10-22-2019 04:25 PM
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  1. mustang7757's Avatar
    and I guess we'll find out which content won't use it next week. all I've heard so far is it'll drop down when you're watching movies/videos.
    scrolling through my apps I don't see any that 90hz wouldn't improve the experience. camera maybe? dunno really.
    Yeah exactly, I mean on my 1+7pro I gives the option either 60hz or 90 hz , I leave it 90hz all the time . Definitely eats battery more but I enjoy the 90hz and won't sacrifice it for battery .
    10-08-2019 08:17 PM
  2. ezdoit's Avatar
    oh. well, I like my interpretation better.
    Why, what is your point?
    10-08-2019 08:45 PM
  3. beaner b's Avatar
    Yeah exactly, I mean on my 1+7pro I gives the option either 60hz or 90 hz , I leave it 90hz all the time . Definitely eats battery more but I enjoy the 90hz and won't sacrifice it for battery .
    don't blame you, I'd do the same, which is why I think I'll be going XL this time around.
    -or 7T Pro.
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    10-08-2019 09:01 PM
  4. mustang7757's Avatar
    don't blame you, I'd do the same, which is why I think I'll be going XL this time around.
    -or 7T Pro.
    Either one I'm sure you'll be happy.
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    10-08-2019 09:03 PM
  5. EMGSM's Avatar
    still 2800mAh feels a bit... lacking.
    I think so to. I mean you can only optimize so much.
    10-08-2019 09:48 PM
  6. Apple2Droid's Avatar
    Ever think of consulting with a therapist about this?
    Nope. I'm type A and proud of it. I got to this level of paranoia after having to take two external battery packs with me on a business trip when the Moto X2 went way south. Very fast.
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    10-08-2019 10:17 PM
  7. ezdoit's Avatar
    Nope. I'm type A and proud of it. I got to this level of paranoia after having to take two external battery packs with me on a business trip when the Moto X2 went way south. Very fast.
    What does your blood type have to do with it?
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    10-09-2019 01:10 AM
  8. Golurk's Avatar
    Having seen some comments saying “it might not be too bad, stop jumping to conclusions” etc:

    1. Firstly, 2800mAh is substandard. Unless it’s a graphene battery (which it isn’t) this is already a small battery, especially considered 3000mAh batteries are considered to be small.

    2. The display looks as if it will be a 5.7 inch FHD OLED one. That’s barely smaller than the battery on the XS and S9, and both of those had mediocre battery lives. Don’t forget, the Pixel 4 has a smaller battery as well.

    3. And to top it all off, the display will be 90hz, making it even more power-hungry.

    I don’t see how slight battery optimisations on Android 10 and a new 7nm processor can translate all of this to a good battery life. The maths doesn’t add up. I would wait for reviews to make a final decision in terms of buying the P4 or not if I was tempted to get one.

    IF (massive IF) Google somehow makes the battery life on the Pixel 4 above average, I will be amazed and eat my words. But for now, things aren’t looking good.
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    10-09-2019 01:48 PM
  9. anon(10092459)'s Avatar
    I mean.. it's the 2nd largest battery ever put in a Pixel .. Soooo...

    All this concern is premature.. Let's wait until real world usage comes in before we 'Judge Dredd' the battery ..
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    10-09-2019 10:07 PM
  10. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Having seen some comments saying “it might not be too bad, stop jumping to conclusions” etc:

    1. Firstly, 2800mAh is substandard. Unless it’s a graphene battery (which it isn’t) this is already a small battery, especially considered 3000mAh batteries are considered to be small.

    You lost me on number 1.

    I'm not clear on what you mean by
    ".... 2800mAh is substandard. Unless it’s a graphene battery (which it isn’t)..."

    2800mAh is still 2800mAh regardless of material composition. I'm not trying to give you a hard time...I just don't know what you mean. I believe with graphene you can fit more juice in a smaller space but I haven't done my homework on it.
    10-09-2019 11:05 PM
  11. Mike Dee's Avatar
    I mean.. it's the 2nd largest battery ever put in a Pixel .. Soooo...

    All this concern is premature.. Let's wait until real world usage comes in before we 'Judge Dredd' the battery ..
    I usually don't get worked up about battery size, especially when I see downsizing by 100 or 200mAh. In this case it seems the concern is a higher rate of consumption because of leaked features. If it turns out to be true, it's certainly bad news for the Pixel because some will avoid it.

    For my use case, battery size is mostly irrelevant because I am usually near an outlet and fast charging is a beautiful thing. When I'm going somewhere where I need battery longevity I plan ahead and bring a juice pack but that's mostly because I use my device a lot. A good portion of that is Android Central.
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    10-09-2019 11:14 PM
  12. anon(10092459)'s Avatar
    I usually don't get worked up about battery size, especially when I see downsizing by 100 or 200mAh. In this case it seems the concern is a higher rate of consumption because of leaked features.
    Not unreasonable, but there are additional considerations .. the new chip set for example .. People just looking at the consumption side and not the efficiency side of the scale.. I'm just saying let's maybe wait and see before we come to a conclusion about the battery life ..
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    10-09-2019 11:49 PM
  13. ezdoit's Avatar
    Not unreasonable, but there are additional considerations .. the new chip set for example .. People just looking at the consumption side and not the efficiency side of the scale.. I'm just saying let's maybe wait and see before we come to a conclusion about the battery life ..


    This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen posted here.
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    10-09-2019 11:58 PM
  14. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Not unreasonable, but there are additional considerations .. the new chip set for example .. People just looking at the consumption side and not the efficiency side of the scale.. I'm just saying let's maybe wait and see before we come to a conclusion about the battery life ..
    Yup.... That's pretty much my thoughts. I'm a wait and see kind of person and for me as I said battery life isn't that critical. I do see cause for concern for those that pre-order and feel battery life is critical.

