07-27-2020 04:07 AM
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  1. Super Spartan's Avatar
    I live in Dubai and we get the Exynos SoC (processor) for the Samsung Galaxy devices just like the UK and Europe unlike the ones which are sold in the US/Korea that have the awesome Snapdragon SoC. I've come to think of this as the norm and never bothered. Over the years I did notice in reviews when they say the battery life was awesome which for me was never the case, even after putting most of the apps into deep sleep, the battery life was horrid specifically the standby time (again with nothing in the background and most apps automatic syncing off such as Facebook which I replaced by an even lighter version called Metal Pro and Twitter which I replaced with Fenix 2, etc).

    This year though, the gap between Exynos vs. Snapdragon has widened so much it's like you bought a completely different and inferior phone for the same freakin' super expensive price.

    I was lured into the trap of pre-ordering to get my free Galaxy Buds+ which are awesome by the way and are still the best wireless buds that I've used.

    So I pre-ordered the Galaxy S20+ 5G 512GB/128GB RAM. Firstly, I was disappointed from the get-go, the camera was the same if not slightly worse than my previous Galaxy S10 and Note 10+. The pictures at night even with good lighting had a lot of noise, they just weren't as crisp which was later improved with software updates and luckily the + version doesn't have the horrible Auto Focus issues which the Ultra has and will never be completely fixed due to the hardware.

    I've done multiple factory resets after each update too, but man the battery life, even with my moderate usage which is listening to streaming audio for about an hour and receiving only few WhatsApp Messages and 5 emails at max, I had to charge the phone twice a day! I could never trust this phone to go out if it wasn't at 100% charge. Very sad for a $1300 USD phone at this day and age.

    My other gripe is with the built in apps and finally Samsung started displaying ads everywhere in their own apps especially the Galaxy Store. I'd open the Store, it'll show a big pop up ad in my face about some game, I'd press "Don't show again" but a few hours later, it would still show me that same ad! Pathetic!

    Let alone the fact that I had to disable most built in apps by using Package Disable Pro (another thing you must do just to get rid of the bloatware and apps that you don't want since most cannot be disabled or uninstalled) as I didn't want to have Samsung Calendar, Notes, etc. when I prefer to use the Google Calendar or Google Keep for notes due to the seamless integration with the Google ecosystem and the ability to view and edit online.

    I've owned every Samsung Galaxy phone and Note phone since the S4 and Note 4 mainly due to lack of choice here in Dubai. LG is no more available here, Motorola is very rare as well and their latest flagship is expensive and offers mediocre specs. The others we have are Xiaomi (crappy cameras and Chinese bloatware inside) or Oppo so basically I was stuck, either iPhone or Samsung.

    I finally was able to sell my S20+ at a decent price and started researching what to get? I initially wanted to get the OnePlus 8 Pro but just before pulling the trigger, I checked some forums and see the problems with its screen when the phone brightness is low (screen crush they call it or color crush, whatever). I didn't want to spend $800 USD for a phone that I knew had issues from the get-go.

    I was out of ideas, then finally I thought of the Pixel 4, every review I've seen on YouTube complained about 1 thing mainly, its battery life as it only has a 2800 mAH battery (I wanted the regular Pixel not the XL as I prefer smaller phones) but I had no choice at this point and just pulled the trigger.

    First off, it's amazing to just be able to turn on a phone and *use* it, there was nothing to disable! and because it had a Snapdragon 855, it felt buttery smooth, way smoother than my S20+ with the Exynos SoC even when that was with a 120 hz screen and the Pixel 4 with a 90 hz screen.

    The Google Assistant is awesome and night and day better than Bixby (which I had disabled always anyway) as it can actually understand you 90% of the time.

