[slave]

SNIPPED

I thought the same exact thing.
These threads annoy the Hell out of me. This is all knowledge, so it leads me to believe these folks

A> Never bought the phone, but want to troll.
B> Bought the phone just to say they did, then take it back, then bash it.

I legit, don't get it.

[Mike Dee]

You are right this has not been as rampant as in other threads in the past. Since December there have only been three threads letting everyone here know that they have made a personal decision and switched their phones. Mike because you think it is okay is why it will continue. Threads like this never shine new light on anything, they only make everyone chime in to say their battery is okay and they have no lag. All of the reasons cited are regurgitated discussions of prior postings and most were known prior to purchase. It has as much relevance as me going on the Tesla site and stating I sold my Tesla for a Chevy because the Tesla is electric.

-No Finger Print reader. This would not be a big issue if more apps worked with the face recognition. But constantly having to either enter my password or use my password manager is really grating. * Obvious prior to purchase*

-Battery life. While the oneplus is no long life master, the Pixel does a terrible job getting me through the day. *Ad Nauseum*

-Charging speed. Just not fast enough on the Pixel. *Preference*

-No Wide Angle lens. Did not realize how much I would miss that, but On my recent vacation I found myself missing it. *Ad Nauseum, obvious pre-purchase*

-Lag. Within the first couple days I noticed lag on the Pixel 4xl and I could not believe it. Shouldn't be a RAM issue with 6GB, so who knows. *Might have merit*

-Storage. 128GB is just not enough without expandable storage for my use. *Knew that going in*

So I ordered a Oneplus 7tPro and it will be here Thursday *No relevance*

Threads don't continue because anyone thinks they are OK. They continue because people want to engage in discussion and all is fair as long as topics and content stay within the forum rules. It's not for me or anyone else to decide which are OK to create. There are plenty of topics that don't need to be regurgitated, but we aren't going to solve that here.

[Mike Dee]

I thought the same exact thing.
These threads annoy the Hell out of me. This is all knowledge, so it leads me to believe these folks

A> Never bought the phone, but want to troll.
B> Bought the phone just to say they did, then take it back, then bash it.

I legit, don't get it.

If a thread annoys me I simply don't particpate.

[o4liberty]

From reading reviews on the pixel4 I would definitely not purchase one. This has to be the worst pixel to date Google needs to step up and fix these issues ASAP especially what the device cost to purchase.

[eric002]

From reading reviews on the pixel4 I would definitely not purchase one. This has to be the worst pixel to date Google needs to step up and fix these issues ASAP especially what the device cost to purchase.

Unfortunately, even though I absolutely love Google Pixel phones, I must agree with you to an extent on your opinion. I love my 3XL, but there are so many wavering opinions on both sides of the spectrum regarding the phone...

[Mike Dee]

From reading reviews on the pixel4 I would definitely not purchase one. This has to be the worst pixel to date Google needs to step up and fix these issues ASAP especially what the device cost to purchase.

What specifically do feel makes it the worst Pixel based on the reviews you've read?

[davidnc]

Mine works great for me :

No FPS = No problem . I knew that before I bought it.

Battery Life = gets me though my day without having to recharge .

Charging Speeds = chargers pretty fast for me ,,way lots faster then my Xr does

Wide Angle Lens = no problem knew that before I bought it . I would have been nice, but not a deal breaker

Lag = What lag ?? I dont have any

Storage = Again I knew what that was before I bought it

I don't really solely on YouTubers as experts on phones. NO way would I use their "expert advice" alone to purchase any phone.

I do read and review what is being said from various places , others who own it before I ( but usually I order on launch day so not to many do )

Also I agree with "get what you like, not just what others like" either. Everyone is different nothing wrong with that

[mustang7757]

Mine works great for me :

No FPS = No problem . I knew that before I bought it.

Battery Life = gets me though my day without having to recharge .

