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  1. robtani's Avatar
    First off, let me start by saying that I've been a long time Nexus/Pixel user. I've had every Nexus device since the Nexus 4, and the last Pixel device I had was the Pixel 3a (after a brief stint with the Pixel 3). Despite hesitations about this phone with its small battery, I was taunted by the alleged camera quality and bought the Pixel 4. Again, keep in mind, I'm only talking about the Pixel 4 here and not the XL version.

    First let me quickly talk about the good. The phone feels great in the hands and the display is very sharp indeed! The gestures are a total gimmick and frankly other than waving to the next song, I don't know what else it could even be used for. Face unlock WORKS and it's fast! but honestly I still prefer the fingerprint reader in the back especially since I used to use it all the time to pull down the notification bar and totally miss it. Just for kicks, I did try that face unlock with eyes or one eye close and it's true, it does still unlock.. but who cares.. I'm not concerned about it being a security issue.

    With that said.. the phone is going back! I can't stand the battery life on this.. It can't even get me through a moderate day. I can safely say, this is THE WORST Pixel phone ever when it comes to battery life. I'm not stupid about battery life.. I've tried to optimize things and have alwaysOn display turned off and even usually run it on battery saver mode but no matter what I do, can't really manage to squeeze more than 3 hrs of SOT of this phone and the standby battery life is also pretty bad.. not sure if it's that near Soli radar constantly beaming or what. I just CAN'T believe in 2019-2020.. while Apple has phones out with the best battery life ever, Google puts out this??? Did they even bother testing it?? WTF?? Getting 2.5 hrs of screen on battery life is just not acceptable! And frankly, I can't even tell the camera is all that much better compared to what I had on the 3a. Will wait for the 4a and hope they don't screw that one up also.
    11-04-2019 12:58 PM
  2. B. Diddy's Avatar
    That's too bad. The smaller Pixels have never been good with battery life, with the exception of the Pixel 3a. I personally always go for the XL.
    11-04-2019 01:23 PM
  3. robtani's Avatar
    It really is too bad... I wanted to like this phone so much! i love having the top of the line mobile camera (even though that's not debatable with the iPhone 11 Pro) and pure Android.. but a phone that can't even get you through a basic day is just not usable! I can't even imagine if I had to rely on it during a travel day or something when I use the phone so often. Would have loved to get something like the Moto G7 Power if it had top of the line camera and if after the Lenovo buyout, Motorola hadn't quickly become worst in class for issuing Android updates!
    11-04-2019 01:39 PM
  4. Mike Dee's Avatar
    First off, let me start by saying that I've been a long time Nexus/Pixel user. I've had every Nexus device since the Nexus 4, and the last Pixel device I had was the Pixel 3a (after a brief stint with the Pixel 3). Despite hesitations about this phone with its small battery, I was taunted by the alleged camera quality and bought the Pixel 4. Again, keep in mind, I'm only talking about the Pixel 4 here and not the XL version.

    First let me quickly talk about the good. The phone feels great in the hands and the display is very sharp indeed! The gestures are a total gimmick and frankly other than waving to the next song, I don't know what else it could even be used for. Face unlock WORKS and it's fast! but honestly I still prefer the fingerprint reader in the back especially since I used to use it all the time to pull down the notification bar and totally miss it. Just for kicks, I did try that face unlock with eyes or one eye close and it's true, it does still unlock.. but who cares.. I'm not concerned about it being a security issue.

