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  1. Torisen1's Avatar
    What is this big bezel thing that keeps being reported? Every leak is showing a moderate to small bezel. Media sucks and those F#*$&$'s are way over paid to tell us what we "should" want.

    https://www.tomsguide.com/news/googl...ig-bezel-glory
    07-12-2019 12:42 AM
  2. Kizzy Catwoman's Avatar
    They are obsessed with bezels. I think Google has got it right. That fugly notch last year was just awful. The worst looking thing. No way I was going to get a Pixel 3XL. But if the 4 has a bezel then fine with me. I love my 2 XL bezels and all.
    milehigherik, Morty2264 and Golurk like this.
    07-12-2019 03:44 AM
  3. ChuckG73's Avatar
    The notch was awful, I am happy with bezels but make them count don't just have bezels to be lazy
    dsignori and SARCtech like this.
    07-12-2019 05:24 AM
  4. slave's Avatar
    Bezel is the new "premium feel" trash that Apple duped fools into thinking was an actual thing.

    This bezel hysteria is ridiculous. The media is driving this narrative that bezels are a bad thing, powered by the phone companies who need to create the illusion of an upgrade.

    Phone sales where dropping like a stone, folks didn't need a new phone, so Samsuck and Crapple cooked up this thing with bezels and gestures to sell phones..... It worked. There are plenty of disadvantages to these ultra thin bezel phones. The structure of the phone and drop protection are huge.

    People fell for the okie doke.
    07-12-2019 03:09 PM
  5. milehigherik's Avatar
    Bezel is the new "premium feel" trash that Apple duped fools into thinking was an actual thing.

    This bezel hysteria is ridiculous. The media is driving this narrative that bezels are a bad thing, powered by the phone companies who need to create the illusion of an upgrade.

    Phone sales where dropping like a stone, folks didn't need a new phone, so Samsuck and Crapple cooked up this thing with bezels and gestures to sell phones..... It worked. There are plenty of disadvantages to these ultra thin bezel phones. The structure of the phone and drop protection are huge.

    People fell for the okie doke.
    Exactly my point..I don't want gimmicky garbage on my phone. I could care less about a bezel. I want a phone that works consistently and that is the Pixel.

    The media totally play up the bezel and no WOW features too much.
    07-12-2019 06:24 PM
  6. Mike Dee's Avatar
    The notch was awful, I am happy with bezels but make them count don't just have bezels to be lazy
    I couldn't care less about notches, holes, and bezels.
    Not everyone will be happy regardless of what they put out so it's really a matter of what an individual finds as a best fit. There's only two Android brands I'll consider at the moment and they both have enough options to keep me happy. That can change though.
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    07-12-2019 08:20 PM
  7. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    Give me a moderate bezel and a 5" screen, and I will be happy.
    07-13-2019 07:33 AM
  8. chevyman29's Avatar
    I would much rather have a small bezel and KEEP the front firing speakers .
    The media drives so much it's ridiculous , remember when Motorola had carbon fiber backs ? And you didn't really need a case ?
    Remember whenever we had replaceable batteries ? Thanks to the media's ******** we've got glass backed phones now all for the sake of premium feel ....
    Yet I can't remember the last time I seen any phone in the wild without a case .
    And after the case goes on where's that premium feel ?

    And all the ******** about the camera hump , can anybody point me to a phone without a camera hump ?
    And after the case goes on it's a non issue anyway .

    Then there's the wireless charging everybody makes such a big deal about , I've never got mine to work on any phone while it was still in the case ..
    I actually think the phone makers and the phone buyers (us) must be smoking crack for continuing to let the media dictate what's what.

    I couldn't care less what my phone looks like out in public , I only care about performance.
    07-13-2019 11:01 AM
  9. anon(10092459)'s Avatar
    Completely agree, OP. media is, and has been, straight smoking dope.

    It's outside of my understanding. The tech media and so called influencers are pushing these false narratives as though they speak for users by proxy.

    It concerns me that Google will allow their narrative to carry too much weight with future Pixel designs.
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    07-13-2019 11:51 AM
  10. liscon17's Avatar
    I would much rather have a small bezel and KEEP the front firing speakers .
    The media drives so much it's ridiculous , remember when Motorola had carbon fiber backs ? And you didn't really need a case ?
    Remember whenever we had replaceable batteries ? Thanks to the media's ******** we've got glass backed phones now all for the sake of premium feel ....
    Yet I can't remember the last time I seen any phone in the wild without a case .
    And after the case goes on where's that premium feel ?