    The camera even though lacks a wide angle lens, takes phenomenal photos, the quality is just insane thanks to Google Computational magic when it comes to taking photos and what I've noticed is that you can simply launch the cam and snap a photo, no need to stay still and focus like I had to do with the S20+ especially the bokeh effect (Portrait mode) is night and day better. It works every single time whereas with the S20+ I had to always manually tap on the subject to focus on it.

    Finally, the battery life, I knew I was not gonna get decent battery life after watching the reviews but I am shocked that my usage hasn't changed, my apps are the same, but it lasted me the full day, I slept and woke up and the battery was still at 17% and that was a typical day streaming bluetooth via my Galaxy Buds+ for about 2 hours, watching YouTube, taking a couple of videos at the gym, and receiving about 10 emails and WhatsApp messages.

    I am blown away by this phone and never thought the Pure Android experience is so good.

    I could go on forever about the positive things or changes I noticed in Pure Android, but one of the other things I loved is it has a built in ability to stop spam SMS, it you type a name of a venue in the contacts app like a restaurant, even if that name wasn't on your contacts, it would still show you the name/number as if it was on your phone, it just pulls the results from Google search! That's insane!

    Farewell Samsung! Enjoy shoving ads in your 1000+ USD phones/TVs and giving people inferior hardware and keep losing customers!
    07-04-2020 02:20 AM
  2. bkdodger2's Avatar
    Awesome to see you came over to the Pixel family ...I've never had to experience the Exynos side of the family and happy only US version's...pure Google at it's best always handles everything daily effortlessly...that saying it just works ..I stopped worrying about battery life a long time ago ..I have the 4 XL so can't comment on it's sibling..but happy you getting good battery and you can always bump up on those days you want extra push ...enjoy your new phone ...
    07-04-2020 08:25 AM
  3. Morty2264's Avatar
    Hey, you gotta do what's right for you! As someone who has owned a Pixel device previously, I can definitely understand your amazement and satisfaction with stock Android. Enjoy your Pixel 4!
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    07-04-2020 08:51 AM
  4. Super Spartan's Avatar
    Hey, you gotta do what's right for you! As someone who has owned a Pixel device previously, I can definitely understand your amazement and satisfaction with stock Android. Enjoy your Pixel 4!
    Thanks guys!

    Here is a picture I took in a not so brightly lit room with my Pixel 4:

    07-04-2020 10:24 AM
  5. customshopkv1's Avatar
    I have this desire to pick up a 4XL as a backup to my S20U.
    07-04-2020 10:28 AM
  6. mustang7757's Avatar
    I live in Dubai and we get the Exynos SoC (processor) for the Samsung Galaxy devices just like the UK and Europe unlike the ones which are sold in the US/Korea that have the awesome Snapdragon SoC. I've come to think of this as the norm and never bothered. Over the years I did notice in reviews when they say the battery life was awesome which for me was never the case, even after putting most of the apps into deep sleep, the battery life was horrid specifically the standby time (again with nothing in the background and most apps automatic syncing off such as Facebook which I replaced by an even lighter version called Metal Pro and Twitter which I replaced with Fenix 2, etc).

    This year though, the gap between Exynos vs. Snapdragon has widened so much it's like you bought a completely different and inferior phone for the same freakin' super expensive price.

    I was lured into the trap of pre-ordering to get my free Galaxy Buds+ which are awesome by the way and are still the best wireless buds that I've used.

    So I pre-ordered the Galaxy S20+ 5G 512GB/128GB RAM. Firstly, I was disappointed from the get-go, the camera was the same if not slightly worse than my previous Galaxy S10 and Note 10+. The pictures at night even with good lighting had a lot of noise, they just weren't as crisp which was later improved with software updates and luckily the + version doesn't have the horrible Auto Focus issues which the Ultra has and will never be completely fixed due to the hardware.

    I've done multiple factory resets after each update too, but man the battery life, even with my moderate usage which is listening to streaming audio for about an hour and receiving only few WhatsApp Messages and 5 emails at max, I had to charge the phone twice a day! I could never trust this phone to go out if it wasn't at 100% charge. Very sad for a $1300 USD phone at this day and age.

