1. Nikholas Pappas's Avatar
    Gave the Pixel 4xl 5 weeks to convince me, but I am going back to OnePlus. Here are my issues.

    -No Finger Print reader. This would not be a big issue if more apps worked with the face recognition. But constantly having to either enter my password or use my password manager is really grating.

    -Dual Sim Management. I use 2 sim cards and I understand this is not a widespread issue. But, There is no one touch data switch on the Pixel, and you cannot deactivate the physical sim in software, you must remove it. This sucks.

    -Battery life. While the oneplus is no long life master, the Pixel does a terrible job getting me through the day.

    -Charging speed. Just not fast enough on the Pixel.

    -No Wide Angle lens. Did not realize how much I would miss that, but On my recent vacation I found myself missing it.

    -Lag. Within the first couple days I noticed lag on the Pixel 4xl and I could not believe it. Shouldn't be a RAM issue with 6GB, so who knows.

    -Storage. 128GB is just not enough without expandable storage for my use.

    So I ordered a Oneplus 7tPro and it will be here Thursday
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    01-14-2020 06:49 PM
  2. dtones39's Avatar
    I just ordered a Note 10+ 5G, I've always wanted to try a note out but haven't yet and I'm already bored of the P4 XL. Really love the 90hz display but that is about it. Anyone else go from a pixel 4 to note 10+?
    01-14-2020 07:05 PM
  3. Peter Scooze's Avatar
    I just ordered a Note 10+ 5G, I've always wanted to try a note out but haven't yet and I'm already bored of the P4 XL. Really love the 90hz display but that is about it. Anyone else go from a pixel 4 to note 10+?
    I have a note 10+ that i got in an emergency before i went on a two week trip. my new pixel 4xl broke down twice and got repaired twice before Google would replace it and i wouldn't have gotten the pixel back in time for my trip. Was never a Samsung fan but gotta say i absolutely love the note 10+. Its an amazing phone. U wont be disappointed
    01-14-2020 07:16 PM
  4. dmxjago's Avatar
    I love my pixel 4 xl and the pixel 4 xl has been nothing but amazing for me. I get 6-7 hours of SOT on average with my usage and does everything I need. I do wish more apps supported face ID but I know this will change probably not while i own the p4 bc it will probably take like 2 years for developers to hop on board. Regardless my experience has been fantastic.

    Your points are valid use cases and it does seem like the one plus will be a better fit for you. Good luck.
    01-14-2020 07:31 PM
  5. mustang7757's Avatar
    I love my pixel 4 xl and the pixel 4 xl has been nothing but amazing for me. I get 6-7 hours of SOT on average with my usage and does everything I need. I do wish more apps supported face ID but I know this will change probably not while i own the p4 bc it will probably take like 2 years for developers to hop on board. Regardless my experience has been fantastic.

    Your points are valid use cases and it does seem like the one plus will be a better fit for you. Good luck.
    Same , runs extremely well.. battery life a day like with my 1+7pro with 90hz all the time
    01-14-2020 07:35 PM
  6. Peter Scooze's Avatar
    I love my pixel 4 xl and the pixel 4 xl has been nothing but amazing for me. I get 6-7 hours of SOT on average with my usage and does everything I need. I do wish more apps supported face ID but I know this will change probably not while i own the p4 bc it will probably take like 2 years for developers to hop on board. Regardless my experience has been fantastic.

    Your points are valid use cases and it does seem like the one plus will be a better fit for you. Good luck.
    Definitely agree on that. Never used a one plus so cant comment. Just use my pixel and now note 10 for videos.
    01-14-2020 07:42 PM
  7. dtones39's Avatar
    I was messing with it at Best Buy and the screen is amazing, also got the 5G in hopes I get better service in my building.
    I have a note 10+ that i got in an emergency before i went on a two week trip. my new pixel 4xl broke down twice and got repaired twice before Google would replace it and i wouldn't have gotten the pixel back in time for my trip. Was never a Samsung fan but gotta say i absolutely love the note 10+. Its an amazing phone. U wont be disappointed
    01-14-2020 07:49 PM
  8. Peter Scooze's Avatar
    I was messing with it at Best Buy and the screen is amazing, also got the 5G in hopes I get better service in my building.
    Screen is amazing. Battery is good to. You'll def like it. Enjoy
    01-14-2020 07:57 PM
  9. TgeekB's Avatar
    I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a wide variation in comments on a phone in my life.