    With that said.. the phone is going back! I can't stand the battery life on this.. It can't even get me through a moderate day. I can safely say, this is THE WORST Pixel phone ever when it comes to battery life. I'm not stupid about battery life.. I've tried to optimize things and have alwaysOn display turned off and even usually run it on battery saver mode but no matter what I do, can't really manage to squeeze more than 3 hrs of SOT of this phone and the standby battery life is also pretty bad.. not sure if it's that near Soli radar constantly beaming or what. I just CAN'T believe in 2019-2020.. while Apple has phones out with the best battery life ever, Google puts out this??? Did they even bother testing it?? WTF?? Getting 2.5 hrs of screen on battery life is just not acceptable! And frankly, I can't even tell the camera is all that much better compared to what I had on the 3a. Will wait for the 4a and hope they don't screw that one up also.
    While SOT is not the only criteria to measure a battery, 2.5 hrs is certainly well below normal.
    11-04-2019 01:46 PM
  5. mustang7757's Avatar
    Should at least get 3.5 to 5 SOT
    While SOT is not the only criteria to measure a battery, 2.5 hrs is certainly well below normal.
    11-04-2019 01:50 PM
  6. kolyan2k's Avatar
    I wonder if upgrade from P3 will result in downgrade in battery life
    11-04-2019 02:05 PM
  7. Mike Dee's Avatar
    I wonder if upgrade from P3 will result in downgrade in battery life
    A lot depends on how worn the battery on a P3 is.
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    11-04-2019 02:23 PM
  8. bhatech's Avatar
    Should at least get 3.5 to 5 SOT
    Personally for my use I got 5 hrs SOT on the smaller Pixel 4. But I got more with 4 XL and went with it. The battery on the smaller Pixel 4 is in line with smaller Pixel 3. But every other company improved on battery life so that's probably the reason everyone is so upset.
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    11-04-2019 02:39 PM
  9. mustang7757's Avatar
    Personally for my use I got 5 hrs SOT on the smaller Pixel 4. But I got more with 4 XL and went with it. The battery on the smaller Pixel 4 is in line with smaller Pixel 3. But every other company improved on battery life so that's probably the reason everyone is so upset.
    Yeah , I get anywhere between 3.5 to 7 on pixel 3a with my Att sim , I think if I used my TMobile sim be the better half of those stats
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    11-04-2019 02:48 PM
  10. almath's Avatar
    Too late I bought it, and battery life is great..
    11-04-2019 02:54 PM
  11. mustang7757's Avatar
    Too late I bought it, and battery life is great.. [IMG=498x279]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191104/dc37db492fa241ff3c6574fd7049e8fe.gif[/url]
    The 4 or 4xl?
    11-04-2019 02:55 PM
  12. Jeremy8000's Avatar
    Definitely sounds like the battery won't be sufficient for you. Couple of questions, though:

    How long have you been using the P4? There's a slew of reviews out there noting how battery life became progressively and in some cases substantially better nearly every day over the first week, with some folks reporting 50%+ increases, citing the adaptive battery management optimizing to their personal style.

    If this was 'day 1' or 'day 2' it's to be expected that the life would be horrible for a few reasons, such as that the actual battery indicator may not be accurately reflecting the true level until it's run a few cycles, or that when you first set up the device it is chewing through battery at an atypical pace while downloading and installing any applications and any OS updates.