    My other gripe is with the built in apps and finally Samsung started displaying ads everywhere in their own apps especially the Galaxy Store. I'd open the Store, it'll show a big pop up ad in my face about some game, I'd press "Don't show again" but a few hours later, it would still show me that same ad! Pathetic!

    Let alone the fact that I had to disable most built in apps by using Package Disable Pro (another thing you must do just to get rid of the bloatware and apps that you don't want since most cannot be disabled or uninstalled) as I didn't want to have Samsung Calendar, Notes, etc. when I prefer to use the Google Calendar or Google Keep for notes due to the seamless integration with the Google ecosystem and the ability to view and edit online.

    I've owned every Samsung Galaxy phone and Note phone since the S4 and Note 4 mainly due to lack of choice here in Dubai. LG is no more available here, Motorola is very rare as well and their latest flagship is expensive and offers mediocre specs. The others we have are Xiaomi (crappy cameras and Chinese bloatware inside) or Oppo so basically I was stuck, either iPhone or Samsung.

    I finally was able to sell my S20+ at a decent price and started researching what to get? I initially wanted to get the OnePlus 8 Pro but just before pulling the trigger, I checked some forums and see the problems with its screen when the phone brightness is low (screen crush they call it or color crush, whatever). I didn't want to spend $800 USD for a phone that I knew had issues from the get-go.

    I was out of ideas, then finally I thought of the Pixel 4, every review I've seen on YouTube complained about 1 thing mainly, its battery life as it only has a 2800 mAH battery (I wanted the regular Pixel not the XL as I prefer smaller phones) but I had no choice at this point and just pulled the trigger.

    First off, it's amazing to just be able to turn on a phone and *use* it, there was nothing to disable! and because it had a Snapdragon 855, it felt buttery smooth, way smoother than my S20+ with the Exynos SoC even when that was with a 120 hz screen and the Pixel 4 with a 90 hz screen.

    The Google Assistant is awesome and night and day better than Bixby (which I had disabled always anyway) as it can actually understand you 90% of the time.

    The camera even though lacks a wide angle lens, takes phenomenal photos, the quality is just insane thanks to Google Computational magic when it comes to taking photos and what I've noticed is that you can simply launch the cam and snap a photo, no need to stay still and focus like I had to do with the S20+ especially the bokeh effect (Portrait mode) is night and day better. It works every single time whereas with the S20+ I had to always manually tap on the subject to focus on it.

    Finally, the battery life, I knew I was not gonna get decent battery life after watching the reviews but I am shocked that my usage hasn't changed, my apps are the same, but it lasted me the full day, I slept and woke up and the battery was still at 17% and that was a typical day streaming bluetooth via my Galaxy Buds+ for about 2 hours, watching YouTube, taking a couple of videos at the gym, and receiving about 10 emails and WhatsApp messages.

    I am blown away by this phone and never thought the Pure Android experience is so good.

    I could go on forever about the positive things or changes I noticed in Pure Android, but one of the other things I loved is it has a built in ability to stop spam SMS, it you type a name of a venue in the contacts app like a restaurant, even if that name wasn't on your contacts, it would still show you the name/number as if it was on your phone, it just pulls the results from Google search! That's insane!

    Farewell Samsung! Enjoy shoving ads in your 1000+ USD phones/TVs and giving people inferior hardware and keep losing customers!
    Nice from Dubai

    They sell pixels there, or you had get it from somewhere else?
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    07-04-2020 10:34 AM
  7. mustang7757's Avatar
    I have this desire to pick up a 4XL as a backup to my S20U.
    Pretty good combo
    07-04-2020 10:34 AM
  8. Super Spartan's Avatar
    Nice from Dubai

    They sell pixels there, or you had get it from somewhere else?
    They don't I got it from a site called MyGSM, delivered within 2 hours. It was brand new and sealed, Australian version. Just had to use me Apple 30W charger as the charger it came with doesn't fit.
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    07-04-2020 10:45 AM
  9. mustang7757's Avatar
    They don't I got it from a site called MyGSM, delivered within 2 hours. It was brand new and sealed, Australian version. Just had to use me Apple 30W charger as the charger it came with doesn't fit.
    Nice and fast
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    07-04-2020 11:08 AM
  10. Kizzy Catwoman's Avatar
    Thanks guys!