    The battery sucks.
    The battery is great.

    The face detection doesn’t work well.
    The face detection works perfectly.

    I seem to believe it’s somewhere in the middle. As others have said we all have to find what works best for us.
    thejesse, ezdoit, J Dubbs and 2 others like this.
    01-14-2020 08:08 PM
  10. Peter Scooze's Avatar
    I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a wide variation in comments on a phone in my life.

    The battery sucks.
    The battery is great.

    The face detection doesn’t work well.
    The face detection works perfectly.

    I seem to believe it’s somewhere in the middle. As others have said we all have to find what works best for us.
    Agreed its all about personal preference. I see ppl though defending there choice so hard they bash everyone else who uses something different. Everyone has different experiences with different phones due to needs. The truth is there's so many great phones to choose from. no choice is wrong if it works for u.
    TgeekB, thejesse, J Dubbs and 3 others like this.
    01-14-2020 08:15 PM
  11. nikholaspappas's Avatar
    I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a wide variation in comments on a phone in my life.

    The battery sucks.
    The battery is great.

    The face detection doesn’t work well.
    The face detection works perfectly.

    I seem to believe it’s somewhere in the middle. As others have said we all have to find what works best for us.
    To be clear, the face detection works perfectly well for me. The problem is that there are not many apps that accept the face unlock as a valid credential. So when you open the app, it does not even prompt you for face unlock, you simply must put in your password.
    N4Newbie likes this.
    01-15-2020 02:31 AM
  12. subguy812's Avatar
    I would never question why someone likes or dislikes anything as it is always subjective. However, I would question why folks have to regularly come on a thread dedicated to the device they are dropping to let everyone else know that
    JHStewart1023 likes this.
    01-15-2020 05:55 AM
  13. Mike Dee's Avatar
    I would never question why someone likes or dislikes anything as it is always subjective. However, I would question why folks have to regularly come on a thread dedicated to the device they are dropping to let everyone else know that
    I don't find anything wrong with someone creating a thread or posting in a thread that they are dropping device. It opens up discussion and as long as it doesn't become a bash thread and remains civil I'm ok with it.
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    01-15-2020 06:31 AM
  14. eric002's Avatar
    Agreed its all about personal preference. I see ppl though defending there choice so hard they bash everyone else who uses something different. Everyone has different experiences with different phones due to needs. The truth is there's so many great phones to choose from. no choice is wrong if it works for u.
    I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a wide variation in comments on a phone in my life.

    The battery sucks.
    The battery is great.

    The face detection doesn’t work well.
    The face detection works perfectly.

