11-09-2021 07:24 PM
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  1. PaulQ's Avatar
    I have a 20-watt charging cube and I just bought a 30 watt one from Anker. They both seem to charge at the same rate based on the estimated time to complete the charge and via a battery app that reports the rate. I tested at around 60% battery left then again at 87% left, this time using the cable that came with the phone. There's no difference.

    I don't have the battery/charger knowledge to address this. Does anyone know what's going on? The Pixel 6 is supposed to benefit from 30 watt charging, right?

    This is the 30 watt one I just bought: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...0?ie=UTF8&th=1

    Thanks, everyone!
    10-30-2021 08:46 PM
  2. GTvert90's Avatar
    I just skimmed the listing but I didn't see any mention of that charger being PPS. I believe you need a charger that supports PPS to take full advantage
    10-30-2021 08:57 PM
  3. Climb14er's Avatar
    Anker 30w ...They told me it is compatible for fast charging speeds for the 6Pro. As mentioned before, it charges the same as the Anker 18w.
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    10-30-2021 09:03 PM
  4. fuzzylumpkin's Avatar
    You won't see any difference above 60% because fast charging operates on a curve. By the time it gets to 60% the phone will already be drawing less than 20W from a 30W charger.

    And that's assuming the charger and phone have a compatible profile.
    10-30-2021 09:06 PM
  5. PaulQ's Avatar
    I just skimmed the listing but I didn't see any mention of that charger being PPS. I believe you need a charger that supports PPS to take full advantage
    Thanks... I was hoping that was it so I went and tried the charger I use to "superfast charge" my Galaxy devices which is listed as having PPS, I got the same charging speed and time on the Pixel 6 Pro (around 2300 mA with Ampere). Do you think it only works with Google's charger?

    It does say it's charging rapidly in all of these cases.
    10-30-2021 09:14 PM
  6. PaulQ's Avatar
    You won't see any difference above 60% because fast charging operates on a curve. By the time it gets to 60% the phone will already be drawing less than 20W from a 30W charger.

    And that's assuming the charger and phone have a compatible profile.
    Ah. I'll try again when the battery is more depleted. Trying to decide if I should keep the new Anker charger. Thanks all!
    10-30-2021 09:15 PM
  7. GTvert90's Avatar
    Thanks... I was hoping that was it so I went and tried the charger I use to "superfast charge" my Galaxy devices which is listed as having PPS, I got the same charging speed and time on the Pixel 6 Pro (around 2300 mA with Ampere). Do you think it only works with Google's charger?

    It does say it's charging rapidly in all of these cases.
    As fuzzy mentioned. I'd definitely try with a more depleted battery and see what the results are.

    I have a PPS car charger coming tomorrow. I'm hoping to see better results
    10-30-2021 09:16 PM
  8. Mooncatt's Avatar
    You won't see any difference above 60% because fast charging operates on a curve. By the time it gets to 60% the phone will already be drawing less than 20W from a 30W charger.

    And that's assuming the charger and phone have a compatible profile.
    Bingo. Li-ion charging protocol dictates that the charge rate slows as the battery fills. Think of it like filling a bucket with a fire hose. Keep going at full pressure, it'll spill water once near the top as it splashes over. Turn the fire hose down to a stream, and you can fill right to the brim.
    10-30-2021 09:22 PM
  9. PaulQ's Avatar
    I'll try all three later on and report back. (20W, 30W, 65W PPS).
    10-30-2021 09:27 PM
  10. travaz's Avatar
    I am by no means a power user and normally get through a whole day. Until I got the Pixel 5. Worse battery ever and i have to charge 2 or so times a day. Having said that I think i will stay with my current google charger (from Pixel 5) I dont think I am going to spring for a new charger as i hope the larger battery will last me all day.
    10-30-2021 09:34 PM
  11. Chex313's Avatar
    I am by no means a power user and normally get through a whole day. Until I got the Pixel 5. Worse battery ever and i have to charge 2 or so times a day. Having said that I think i will stay with my current google charger (from Pixel 5) I dont think I am going to spring for a new charger as i hope the larger battery will last me all day.
    My P5 still has great battery
    10-30-2021 11:33 PM
  12. Jeremy8000's Avatar
    Ah. I'll try again when the battery is more depleted. Trying to decide if I should keep the new Anker charger. Thanks all!
    The Anker charger you listed does not support PPS. Try this one, which is PD3.0 and supports PPS - it should work fine, and is tiny (Google's is cheaper, if size isn't a concern).

    https://amazon.com/dp/B091DS2M8X/?ta...cUvbUpU7000209
    10-31-2021 01:46 AM
  13. PaulQ's Avatar
    Here's the report... Starting at 26% battery, which caused the phone to charge faster in general.