    Here is a picture I took in a not so brightly lit room with my Pixel 4:

    [IMG=3024x4032]https://i.imgur.com/PIX154b.jpg[/url]
    Now that is a great photo and a cute cat. I am glad you like your Pixel phone. I still love the Pixel 2XL I had a 4XL but gave it to my husband. I am using an Exynos s10+ and the battery life is pretty dire as you said. I charge about twice a day. The pure Android experience is lovely. Enjoy your phone.
    Super Spartan likes this.
    07-04-2020 11:38 AM
  11. Super Spartan's Avatar
    Now that is a great photo and a cute cat. I am glad you like your Pixel phone. I still love the Pixel 2XL I had a 4XL but gave it to my husband. I am using an Exynos s10+ and the battery life is pretty dire as you said. I charge about twice a day. The pure Android experience is lovely. Enjoy your phone.
    Thanks Catwoman. I love your informative posts on the forum BTW
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    07-04-2020 11:40 AM
  12. Morty2264's Avatar
    Thanks guys!

    Here is a picture I took in a not so brightly lit room with my Pixel 4:

    [IMG=3024x4032]https://i.imgur.com/PIX154b.jpg[/url]
    THE KITTY IS FLUFFY, I love the kitty.
    07-04-2020 01:21 PM
  13. Kizzy Catwoman's Avatar
    Thanks Catwoman. I love your informative posts on the forum BTW
    Thank you.
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    07-04-2020 08:12 PM
  14. Tomster88's Avatar
    Thanks guys!

    Here is a picture I took in a not so brightly lit room with my Pixel 4:

    [IMG=3024x4032]https://i.imgur.com/PIX154b.jpg[/url]
    Great picture of the kitty!
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    07-04-2020 10:05 PM
  15. neil74's Avatar
    The indoor cat photo is a great torture test for phone cameras and one where Samsung just falls flat on it's face more often than not.

    I have an S20 Ultra and a 4XL and have to have the GCAM port for the camera to be acceptable for me indoors.
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    07-06-2020 04:53 AM
  16. mgbosshogg's Avatar
    Why not buy a SD galaxy?
    07-06-2020 04:59 AM
  17. seaturtleburger's Avatar
    wow thanks to your post, im so getting a pixel phone when it is time for me to get a new phone..also your cat is very cute hehe
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    07-06-2020 05:00 AM
  18. Super Spartan's Avatar
    The indoor cat photo is a great torture test for phone cameras and one where Samsung just falls flat on it's face more often than not.

    I have an S20 Ultra and a 4XL and have to have the GCAM port for the camera to be acceptable for me indoors.
    yes I noticed that with my Galaxy S20+, the cat photos had a lot of noise.
    07-06-2020 07:29 AM
  19. Super Spartan's Avatar
    Why not buy a SD galaxy?
    1) It is not available locally so I'd have to import one which would cost more than the already staggering price of the current Samsung Galaxy S20 phones.
    2) You would have no warranty here as Samsung Dubai will not touch anything not sold here locally, they would tell me to send the phone to the US
    3) Samsung Pay doesn't work for the Snapdragon variant in Dubai
    4) It still has Samsung ads everywhere like the Galaxy Store and whatnot.
    5) I am not going to support a company like Samsung ever again, not with a single penny. They did so many customers wrong with this discrimination of Exynos vs Snapdragon

    After you use a Pixel and see how the Pure Android is, you will NEVER use a Samsung.
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    07-06-2020 07:32 AM
  20. Morty2264's Avatar
    1)

    After you use a Pixel and see how the Pure Android is, you will NEVER use a Samsung.
    Perhaps I wouldn't say "never" - at least not in my case! I had a Nexus 5 a long time ago, which definitely got me hooked on Android and stock Android, and then *loved* my Google Pixel 2 years later... But I also love my Samsung phone.