    I seem to believe it’s somewhere in the middle. As others have said we all have to find what works best for us.
    Agreed! I see both ends of the spectrum. I mean I will say this much, application support for the fingerprint scanner versus fish recognition is going to be different. Facial recognition on the pixel fours is brand new. Developers have to recode the application to support facial recognition on pixel 4. I will say that the fingerprint scanner in my 3XL is fast and secure. What more could you possibly want from it? As far as the other issues with the Pixel 4 XL. The only other main issue I could possibly think of unless you're a power user the battery. Most people I would just get about a day or so a battery out of the four XL though. I mean sure, OnePlus phones have more stock customization than Pixel phones do. So does Samsung Galaxy. And yes, no 10 phones just got Android 10. It's all about the clean user experience. At the end of the day , all about what you want That's it!
    01-15-2020 09:30 AM
  15. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Agreed! I see both ends of the spectrum. I mean I will say this much, application support for the fingerprint scanner versus fish recognition is going to be different.........
    I think fish recognition is a great feature. I sometimes have trouble determining the difference between a fluke and a flounder.
    holz75, aximtreo, IBJammin and 2 others like this.
    01-15-2020 09:42 AM
  16. eric002's Avatar
    I think fish recognition is a great feature. I sometimes have trouble determining the difference between a fluke and a flounder.
    Haha yeah me too, my fault* facial recognition...
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    01-15-2020 09:44 AM
  17. osubeavs728's Avatar
    I would never question why someone likes or dislikes anything as it is always subjective. However, I would question why folks have to regularly come on a thread dedicated to the device they are dropping to let everyone else know that
    Attached Thumbnails Giving up on the Pixel 4XL-70.jpg  
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    01-15-2020 09:48 AM
  18. nikholaspappas's Avatar
    I would never question why someone likes or dislikes anything as it is always subjective. However, I would question why folks have to regularly come on a thread dedicated to the device they are dropping to let everyone else know that
    Perhaps there are other people like me who, before they buy a phone, read through forums to see the pros and cons others have experienced before making a purchase.
    aximtreo likes this.
    01-15-2020 05:32 PM
  19. nikholaspappas's Avatar
    Another quick issue to point out, the really cool new Google Assistant that comes with the pixel 4 does not work if you are using an Enterprise GSuite account, like for work or school. It reverts back to the standard assistant.
    mustang7757 and eric002 like this.
    01-15-2020 05:35 PM
  20. mustang7757's Avatar
    Another quick issue to point out, the really cool new Google Assistant that comes with the pixel 4 does not work if you are using an Enterprise GSuite account, like for work or school. It reverts back to the standard assistant.
    Good to know ..
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    01-15-2020 06:01 PM
  21. nikholaspappas's Avatar
    Good to know ..
    Lol yes it was driving me nuts trying to figure out how to turn it on. Hopefully it's something they get working in the future.
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    01-15-2020 07:39 PM
  22. mustang7757's Avatar
    Lol yes it was driving me nuts trying to figure out how to turn it on. Hopefully it's something they get working in the future.
    Definitely to trace that probably took some time .
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    01-15-2020 07:45 PM
  23. PowrDroid's Avatar
    I think fish recognition is a great feature. I sometimes have trouble determining the difference between a fluke and a flounder.
    Yeah, Google Lens is great!
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    01-15-2020 09:00 PM
  24. Kirstein Gourlay's Avatar
    I think a mobile phone is a personal choice. We all have different use cases and different phones offer different experiences. Face ID is a bit hit and miss for me and I have suffered with lag. But on the whole I love my Pixel 4xl. Samsung just offers too much compromise for me and I love the simplicity of my phone. The camera is amazing and I spend a lot of time taking photos of my cats. The screen is great and I run mind on 90Hz all the time. Battery life varies but I am at home all day and have a pixel stand to charge it.

    I would love a Note or an S10 but I will not buy a phone with an Exynos chip. And I don't like the curved screen too much. I also don't like the Samsung apps and I use the pixel specific extras. I would miss them.

    I used Button Mapper to allow me to activate the assistant when the screen is off with a gesture. I love the new assistant and I like the face ID even though it can be hit and miss.

    But these are my preferences and won't be the same for other people.
    01-15-2020 11:19 PM
  25. subguy812's Avatar
    I don't find anything wrong with someone creating a thread or posting in a thread that they are dropping device. It opens up discussion and as long as it doesn't become a bash thread and remains civil I'm ok with it.
    You are right this has not been as rampant as in other threads in the past. Since December there have only been three threads letting everyone here know that they have made a personal decision and switched their phones. Mike because you think it is okay is why it will continue. Threads like this never shine new light on anything, they only make everyone chime in to say their battery is okay and they have no lag. All of the reasons cited are regurgitated discussions of prior postings and most were known prior to purchase. It has as much relevance as me going on the Tesla site and stating I sold my Tesla for a Chevy because the Tesla is electric.

    -No Finger Print reader. This would not be a big issue if more apps worked with the face recognition. But constantly having to either enter my password or use my password manager is really grating. * Obvious prior to purchase*

    -Battery life. While the oneplus is no long life master, the Pixel does a terrible job getting me through the day. *Ad Nauseum*

    -Charging speed. Just not fast enough on the Pixel. *Preference*

    -No Wide Angle lens. Did not realize how much I would miss that, but On my recent vacation I found myself missing it. *Ad Nauseum, obvious pre-purchase*

    -Lag. Within the first couple days I noticed lag on the Pixel 4xl and I could not believe it. Shouldn't be a RAM issue with 6GB, so who knows. *Might have merit*

    -Storage. 128GB is just not enough without expandable storage for my use. *Knew that going in*

    So I ordered a Oneplus 7tPro and it will be here Thursday *No relevance*
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    01-16-2020 06:40 AM
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