    I don't plan on buying a Pixel 4 or the 4XL at all. If I was going to buy it would be the XL and I certainly wouldn't pre-order unless it was a sweet deal like Samsung did with the Note 10+ unlocked. I traded the 3XL for 600 dollars which was higher than selling it on Swappa. They also gave 150 spending credit for accessories and an additional 50 for reserving a pre-order. The even sweeter deal was they gave the same trade value for the smaller Pixel 3. Last year I think all Google offered was the Hub during pre-order. I have an S10+ I could trade, but no way Google will give anything decent.
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    10-10-2019 12:09 AM
  15. mustang7757's Avatar
    Yup.... That's pretty much my thoughts. I'm a wait and see kind of person and for me as I said battery life isn't that critical. I do see cause for concern for those that pre-order and feel battery life is critical.

    I don't plan on buying a Pixel 4 or the 4XL at all. If I was going to buy it would be the XL and I certainly wouldn't pre-order unless it was a sweet deal like Samsung did with the Note 10+ unlocked. I traded the 3XL for 600 dollars which was higher than selling it on Swappa. They also gave 150 spending credit for accessories and an additional 50 for reserving a pre-order. The even sweeter deal was they gave the same trade value for the smaller Pixel 3. Last year I think all Google offered was the Hub during pre-order. I have an S10+ I could trade, but no way Google will give anything decent.
    I'm afraid you might be right about the trade in
    I still think the battery will get you through the day on pixel 4 series
    10-10-2019 12:12 AM
  16. Mike Dee's Avatar
    I'm afraid you might be right about the trade in
    I still think the battery will get you through the day on pixel 4 series
    You know me by now.... Even when I'm wrong I'm right2800mAh? Is this a joke?-2vgtqpmvmhzk0.gif
    10-10-2019 06:34 AM
  17. mustang7757's Avatar
    You know me by now.... Even when I'm wrong I'm rightClick image for larger version. 

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    Well Alright
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    10-10-2019 09:27 AM
  18. dsignori's Avatar
    I mean.. it's the 2nd largest battery ever put in a Pixel .. Soooo...
    LOL. The serial defender :-)
    10-10-2019 10:59 AM
  19. anon(10092459)'s Avatar
    LOL. The serial defender :-)
    There's nothing to defend. Just stating facts. Unlike some that think that their opinion somehow is a fact.
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    10-10-2019 11:49 AM
  20. ezdoit's Avatar
    There's nothing to defend. Just stating facts. Unlike some that think that their opinion somehow is a fact.
    You noticed that too...
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    10-10-2019 11:51 AM
  21. anon(10092459)'s Avatar
    You noticed that too...
    I guess you can't even state facts any more, it seems, if it goes against someone's opinion. This thread is full of speculation about the potential battery life, while very little facts have been stated.

    But whatever, I guess ...
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    10-10-2019 12:16 PM
  22. dsignori's Avatar
    I guess you can't even state facts any more, it seems, if it goes against someone's opinion. This thread is full of speculation about the potential battery life, while very little facts have been stated.

    But whatever, I guess ...
    It's not that. If I listed 4 terrible options, and you responded with: "But this is the 2nd least terrible option", yes you would be stating a fact. But is also an attempt to make something poor look acceptable.

    The overall point is that we should try to be objective when we can. If your opinion is that a 2800Mah battery is fine/good in late 2019 on a 5.7 inch 90Htz display, cool. But I think to have that opinion, one might be trying to talk oneself into something ..
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    10-10-2019 12:22 PM
  23. anon(10092459)'s Avatar
    It's not that. If I listed 4 terrible options, and you responded with: "But this is the 2nd least terrible option", yes you would be stating a fact. But is also an attempt to make something poor look acceptable.

    The overall point is that we should try to be objective when we can. If your opinion is that a 2800Mah battery is fine/good in late 2019 on a 5.7 inch 90Htz display, cool. But I think to have that opinion, one might be trying to talk oneself into something ..
    Saying that something is "good" or "bad" is always a matter personal perspective. If you are of the opinion that Pixel batteries are "bad" then that's cool. I don't see them as such in my usage.

    Here's my idle time on my Pixel 2. I haven't charged it in days. It has a smaller battery than the one we're discussing. Now is that "bad" to you?
    Attached Thumbnails 2800mAh? Is this a joke?-screenshot_20191010-092636.jpg   2800mAh? Is this a joke?-screenshot_20191010-092653.jpg  
    10-10-2019 12:35 PM
  24. dsignori's Avatar
    Saying that something is "good" or "bad" is always a matter personal perspective. If you are of the opinion that Pixel batteries are "bad" then that's cool. I don't see them as such in my usage.

    Here's my idle time on my Pixel 2. I haven't charged it in days. It has a smaller battery than the one we're discussing. Now is that "bad" to you?
    I'm glad this works for you. Hopefully the 4 will also work well for you. Of course it would work better for you (and for everyone) with a larger battery, yes?

    We can't let Google get away with lagging just about every other phone of this size with battery capacity, by helping them justify it.

    p.s. You're showing 9 minutes of screen time :-)
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    10-10-2019 12:37 PM
  25. anon(10092459)'s Avatar
    I'm glad this works for you. Hopefully the 4 will also work well for you. Of course it would work better for you (and for everyone) with a larger battery, yes?

    p.s. You're showing 9 minutes of screen time :-)
    I should've been clearer. It is my idle time on that device. Instead of I haven't charged it in days, I should've said I haven't touched it in days .. was poor wording on my part.

    My Pixel 3 actually isn't as good under the same circumstances wit it's 2915 mAh battery.
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    10-10-2019 12:43 PM
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