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  1. rrballer11's Avatar
    I have a OnePlus 6T, I'v been between iOS and Android phones switching between the two. I'm debating on getting the pixel 4 or the iPhone 11.

    I know they haven't officially announced the pixel 4, but honestly which one would you say is the better option putting bais aside.
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    10-04-2019 06:03 PM
  2. Morty2264's Avatar
    That's a quandary, to be sure! To be honest, I am not an Apple person but will do my very best to leave my biases out of it!

    Both phones will run a smooth and clean OS - the Pixel 4 is stock Android and iOS has always been a bare-bones-and-it-works OS. Both cameras are supposed to be phenomenal but I thought I read in one of (AC's?) comparisons that the 11's camera performs better in lowlight. But really, they will both get the job done and get it done well.

    Both are probably going to be pricy... And both of them will be great!

    Since they are so close in features and OS as far as smoothness goes, what is more important to you? Would you prefer going to Apple and having to get all Apple products; or having to get Pixel stuff but still having some flexibility with accessories for the Pixel 4? What phone do you imagine yourself looking at, picking up, and using for the next year or two?

    It's a tough choice - let us know what you decide!
    10-04-2019 06:12 PM
  3. jaybotinc's Avatar
    That's a quandary, to be sure! To be honest, I am not an Apple person but will do my very best to leave my biases out of it!

    Both phones will run a smooth and clean OS - the Pixel 4 is stock Android and iOS has always been a bare-bones-and-it-works OS. Both cameras are supposed to be phenomenal but I thought I read in one of (AC's?) comparisons that the 11's camera performs better in lowlight. But really, they will both get the job done and get it done well.

    Both are probably going to be pricy... And both of them will be great!

    Since they are so close in features and OS as far as smoothness goes, what is more important to you? Would you prefer going to Apple and having to get all Apple products; or having to get Pixel stuff but still having some flexibility with accessories for the Pixel 4? What phone do you imagine yourself looking at, picking up, and using for the next year or two?

    It's a tough choice - let us know what you decide!
    Marques or whatever his name is, that tech reviewer, does some really nice comparisons of the two (not a 4 obviously). He makes it no secret that he is Android bc of customization and ability to get different brands, but he is very fair and shows no bias in his reviews. In fact, I honestly thought he was an iPhone user until I listened to his podcast. On the end, as Morty said, it depends very much on YOU. I'll see if I can find a good vid of one of his reviews.
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    10-04-2019 06:28 PM
  4. jaybotinc's Avatar
    I have a OnePlus 6T, I'v been between iOS and Android phones switching between the two. I'm debating on getting the pixel 4 or the iPhone 11.

    I know they haven't officially announced the pixel 4, but honestly which one would you say is the better option putting bais aside.
    My comment above was.keant to quote you. Anyway...
    10-04-2019 06:29 PM
  5. jaybotinc's Avatar
    Why he doesn't use the Pixel (this is a year ago. Obvious not about the iPhone 4 lol:

    Something to consider if you go Apple-ward:

    iPhone 11:

    iPhone 11 pro:

    OnePlus: I think this is what he uses.

    Anyway, I like him a lot bc though he has opinions he never acts like others are silly for preferring other phones.
    10-04-2019 06:39 PM
  6. rrballer11's Avatar
    Great comment thanks.. yeah the customization and the accessories is a good point. I'll wait till Oct 15 and decide.. thank you
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    10-04-2019 06:50 PM
  7. rrballer11's Avatar
    That's a quandary, to be sure! To be honest, I am not an Apple person but will do my very best to leave my biases out of it!

    Both phones will run a smooth and clean OS - the Pixel 4 is stock Android and iOS has always been a bare-bones-and-it-works OS. Both cameras are supposed to be phenomenal but I thought I read in one of (AC's?) comparisons that the 11's camera performs better in lowlight. But really, they will both get the job done and get it done well.

    Both are probably going to be pricy... And both of them will be great!

    Since they are so close in features and OS as far as smoothness goes, what is more important to you? Would you prefer going to Apple and having to get all Apple products; or having to get Pixel stuff but still having some flexibility with accessories for the Pixel 4? What phone do you imagine yourself looking at, picking up, and using for the next year or two?