Charging Speeds = chargers pretty fast for me ,,way lots faster then my Xr does

Wide Angle Lens = no problem knew that before I bought it . I would have been nice, but not a deal breaker

Lag = What lag ?? I dont have any

Storage = Again I knew what that was before I bought it

I don't really solely on YouTubers as experts on phones. NO way would I use their "expert advice" alone to purchase any phone.

I do read and review what is being said from various places , others who own it before I ( but usually I order on launch day so not to many do )

Also I agree with "get what you like, not just what others like" either. Everyone is different nothing wrong with that

I agree , same here

[Kizzy Catwoman]

Mine works great for me :

No FPS = No problem . I knew that before I bought it.

Battery Life = gets me though my day without having to recharge .

Charging Speeds = chargers pretty fast for me ,,way lots faster then my Xr does

Wide Angle Lens = no problem knew that before I bought it . I would have been nice, but not a deal breaker

Lag = What lag ?? I dont have any

Storage = Again I knew what that was before I bought it

I don't really solely on YouTubers as experts on phones. NO way would I use their "expert advice" alone to purchase any phone.

I do read and review what is being said from various places , others who own it before I ( but usually I order on launch day so not to many do )

Also I agree with "get what you like, not just what others like" either. Everyone is different nothing wrong with that

I agree with this. Have had a couple of issues but I don't regret buying my phone. The lag went with a reboot and the face unlock can be spotty but again it isn't a deal breaker.

I bought the Pixel in spite of the reviews and I am glad I did. I love my Pixel 2XL but the 4XL is a definite upgrade. And that is why I am happy with it.

[Nikholas Pappas]

You are right this has not been as rampant as in other threads in the past. Since December there have only been three threads letting everyone here know that they have made a personal decision and switched their phones. Mike because you think it is okay is why it will continue. Threads like this never shine new light on anything, they only make everyone chime in to say their battery is okay and they have no lag. All of the reasons cited are regurgitated discussions of prior postings and most were known prior to purchase. It has as much relevance as me going on the Tesla site and stating I sold my Tesla for a Chevy because the Tesla is electric.

-No Finger Print reader. This would not be a big issue if more apps worked with the face recognition. But constantly having to either enter my password or use my password manager is really grating. * Obvious prior to purchase*

-Battery life. While the oneplus is no long life master, the Pixel does a terrible job getting me through the day. *Ad Nauseum*

-Charging speed. Just not fast enough on the Pixel. *Preference*

-No Wide Angle lens. Did not realize how much I would miss that, but On my recent vacation I found myself missing it. *Ad Nauseum, obvious pre-purchase*

-Lag. Within the first couple days I noticed lag on the Pixel 4xl and I could not believe it. Shouldn't be a RAM issue with 6GB, so who knows. *Might have merit*

-Storage. 128GB is just not enough without expandable storage for my use. *Knew that going in*

So I ordered a Oneplus 7tPro and it will be here Thursday *No relevance*

Yes, the fingerprint reader was known going in to the purchase, but then, who would have thought 3 months later that apps still would not be updated to use Face ID?

Faster charging is a preference? I think everyone would prefer to have something charge faster rather than slower

Yes it is obvious it didn't have a wide angle lens, but as I said, I did not realize how much I would miss it until I didnt have it. Food for though.

What I am choosing over the pixel might have relevance to anyone considering buying a new pixel and reading this thread.

And what about my addition that the New assistant does not work if you use GSuite? Is that common knowledge?

[Nikholas Pappas]

Mine works great for me :

No FPS = No problem . I knew that before I bought it.

Charging Speeds = chargers pretty fast for me ,,way lots faster then my Xr does

Lag = What lag ?? I dont have any

Again, I don't have a problem with not having a fingerprint reader. I have a problem with not being able to use the FaceID to authenticate in apps.

For your XR, Are you using the 5 Watt charger it comes with? The Xr is capable of charging at 18w just like the Pixel 4. Downside is you need to buy a USB-C to lightning cable and have an 18w capable charger to go with it. But when using an 18w Charger, charging speed on the Xr should be on Par with the Pixel 4

Lag. There are times(Not constantly but a couple times a day) when I will tap to open an app and .5 to 2 whole seconds will go by before it opens. Same to some extent going through menus where I will get .5-1.5 second lags. Maybe It is just isolated to me if you never experience anything like this.