    Not trying to provide any excuses for the phone, as if it's not getting at least 3h SOT it's barely meeting the average user's needs (much less we, the enthusiasts), but wanting to make sure that 2.5h is after it's been in use for more than the first couple of days as that won't be representative of what one should anticipate in the long run.
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    11-04-2019 02:57 PM
  13. almath's Avatar
    The 4 or 4xl?
    Y'all know I got XL, anyone crazy enough to get the .. nevermind.
    Just acting up using my gifs..
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    11-04-2019 03:24 PM
  14. kolyan2k's Avatar
    Just saw another review.....everyday makes it harder and harder to even consider P4 over P3 even if you have money to waste XL is too big for me, and even that only offers avg battery life.
    11-04-2019 04:00 PM
  15. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Y'all know I got XL, anyone crazy enough to get the .. nevermind.
    Just acting up using my gifs.. [IMG=480x268]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191104/e66af0a5e0b63a422477d552c8a75f83.gif[/url]
    Uh ohDO NOT BUY the Pixel 4 if you care at all about battery life!!!-3ov9k9ss9n3wo6fq7c.gif
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    11-04-2019 04:01 PM
  16. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Just saw another review.....everyday makes it harder and harder to even consider P4 over P3 even if you have money to waste XL is too big for me, and even that only offers avg battery life.
    Some say it's horrible, others say it's fine. It's a tuff call if you can't top off during the day. For me it wouldn't be an issue but I don't like small phones so it's an automatic no for me.
    11-04-2019 05:07 PM
  17. TgeekB's Avatar
    The fact that people are discussing battery life so much isn’t a good sign.
    Smply_Rckless and Golurk like this.
    11-04-2019 05:11 PM
  18. B. Diddy's Avatar
    I wonder -- is it a lot worse than the Pixels 1, 2, and 3? (The non-XL versions.)
    11-04-2019 05:14 PM
  19. Mike Dee's Avatar
    I wonder -- is it a lot worse than the Pixels 1, 2, and 3? (The non-XL versions.)
    I don't know for sure but I doubt it's a lot worse. Of course, first we have to define a lot worse. My suggestion to anyone that's overly concerned is to avoid it or at least wait for more feedback.
    11-04-2019 05:32 PM
  20. me just saying's Avatar
    11-04-2019 05:40 PM
  21. kolyan2k's Avatar
    Some say it's horrible, others say it's fine. It's a tuff call if you can't top off during the day. For me it wouldn't be an issue but I don't like small phones so it's an automatic no for me.
    I would say most say its horrible

    I can top off, but its been a pain with Pixel 3. I was constantly running out and even with some topping off I was still with 30% in the early evening and had to head out for the night etc. 18w changer also doesn't help where most others use 25+ I think.
    11-04-2019 06:52 PM
  22. mustang7757's Avatar
    Some say it's horrible, others say it's fine. It's a tuff call if you can't top off during the day. For me it wouldn't be an issue but I don't like small phones so it's an automatic no for me.
    You should been a politician
    Golurk likes this.
    11-04-2019 06:56 PM
  23. DJM626's Avatar
    I've been on the Pixel 4 since Saturday and I am averaging about 5.5 hours of time. Plenty for me. Coming from the original pixel that had to be charged 3 or 4 times a day, this is a blessing. I also invested in a power bank from Anker which can recharge my phone several times. Not a power user here by any means but this phone meets my expectations. Sure, I would have loved to have seen a bigger battery in the phone as well, and could have opted for the XL but as a guy I don't feel like toting something that size around. Like to use my phones one handed and certainly can't do that with the larger one. I will sacrifice batter life for a phone that is comfortable to me, plus I am around chargers and outlets all day long at work to really worry about it.

    Will probably keep this phone for a year and hope that next year if Google really wants to copy Apple, they include a larger battery in the smaller model. Just because certain people choose to use a smaller phone should not mean that we have to suffer because of our choice. Battery life should be equally as good in the smaller model. Happy about everything about this phone so far. Sure Google could have done some things better but every phone has its shortcomings. There is no perfect phone out there yet. Don't kid yourselves LOL
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    11-04-2019 07:15 PM
  24. robtani's Avatar
    @B. Diddy

    I can pretty safely say it was WORSE than all previous non-XL Pixels. No doubt about it... I would say usage battery drain is on par with the original Pixel but then the Standby drain is worse. Keep in mind.. I'm basing this on recollection and not one on one comparison. I got rid of the original Pixel long ago.
    11-04-2019 07:19 PM
  25. robtani's Avatar
    @DJM626,
    You're averaging 5.5 hrs of SOT?? Can you talk a little about the setup you have?? Dark theme everywhere? Bluetooth? WiFi?
    I had even gone as far as disabling NFC, account sync, and force stopping most apps that I wasn't regularly using.

    It's too late for me as I returned it already but really curious and perhaps it could help others too.
    11-04-2019 07:20 PM
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