[frederickdawg]

That would be nice, but for now it's gonna have to be AccuBattery

Just an FYI accubattery pro does not report the correct capacity of new device let alone one that is used or reset. You'll find hundreds of posts on here and elsewhere of people complaining that their brand new device is not showing the true posted battery capacity figures.

[Wiley_11]

iPhone 11 pro and 11 pro max makes every Android phone look bad in terms of battery life.

11 Pro Max. 3969mAh 102 hours

Pixel 3a XL 3700mAh 98 hours

Maybe you should check out GSMArena sometime because they list about ~100 Android phones with better battery life than the 11 Pro Max.

[the_boon]

11 Pro Max. 3969mAh 102 hours

Pixel 3a XL 3700mAh 98 hours

Maybe you should check out GSMArena sometime because they list about ~100 Android phones with better battery life than the 11 Pro Max.

I'd rather go by one of those YouTube battery drain tests where they place several devices next to each other, each at 100% with max brightness and then open the same exact apps on them until they are out of juice than to just rely on what GSMArena says

[kjharrison]

Aside from the camera design (ugly cameras seem to be the trend in late 2019), you can add that to the list of step backs from the Pixel 3.

I don't care what kind of optimization magic Google will throw in there, a 2800mAh paired with a 5.7" OLED will not end well.Attachment 311057

It is all about how well optimized the software is to the hardware. Look at what Google did with just one camera. The battery on my Pixel XL is still great, the phone is from 2016, but it still runs smooth.

All these people like to talk about hardware specs and performance, but performance comes from a mix of hardware the software that runs it, which is where Google far outshines much of the competition, IMHO.

To go back to the camera, the camera on my old-*** Pixel XL still impresses people. It's also still better better than the camera on any phone from last year--I can't say anything about 2019 phones because I haven't seen any in the wild.

[Almeuit]

I used to bash iPhones for terrible battery life but the XR started to break that trend and now the new 11 series, while they do hold the prize for the ugliest camera ever slapped on a phone, they also have the best battery life of any iPhone by far.

However, take for example the Pro Max, the huge increase in capacity (almost 4000mAh!) comes with a big compromise:

The damn thing weighs 226g

I'm very glad Apple listened. We said screw thin give me thicker with more battery and they said sure.

[Wiley_11]

I'd rather go by one of those YouTube battery drain tests where they place several devices next to each other, each at 100% with max brightness and then open the same exact apps on them until they are out of juice than to just rely on what GSMArena says

I was responding to the "Makes EVERY Android device look bad" comment.

I think testing all phones for one hour each for calls,web surfing,video playback gives a fair representation, but to each there own.

[the_boon]

I'm very glad Apple listened. We said screw thin give me thicker with more battery and they said sure.

Right it's just they didn't stop and think about the weight of the device in the process.

It makes sense that these would be glass backed because it seems like glass is the ONLY material of choice for these OEM's so now we have an iPhone that weighs 226g lol.
If it had a lightweight carbon fiber/rubbery type back, it should have helped shed some weight of this thing.

I suppose I shouldn't complain since I'm seriously eyeing this F(x) Tec Pro 1 which weighs 240g, and have pre-ordered the UniHertz Titan which is a whopping 303g.

[cardboard60]

I liked it when the phones was made out of plastic.
Had removable batteries.

[Almeuit]

Right it's just they didn't stop and think about the weight of the device in the process.

It makes sense that these would be glass backed because it seems like glass is the ONLY material of choice for these OEM's so now we have an iPhone that weighs 226g lol.
If it had a lightweight carbon fiber/rubbery type back, it should have helped shed some weight of this thing.

I suppose I shouldn't complain since I'm seriously eyeing this F(x) Tec Pro 1 which weighs 240g, and have pre-ordered the UniHertz Titan which is a whopping 303g.

I have no issues with the weight -- maybe it is just me? I mean yes it felt heavier the first day or two since I wasn't used to it but now using it for a few weeks -- zero issues.

[dsignori]

I have no issues with the weight -- maybe it is just me? I mean yes it felt heavier the first day or two since I wasn't used to it but now using it for a few weeks -- zero issues.

Same.

[Lobwedgephil]

Well, looks like reviews confirm the expected issues with the smaller battery size, in both models battery life appears to be very subpar.

[Mike Dee]

Well, looks like reviews confirm the expected issues with the smaller battery size, in both models battery life appears to be very subpar.