    And all the ******** about the camera hump , can anybody point me to a phone without a camera hump ?
    And after the case goes on it's a non issue anyway .

    Then there's the wireless charging everybody makes such a big deal about , I've never got mine to work on any phone while it was still in the case ..
    I actually think the phone makers and the phone buyers (us) must be smoking crack for continuing to let the media dictate what's what.

    I couldn't care less what my phone looks like out in public , I only care about performance.
    Oppo Reno Zoom 10x
    07-13-2019 12:23 PM
  11. chevyman29's Avatar
    Oppo Reno Zoom 10x ������
    Thanks
    07-13-2019 04:14 PM
  12. sulla1965's Avatar
    Give me a moderate bezel and a 5" screen, and I will be happy.
    The 5 inch screen has gone the way of the dodo bird. Honestly a 5 inch today would feel like a 4.3 inch to me now, and that's just too small. Heck I remember when the droid x was considered big at 4.3 inches. That thing is tiny to me now.
    aximtreo likes this.
    07-22-2019 01:53 PM
  13. sulla1965's Avatar
    The 3xl notch was hideous, but could be hidden with an app (natcho notch) which basically gives the 3xl a top bezel just like on the 2 xl on on these pixel 4 xl renders. Anything is better than that notch on the 3xl or the iphone
    07-22-2019 01:58 PM
  14. Casualballer's Avatar
    I would much rather have a small bezel and KEEP the front firing speakers .
    The media drives so much it's ridiculous , remember when Motorola had carbon fiber backs ? And you didn't really need a case ?
    Remember whenever we had replaceable batteries ? Thanks to the media's ******** we've got glass backed phones now all for the sake of premium feel ....
    Yet I can't remember the last time I seen any phone in the wild without a case .
    And after the case goes on where's that premium feel ?

    And all the ******** about the camera hump , can anybody point me to a phone without a camera hump ?
    And after the case goes on it's a non issue anyway .

    Then there's the wireless charging everybody makes such a big deal about , I've never got mine to work on any phone while it was still in the case ..
    I actually think the phone makers and the phone buyers (us) must be smoking crack for continuing to let the media dictate what's what.

    I couldn't care less what my phone looks like out in public , I only care about performance.
    I agree with the sentiment expressed here. BTW my phone (lg g8) doesn't have a camera hump, so there is at least one.
    07-22-2019 02:02 PM
  15. firebirder's Avatar
    It's all click bait. Will be honest, didn't read the article linked in the original post, but saw multiple headlines recently talking about the HUGE bezel on the 4. It is nothing more than websites trying to cash in on the bezel outrage of the last few years and get visits to their site. Honestly, everyone site on I see this one makes me loss confidence in the site. (Half expected to see a similar article on androidcentral…)
    anon(10092459) likes this.
    07-23-2019 05:12 PM
  16. I Can Be Your Hero's Avatar
    Well Google's design team simply aren't making designs that are nearly as good as the competition's. Apple, Samsung, Huawei, OnePlus - all have nicer designs for their phones.

    Basically, if Google want to charge $800+ for their phones, the expectation is that its first class in every respect - including physical design.

    If you're happy with Google's designs, then great! Just ignore the articles that talk about the Pixel 4's large top bezel.
    07-26-2019 04:09 AM
  17. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Well Google's design team simply aren't making designs that are nearly as good as the competition's. Apple, Samsung, Huawei, OnePlus - all have nicer designs for their phones.

    Basically, if Google want to charge $800+ for their phones, the expectation is that its first class in every respect - including physical design.

    If you're happy with Google's designs, then great! Just ignore the articles that talk about the Pixel 4's large top bezel.
    Well since everyone likes different things it's not that simple.
    anon(10092459) likes this.
    07-26-2019 04:47 AM
  18. chevyman29's Avatar
    Well Google's design team simply aren't making designs that are nearly as good as the competition's. Apple, Samsung, Huawei, OnePlus - all have nicer designs for their phones.

    Basically, if Google want to charge $800+ for their phones, the expectation is that its first class in every respect - including physical design.

    If you're happy with Google's designs, then great! Just ignore the articles that talk about the Pixel 4's large top bezel.
    It's all opinion stated as fact . To me saying the pixel 3 having a top and bottom bezel is a bad design is just someone's opinion . My opinion is not having dual front firing speakers is a bad design . A phone in my opinion is a tool first and a fashion statement second .