    I wanted a bit of a change with my S10 and also wanted to try something new, since I'd never had a Samsung device before and wanted to know what the OS/experience would be like. I love it! It's a phenomenal device that suits my lifestyle.

    Is the camera as good as my Pixel was? Nope! But it's good in many areas and the S20 updates have really helped. I do miss the stock Android experience but I really am happy with my S10. But, to each his own! Owning a Pixel definitely gets you hooked on that vanilla Android experience!
    07-06-2020 09:18 AM
  21. Climb14er's Avatar
    This thread looks promising as an educational medium...here are a few questions. Been on Samsung for about eight years, following Motorola. I like the reception of the phone, voice and data. The display is clean and fresh. I use the phone primarily for communication, business and personal. I take pics but not many like most folks.

    My friends and associates have iPhones, Sammy's then Pixels in that order. Pixels have been gaining in popularity. Aside from the great camera in the Pixels, and the iphone crowd also rave about their pics... Is there any other advantage to a Pixel over a Samsung other than less 'bloat'?

    I'm asking as I will be needing dual sim, e-sim phone, possibly next year and the Pixels and iPhones have it here in the U.S.
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    07-09-2020 08:33 AM
  22. Mathrania's Avatar
    Welcome to Pixel, there is no looking backward now.
    Good to know myGSM is still up and running. I remember buying my HTCs from them years ago.
    They don't I got it from a site called MyGSM, delivered within 2 hours. It was brand new and sealed, Australian version. Just had to use me Apple 30W charger as the charger it came with doesn't fit.
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    07-09-2020 08:58 AM
  23. cknobman's Avatar
    So I am currently using a Note 9 and have been on Samsung since the S8.
    I love my Note and loved my S8 but I have reached the end of the road with Samsung (and every other Android phone but Pixel hopefully)

    I want long term support more than anything. I'm tired of waiting so long for updates and then only getting 1 or 2.
    I'm also tired of my Samsung phones having so many of their own versions of apps that I cannot uninstall and I dont care to use (browser, dialer, calendar, etc....)

    I am also not going to be spending $1k+ on a phone unless I know it will be supported for 4-5 years.

    So right now my only hope is that the Pixel 5 will be good enough and priced accordingly. I want clean Android with no crap installed on it so I can build the experience I want.
    I want a phone that will be supported for years and not just a hold over to get me to spend more and more money on the next model.

    If the Pixel 5 turns out to be a bust I sadly will be moving over to iPhone. I've never owned an Apple device but my wife and daughters all have them (watches, phones, laptops) and I cant say I havent been jealous at times to see how smoothly all their stuff works together.
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    07-09-2020 09:05 AM
  24. b4rtw's Avatar
    I prefer the range of Samsung phones as it means a phone that fits anyone's budget. But the camera and software are simply superior on the Pixel.
    07-09-2020 09:36 AM
  25. technomom's Avatar
    OnePlus should be in the discussion too. Really love my OnePlus 6T, probably won't upgrade until 2021 some time. But torn between going Pixel or continuing with OnePlus. I really like what i see with the 8, expect big things from an "8T" but I like that I can get Pixels in a more compact size. I do miss not having wireless charging too. I hate that with OP, my only option for wireless charge is getting the ginormous Pro edition. But Oxygen is really a great variant of Android and the hardware switch for sound/vibration/mute is something that I don't ever want to give back.
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    07-09-2020 10:00 AM
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