, Google Keep, GMail, Messages, and Google Maps frequently during the day but my driving interest in a phone is the camera. I've been taking photos since 1962 and that was before automatic anything, before zoom lens, before ASA over 200, and before I had the money to buy much anyway. But, I love taking photos.
    Leaving Pixel considered....-img_20190711_122304.jpg

    I live in Mexico, and have for 21 years, and many of the spifffy Google phone software features never get turned on. Most don't interest me anyway.

    Years ago a gallery person was selecting some photos for a charity auction. I had a few on the table for him to review. But, as he came in he saw some of my rejects on another table. When he had selected four photos for the auction he went over to the table of rejects and said, "I want this one."

    I started pointing out what was wrong with it and he listened and said, "I don't care. No one would care but anothe photographer." The picture sold well at auction.

    I have been happy with the Pixel cameras but I've looked at camera comparisons with Samsung, Hauwei, Xiaomi, and Pixels. Usually, nothing about the cameras is unacceptable. I'm fortunate enough to have experience photography when equipment was far, far more limiting and I adapt to my equipment. I get a thrill every time I take a photo in a dark cathedral or on the street at night. It's truly amazing.

    Oh, I don't consider Apple. Never will. Not Apple anything.

    Generally speaking I'm impressed with Samsung hardware and underwhelmed with Pixel hardware especially since they've decided to compete with Apple for price.

    That's it. My plan is to stick with my Pixel 3 and see what a Pixel 4a has to offer. If I have to, and live long enough, I might be bac pondering the Pixel 5. I do wish more hardware would come out with screen around 5.5. I don't want a 6.6 or 7+ to carry.

    Thanks for all of you who gave opinions on the issue.
    10-11-2019 05:59 AM
  20. ezdoit's Avatar
    @ptkelly - great post.
    10-11-2019 06:18 AM
  21. ptkelly's Avatar
    @ptkelly - great post.
    Thanks.
    10-11-2019 07:46 AM
  22. Golurk's Avatar

    I honestly cannot see any anyone puts up with Samsung's BS. It completely confounds me. It must be the carrier relationships carried over from the old "subsidy model." Just makes no sense how anyone who likes Android can use Samsung's disk boot virus of an operating system.
    Firstly, Samsung’s UI/OS ever since Android Oreo has been very good in my opinion. Sure, there are Samsung and Microsoft apps pre-installed but I would hardly call that extremely bloated. They can easily be disabled or deleted. OneUI in particular is a very good OS and has received quite a bit of praise.

    Samsung’s OS and overall experience is a long way off from ‘BS’...if their devices and OS were bad (which itself is opinion and relative) they wouldn’t have sold over 62 times as many smartphones in 2018 than Google.

    I’m not saying that Pixel phones are bad, but the argument of ‘Samsung’s UI and design is trash, bloatware etc’ is laughable. Ever since Oreo bloat has been minimal, Bixby is semi-competent and the curved display is liked by a lot of people.

    ‘Samsung is trash”?...in your dreams, because the reality is very different. There is a reason they sold 62 times as many phones as Google in 2018.
    10-11-2019 12:56 PM
  23. mrssnipe's Avatar
    Well I'm not wealthy but I have bought a used car for $1500 off craigslist. sooooo yeah car prices.
    10-11-2019 01:05 PM
  24. EMGSM's Avatar
    Considered for a while now and did, bought Note 10. Will see what Pixel 4 is all about, but I doubt it's anything exciting

    Camera can possibly make me buy Pixel 4 but it's not just about the quality, with P4 you simply can't takes pictures that Note can take with ease thanks to wide angle cam and remote shutter button
    There certainly is a lot to consider in terms of trade offs.
    10-11-2019 01:25 PM
  25. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Well I'm not wealthy but I have bought a used car for $1500 off craigslist. sooooo yeah car prices.
    Well if you're going to use that used car as a comparison that's better compared to used device for 100 dollars
    10-11-2019 02:04 PM
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