    Both the 20 watt and 30 watt chargers charge at the same rate, around 3700 mA
    The PPS charger that I used with my Samsung charges much faster at around 4600 mA.

    So, you guys are right about PPS (not that I doubted you, just wanted to report the findings.)
    I'll have to return this Anker charger. I love how flat it is but it doesn't it has no speed advantage.
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    10-31-2021 01:22 PM
  14. PaulQ's Avatar
    The Anker charger you listed does not support PPS. Try this one, which is PD3.0 and supports PPS - it should work fine, and is tiny (Google's is cheaper, if size isn't a concern).

    https://amazon.com/dp/B091DS2M8X/?ta...cUvbUpU7000491
    Thanks! I will look at both.
    10-31-2021 01:24 PM
  15. Jeremy8000's Avatar
    Thanks! I will look at both.
    Another to look at is this:

    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...cUvbUpU7000782

    It's actually smaller than even the Nano II and supports both PD 3.0 and PPS, for only $20 (plus $4 shipping, and tax).
    10-31-2021 11:32 PM
  16. GTvert90's Avatar
    Here a comparison between my 24w RavPower PD car charger and the new 46w PPS charger I picked up
    11-01-2021 05:33 PM
  17. nelamvr6's Avatar
    Here a comparison between my 24w RavPower PD car charger and the new 46w PPS charger I picked up [IMG=360x780]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211101/f74fa768a9fb7b26de2a111980496adc.jpg[/url][IMG=360x780]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211101/e5b321ed59d5b1c08b0dde8564474c07.jpg[/url]
    How can they claim a minimum amperage rating? Current isn't pushed, it's drawn by the circuit...
    11-01-2021 06:23 PM
  18. Mooncatt's Avatar
    How can they claim a minimum amperage rating? Current isn't pushed, it's drawn by the circuit...
    That shows the minimum and maximum pulled during that charging session, not the capabilities of the phone or charger.
    11-01-2021 06:26 PM
  19. nelamvr6's Avatar
    That shows the minimum and maximum pulled during that charging session, not the capabilities of the phone or charger.
    Ah, now I understand. Thanks!
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    11-01-2021 06:32 PM
  20. fuzzylumpkin's Avatar
    Ampere doesn't seem like a very good way of measuring charge rate, given that it doesn't track input voltage.
    11-01-2021 07:52 PM
  21. PaulQ's Avatar
    Here a comparison between my 24w RavPower PD car charger and the new 46w PPS charger I picked up
    I'm curious - how long after you plugged it in did you take this screenshot? I am finding I get the high numbers soon after I plug in but they drop by roughly half about 30-60 seconds later (2100mA or so) and continue at that level. My phone had 28-35% battery level.
    11-06-2021 12:07 PM
  22. GTvert90's Avatar
    Not long, I waited for them to stop climbing, then when they had very little fluctuation I took the screen shot
    11-06-2021 12:18 PM
  23. B. Diddy's Avatar
    See this article: https://9to5google.com/2021/11/05/pi...rate-analysis/
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    11-06-2021 01:51 PM
  24. GoNavy79's Avatar
    So it's maxed at 22w? That's fine with me. With my P6 I usually use the 18w charger that came with my P5a. It charges plenty fast for me. My 25w Samsung charger is a bit faster up to about 80%, then slows WAY down. Takes about an hour to go from 80% to 100%.
    11-06-2021 05:11 PM
  25. B. Diddy's Avatar
    I'm sure this will become the brouhaha-of-the-day for the Pixel 6. Maybe the bad press will spur Google to work on it and perhaps fix it in an upcoming patch.

    Personally, I don't really care, since I'm not interested in ultra-fast charging. But I can see why many people would want it.
    RETG likes this.
    11-06-2021 05:35 PM
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