All of my qualms with this stem from previous experience with a phone that I didn't have any of these issues.

[davidnc]

Again, I don't have a problem with not having a fingerprint reader. I have a problem with not being able to use the FaceID to authenticate in apps.

For your XR, Are you using the 5 Watt charger it comes with? The Xr is capable of charging at 18w just like the Pixel 4. Downside is you need to buy a USB-C to lightning cable and have an 18w capable charger to go with it. But when using an 18w Charger, charging speed on the Xr should be on Par with the Pixel 4

Lag. There are times(Not constantly but a couple times a day) when I will tap to open an app and .5 to 2 whole seconds will go by before it opens. Same to some extent going through menus where I will get .5-1.5 second lags. Maybe It is just isolated to me if you never experience anything like this.

All of my qualms with this stem from previous experience with a phone that I didn't have any of these issues.

Yes on the Xr being slower charging. That was meant to mean, as to the accessories which come in the box with the phone.

And what about my addition that the New assistant does not work if you use GSuite? Is that common knowledge?

I read that somewhere , so yeah I knew that as well.

[Nikholas Pappas]

Yes on the Xr being slower charging. That was meant to mean, as to the accessories which come in the box with the phone

Yeah, its ridiculous that Apple only includes a 5w charger lol

[mustang7757]

Again, I don't have a problem with not having a fingerprint reader. I have a problem with not being able to use the FaceID to authenticate in apps.

For your XR, Are you using the 5 Watt charger it comes with? The Xr is capable of charging at 18w just like the Pixel 4. Downside is you need to buy a USB-C to lightning cable and have an 18w capable charger to go with it. But when using an 18w Charger, charging speed on the Xr should be on Par with the Pixel 4

Lag. There are times(Not constantly but a couple times a day) when I will tap to open an app and .5 to 2 whole seconds will go by before it opens. Same to some extent going through menus where I will get .5-1.5 second lags. Maybe It is just isolated to me if you never experience anything like this.

All of my qualms with this stem from previous experience with a phone that I didn't have any of these issues.

For that lag you should monitor it in safe mode , most likely was a app issue.

[Nikholas Pappas]

For that lag you should monitor it in safe mode , most likely was a app issue.

Possibly, but why would it not show up on another phone with the exact same apps and set up?

[mustang7757]

Possibly, but why would it not show up on another phone with the exact same apps and set up?

Good point , maybe another phone different operating system who knows , but any time something like that I would use safe mode .

[B_Chadwick Ware]

I love my pixel 4 xl and the pixel 4 xl has been nothing but amazing for me. I get 6-7 hours of SOT on average with my usage and does everything I need. I do wish more apps supported face ID but I know this will change probably not while i own the p4 bc it will probably take like 2 years for developers to hop on board. Regardless my experience has been fantastic.

Your points are valid use cases and it does seem like the one plus will be a better fit for you. Good luck.

Same here. No issues or complaints for me.

[Mike Dee]

Yeah, its ridiculous that Apple only includes a 5w charger lol

They now include a fast charger with the 11

[eric002]

They now include a fast charger with the 11

Well, that's good! As apple should for the price of their flagship phones!

[Nikholas Pappas]

Is that with all the 11 line or just the 11 Pro?

[anon(50597)]

Well, that's good! As apple should for the price of their flagship phones!

The batteries in the latest iPhones are amazing. There’s really no need for a fast charger.

[nikholaspappas]

Looks like the fast charger is only on the Pro models.

And I don't care how long your battery lasts, when you need a charge you always want it fast lol

[Mike Dee]

The batteries in the latest iPhones are amazing. There’s really no need for a fast charger.

Not true for everyone's use case.

[eric002]

The batteries in the latest iPhones are amazing. There’s really no need for a fast charger.

Oh well that's good to know.

[slave]

If a thread annoys me I simply don't particpate.

Being annoyed is great for debate. it makes you ask questions.