    And I own the iPhone xs and the Samsung s10 , both are good phones but both have some things that could be better . And there not really any better than the pixel 3 from a design standpoint , IMHO .
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    07-26-2019 07:43 AM
  19. Mike Dee's Avatar
    It's all opinion stated as fact . To me saying the pixel 3 having a top and bottom bezel is a bad design is just someone's opinion . My opinion is not having dual front firing speakers is a bad design . A phone in my opinion is a tool first and a fashion statement second .

    And I own the iPhone xs and the Samsung s10 , both are good phones but both have some things that could be better . And there not really any better than the pixel 3 from a design standpoint , IMHO .
    Exactly
    07-26-2019 09:30 AM
  20. Nauga's Avatar
    My opinion is not having dual front firing speakers is a bad design.
    Yeah, that's been my take, too, for years now, and the lopsided look of the Pixel 4 renders/images made me think about that missing bottom speaker. And the fact that I damned near never use it. I can't remember the last time that I watched a video on my 2XL or played music on it like it was an oldschool radio. I'm thinking now that I really only want it there for symmetry and some sense of handset nostalgia. If it's there, cool, but as long as whatever bottom-firing speaker they opt for is loud enough and not a tinny, buzzy mess, I can be okay with that, too.
    07-26-2019 12:42 PM
  21. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Yeah, that's been my take, too, for years now, and the lopsided look of the Pixel 4 renders/images made me think about that missing bottom speaker. And the fact that I damned near never use it. I can't remember the last time that I watched a video on my 2XL or played music on it like it was an oldschool radio. I'm thinking now that I really only want it there for symmetry and some sense of handset nostalgia. If it's there, cool, but as long as whatever bottom-firing speaker they opt for is loud enough and not a tinny, buzzy mess, I can be okay with that, too.
    I'm good with 2 speakers even if they aren't front firing. I don't use it like a portable radio very often.
    07-26-2019 12:54 PM
  22. I Can Be Your Hero's Avatar
    It's all opinion stated as fact . To me saying the pixel 3 having a top and bottom bezel is a bad design is just someone's opinion . My opinion is not having dual front firing speakers is a bad design . A phone in my opinion is a tool first and a fashion statement second .

    And I own the iPhone xs and the Samsung s10 , both are good phones but both have some things that could be better . And there not really any better than the pixel 3 from a design standpoint , IMHO .
    Sure it's opinion. The media/fans are expressing their opinion about the size of the Pixels bezels. You opinion is that its fine, other people's opinion is that it looks ugly and what 2 year old phones had.

    The Pixel 4 won't have dual front facing speakers, so I guess by your definition, the Pixel 4 is badly designed. And a phone can be both - a tool and something that looks nice. It's not mutually exclusive, yet Google's 'design' team seem to be the ones smoking crack with these disappointing and old phone designs year on year.

    Being a useful tool is actually an important point was Google seem to have been failing on that point too. My Pixel 3XL has ram management issues (just like everyone's) and also had bad random stutter/lag and a bunch of bugs. These issues were well documented by the media, YouTubers and users on message boards. Never thought I'd see Google made devices with performance issues, but here we are. So if Google's focus is for it to be a useful tool, they might want to spend more time on QA.
    07-26-2019 03:55 PM
  23. mustang7757's Avatar
    So who's going to pre-order the pixel 4 when it arrives?
    I'll probably wait a month or 2
    07-26-2019 07:07 PM
  24. anon(10274434)'s Avatar
    So who's going to pre-order the pixel 4 when it arrives?
    I'll probably wait a month or 2
    I got the P1, P2, and P3 at release, swore I'd wait until Black Friday for the P4. Time will tell how this plan works out.
    Got a P3a XL today, all set up ready to go, just waiting for the case, which will be here Monday. These phones are too slippery for me to use comfortably. If I really like the a XL, there may be no P4 coming thru my door.
    07-26-2019 07:21 PM
  25. mustang7757's Avatar
    I got the P1, P2, and P3 at release, swore I'd wait until Black Friday for the P4. Time will tell how this plan works out.
    Got a P3a XL today, all set up ready to go, just waiting for the case, which will be here Monday. These phones are too slippery for me to use comfortably. If I really like the a XL, there may be no P4 coming thru my door.
    Hey how you been bill ?
    I can see rockn pixel 3xl for another year , but might jump to 4xl if I'm feeling the itch which most likely will happen I love Google latest
    07-26-2019 07:29 PM
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