I wouldn't have expected any different. There's only so much optimization you can do with a device to make up for a small battery.

[Apple2Droid]

Dont know if I commented here before. 2900 on P3 wasn't enough for me, phone was dead by evening. Note 10 with 3500 is exactly the minimum I was looking for. Can't imagine 2800 on P4 being enough.

Completely agree re: the Pixel 3! The 2700 mAh battery on my P2 was never enough either and I had to always monitor it during the day. However, the 3500 mAh battery on my Note 10 doesn't give me nearly the actual SOT that I had anticipated, and that's with lots of things locked down to maximize battery life. I can tell the difference in the lean pure Adroid on a smaller battery versus the Note 10's 3500 battery with lots of Sammy stuff running in the background. I was actually surprised not to see a bigger difference.

[cardboard60]

Completely agree re: the Pixel 3! The 2700 mAh battery on my P2 was never enough either and I had to always monitor it during the day. However, the 3500 mAh battery on my Note 10 doesn't give me nearly the actual SOT that I had anticipated, and that's with lots of things locked down to maximize battery life. I can tell the difference in the lean pure Adroid on a smaller battery versus the Note 10's 3500 battery with lots of Sammy stuff running in the background. I was actually surprised not to see a bigger difference.

And all this time.
Anybody could look at the note 10 + and see it had a 4300 ah battery.
But it was tooo big.

[Apple2Droid]

And all this time.
Anybody could look at the note 10 + and see it had a 4300 ah battery.
But it was tooo big.

I was referring to the battery on my Note 10. I don't have a N10+.

[Ben_70]

According to the Verge review the 4xl will last the day for most folks without having to turn off features. That's good news for me as I'll be picking up the 4xl.
The 2800mah in the 4 just doesn't cut it. Don't know what Google was thinking there.

[kolyan2k]

Completely agree re: the Pixel 3! The 2700 mAh battery on my P2 was never enough either and I had to always monitor it during the day. However, the 3500 mAh battery on my Note 10 doesn't give me nearly the actual SOT that I had anticipated, and that's with lots of things locked down to maximize battery life. I can tell the difference in the lean pure Adroid on a smaller battery versus the Note 10's 3500 battery with lots of Sammy stuff running in the background. I was actually surprised not to see a bigger difference.

I have note 10 and Pixel 3, the difference is pretty big. I get about 20% more juice on Note 10 and now never have to top it off during the day. Pixel 3 I always had to charge it.
Not sure if it makes difference but I disabled and installed many apps on Note 10, but also added bunch of Google apps. With Soli it feels like Pixel is the one with bloat

[kolyan2k]

According to the Verge review the 4xl will last the day for most folks without having to turn off features. That's good news for me as I'll be picking up the 4xl.
The 2800mah in the 4 just doesn't cut it. Don't know what Google was thinking there.

I am guessing Pixel 4XL will roughly be the same as smaller Note 10

[barondebxl]

I'm very glad Apple listened. We said screw thin give me thicker with more battery and they said sure.

It paid off big time

[cardboard60]

According to the Verge review the 4xl will last the day for most folks without having to turn off features. That's good news for me as I'll be picking up the 4xl.
The 2800mah in the 4 just doesn't cut it. Don't know what Google was thinking there.

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[Guyinbox]

https://www.droid-life.com/2019/10/2...-battery-life/

Basically the 4 is fatally flawed and no one should buy it. Good job this year Google.

[klau25]

What Google should had done is make the Pixel 4/XL like last year Pixel 3. No notch and symmetrical top and bottom. This way the phone would look better and a bigger battery by extending the bottom part a little bit more.

[barondebxl]

https://www.droid-life.com/2019/10/2...-battery-life/

Basically the 4 is fatally flawed and no one should buy it. Good job this year Google.

They messed up big time. And they’re asking $800 for a phone that can’t even use night mode in a single charge because it’ll die before it gets dark outside.

[Apple2Droid]

https://www.droid-life.com/2019/10/2...-battery-life/

Basically the 4 is fatally flawed and no one should buy it. Good job this year Google.

Agreed. If this hits them in the wallet maybe they'll finally decide to include a decent battery the next time around. I find it interesting that the Pixel 3a has a better battery than the flagship.

[mwboost]

The second Android 10 update screwed up the battery on my Pixel 3. Trash now. Imagine what the 4 would be like then .lol.