    It's a tough choice - let us know what you decide!
    Great comment thanks.. yeah the customization and the accessories is a good point. I'll wait till Oct 15 and decide.. thank you
    10-04-2019 06:51 PM
  8. EMGSM's Avatar
    I think Both with be great phones but I would go with the pixel. I think that in terms of customization Apple is a little too restrictive IMO.
    10-04-2019 09:57 PM
  9. Guyinbox's Avatar
    iOS 13 has been garbage so far. The 11 is my first iPhone so i assume the experience appears like this, but it’s been a long time since I've had this many bugs/slowdowns on a phone. When it's not effing up it's super fast though.
    10-05-2019 03:10 AM
  10. Golurk's Avatar
    I think Both with be great phones but I would go with the pixel. I think that in terms of customization Apple is a little too restrictive IMO.
    I would go for the Pixel 4 XL. The lack of the telephoto lens is compensated by super-res zoom, Night Sight is just as good as Apple’s Night Mode and can be toggled manually, and Google’s processing is still unparalleled.
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    10-05-2019 05:33 AM
  11. jaybotinc's Avatar
    I would go for the Pixel 4 XL. The lack of the telephoto lens is compensated by super-res zoom, Night Sight is just as good as Apple’s Night Mode and can be toggled manually, and Google’s processing is still unparalleled.
    What does that mean? Processing. In practical and technical terms.
    10-05-2019 09:13 AM
  12. TgeekB's Avatar
    What does that mean? Processing. In practical and technical terms.
    I was wondering the same thing.
    10-05-2019 09:17 AM
  13. jaybotinc's Avatar
    iOS 13 has been garbage so far. The 11 is my first iPhone so i assume the experience appears like this, but it’s been a long time since I've had this many bugs/slowdowns on a phone. When it's not effing up it's super fast though.
    Fortunately while I have heard there have been some issues, it seems most ppl's experience was not garbage. Similar to how with the Android 10 update some ppl have had(and are still having) a terrible experience bc of a few but noteworthy glitches, but for the most part, ppl are happy and the few bugs here and there are normal and will be sorted out soon.

    But for those few users like you w iPhone and others w A10, that really sucks. I'm sorry you're having such an unlucky experience.
    10-05-2019 09:21 AM
  14. jaybotinc's Avatar
    I have a OnePlus 6T, I'v been between iOS and Android phones switching between the two. I'm debating on getting the pixel 4 or the iPhone 11.

    I know they haven't officially announced the pixel 4, but honestly which one would you say is the better option putting bais aside.
    Oh, one thing I wanted to mention. I have heard some suggest that it might be best to wait a year for the 12. That this 11 is a very solid yet unexciting generation but the 12 will have a lot of the new things. Many think that the annoying lightning charger will be totally replaced w USBC by then too.

    And if it is price prohibitive, the 11 (which again, is really just a more solid version of the 10R) will still be available, perhaps even cheaper. Just a thought.
    10-05-2019 09:24 AM
  15. jamezr's Avatar
    It is always funny when people say this" Wait until the next model comes out! It will this exciting feature or that exciting feature"
    If people did this they would never buy another phone because next years model is sure to have a new and exciting feature.

    I have the iPhone 11 pro max and Note 10+ and can't wait to get the Pixel 4 XL.....
    10-05-2019 10:12 AM
  16. Morty2264's Avatar
    Great comment thanks.. yeah the customization and the accessories is a good point. I'll wait till Oct 15 and decide.. thank you
    Waiting until October 15th is a good plan! I'm waiting to see what the Pixel 4 absolutely has to offer (because I love my Pixel 2 so much) and then I'm making a phone upgrading choice. Good luck and let us know what happens!
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    10-05-2019 10:24 AM
  17. Morty2264's Avatar
    It is always funny when people say this" Wait until the next model comes out! It will this exciting feature or that exciting feature"
    If people did this they would never buy another phone because next years model is sure to have a new and exciting feature.

    I have the iPhone 11 pro max and Note 10+ and can't wait to get the Pixel 4 XL.....
    I see what you're saying - but it's kind of different when the next big release is a month away. That's when I'd recommend waiting - especially if you're deciding between last year's iteration and the next release. At least if you decide you don't want the current release when it comes out, last year's iteration will be at a discount so you can snag it then.
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    10-05-2019 10:28 AM
  18. rrballer11's Avatar
    Waiting until October 15th is a good plan! I'm waiting to see what the Pixel 4 absolutely has to offer (because I love my Pixel 2 so much) and then I'm making a phone upgrading choice. Good luck and let us know what happens!
    Thank you!, I will let you know. I am going to wait till the 15th and maybe some reviews
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    10-05-2019 10:40 AM
  19. jaybotinc's Avatar
    It is always funny when people say this" Wait until the next model comes out! It will this exciting feature or that exciting feature"
    If people did this they would never buy another phone because next years model is sure to have a new and exciting feature.

    I have the iPhone 11 pro max and Note 10+ and can't wait to get the Pixel 4 XL.....
    I agree to a point. The reason I think it's a bit different is bc of what I said:

    From all accounts, the iPhone 11 is not meant to be a completely new version (I mean, that's the PR for obvious reasons, but Apple has apparently been working on 2020 for some time now). It is merely a tightened up version of the 10r. Which is good because the 10r was a good phone and people have every reason to believe that this iPhone 11 is supposed to be a solid phone of a phone that was already successful.

    From all accounts, on the other hand, the iPhone 12 is supposed to be a phone significant changes.

    So, yeah, it objectively makes sense for some people to buy an 11, while it objectively makes sense for others to simply wait a mere year if they are looking for exciting new game-changing features like a USB C (which is a big deal to many).

    So no, there isn't always a good reason for anyone to wait and yes, there are sometimes good years for most to skip. The 11 looks great, but I don't know what the OP is looking for.
    10-05-2019 11:33 AM
  20. jaybotinc's Avatar
    It is always funny when people say this" Wait until the next model comes out! It will this exciting feature or that exciting feature"
    If people did this they would never buy another phone because next years model is sure to have a new and exciting feature.

    I have the iPhone 11 pro max and Note 10+ and can't wait to get the Pixel 4 XL.....
    Also, you're kind of on a different... budget than many of us who can only go for 1 new phone every 2 years at best. I am envious of your ability to have so many phones.

    But I have to ask, and this isn't rhetorical, how do you use that many same-generation phones at the same time?
    10-05-2019 11:37 AM
  21. jamezr's Avatar
    But my response still stands.....it you are waiting to buy a phone because the next model will have some new exciting feature or design......you will never buy a new phone.

    My advice...is buy what you need now and be happy with it.
    Keep FOMO...(Fear of missing out) out of the buying process. There will always be a better model next year......this can be said about phones....cars....houses.....toasters....girlfriends


    Buy what you need today...be happy with it and don't look back.


    Oh...I do use my phones. I switch back and forth between them all the time...sometimes daily.
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    10-05-2019 12:46 PM
  22. jaybotinc's Avatar
    But my response still stands.....it you are waiting to buy a phone because the next model will have some new exciting feature or design......you will never buy a new phone.

    My advice...is buy what you need now and be happy with it.
    Keep FOMO...(Fear of missing out) out of the buying process. There will always be a better model next year......this can be said about phones....cars....houses.....toasters....girlfriends


    Buy what you need today...be happy with it and don't look back.


    Oh...I do use my phones. I switch back and forth between them all the time...sometimes daily.
    I don't mean this as sharp as it may come across but I cannot help but comment on the fact that the guy who buys three phones at one time is saying just buy whatever makes you happy! To the rest of us who can only afford one phone when it's on super sale every two years.

    but, in general I do agree with your advice. But to suggest that it never makes sense to wait until next year when you have reason to believe that the phone will have stuff that you want whereas this year's phone maybe doesn't have stuff you want, then that makes sense... Especially if you can't afford to get a phone whenever you want.

    And I don't mean to imply anything at all about your personal economic situation. Maybe your rich and if so more power to you. Or maybe you just prioritize your money differently. I don't think there's anything silly about that at all so I don't want you to take this as some kind of a back handed slight against the fact that you have phones. If anything I'm jealous. Lol
    10-05-2019 01:43 PM
  23. jaybotinc's Avatar
    But my response still stands.....it you are waiting to buy a phone because the next model will have some new exciting feature or design......you will never buy a new phone.

    My advice...is buy what you need now and be happy with it.
    Keep FOMO...(Fear of missing out) out of the buying process. There will always be a better model next year......this can be said about phones....cars....houses.....toasters....girlfriends


    Buy what you need today...be happy with it and don't look back.


    Oh...I do use my phones. I switch back and forth between them all the time...sometimes daily.
    I'm really fascinated by this. And I do not mean that in any kind of a sarcastic snarky way. So how does that work? Like do you have different numbers or are you able to just switch the SIM card really quickly and it's not a big deal? I feel like when I switch over phones I have to go online and do a thing and it takes a 10 minute process. It's not a big deal but I would imagine it's something a lot smoother than that for you if you're switching several times throughout the day. And what makes you switch? Like do you like one for work better or one for when you're having to take pictures more? What makes you decide I'm going to use that one or this one. I seriously find this really interesting I think it's really cool.
    10-05-2019 01:46 PM
  24. EMGSM's Avatar
    Google’s processing is still unparalleled
    I agree.
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    10-05-2019 03:59 PM
  25. jamezr's Avatar
    I'm really fascinated by this. And I do not mean that in any kind of a sarcastic snarky way. So how does that work? Like do you have different numbers or are you able to just switch the SIM card really quickly and it's not a big deal? I feel like when I switch over phones I have to go online and do a thing and it takes a 10 minute process. It's not a big deal but I would imagine it's something a lot smoother than that for you if you're switching several times throughout the day. And what makes you switch? Like do you like one for work better or one for when you're having to take pictures more? What makes you decide I'm going to use that one or this one. I seriously find this really interesting I think it's really cool.
    My GF doesn't understand either. She finds it quite amusing...as does the rest of my family.

    It's hard to explain...I get bored with my iPhone and switch to my Note 10....same for my Pixel 3 XL....
    There are some things each phone does better than the others.

    For my iPhone...I just sign out of iMessage in settings...then swap the sim card into any of my Android phones.
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    10-05-2019 04:14 PM
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