10-18-2022 02:24 PM
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  1. Android Central Question's Avatar
    buy pixel 7 pro from att or google?

    the "free" to me pixel 7 pro w/pixel 4a trade in on att seems sweet.

    iirc, the att versions have bloatware and not rapid upgrades/updates. i've bought new from google since "nexus s"...

    i'm not sure i want to effectively pay $500 to google to avoid bloatware and get instant upgrades/updates. can we now kill bloatware ourselves.

    thought?

    ideas?
    Morty2264 likes this.
    10-10-2022 10:55 AM
  2. VidJunky's Avatar
    Welcome to Android Central.

    I'm not sure if it is worth $500 to be free of bloat but the best deal is the best deal...

    You know who you should talk to other Pixel owners. They can put in their two cents as well as their experiences. There's a Pixel forum here and we can ask to have your thread moved to that forum, @mustang7757.

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    10-14-2022 11:52 AM
  3. mustang7757's Avatar
    [Moved this to pixel 7 Forums]
    10-14-2022 12:05 PM
  4. bhatech's Avatar
    Personal opinion - never buy anything from crappy carriers. Direct OEM from Google/Apple/Samsung, don't want any transaction with carriers other than network

    That's just me and in the very tiny negligible minority

    Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using Tapatalk
    10-14-2022 12:16 PM
  5. mookiekillsit's Avatar
    Better resale value if it's from Google if this is something you want to consider.
    10-14-2022 01:28 PM
  6. bkeaver's Avatar
    Better resale value if it's from Google if this is something you want to consider.
    Not when it comes with a pixel. There is literally no difference between Google store and carrier. Carrier units are networked locked, however once they are unlocked the difference is no longer there.

    Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using Tapatalk
    J Dubbs likes this.
    10-14-2022 02:31 PM
  7. Jeremy8000's Avatar
    buy pixel 7 pro from att or google?

    the "free" to me pixel 7 pro w/pixel 4a trade in on att seems sweet.

    iirc, the att versions have bloatware and not rapid upgrades/updates. i've bought new from google since "nexus s"...

    i'm not sure i want to effectively pay $500 to google to avoid bloatware and get instant upgrades/updates. can we now kill bloatware ourselves.

    thought?

    ideas?
    1. If that 'free' comes in the form of billing you each month for 24 or 36 months for the phone but with offsetting credits so you don't actually come out of pocket, just be aware that if you want to change phones (trading in for something else) or leave AT&T you'll almost certainly stop getting the credits and become responsible for any balance due. But if you are certain you will both stay with AT&T for whatever that term is, and that you will not want to upgrade again during that term, it's likely a better option.

    2. If you would be trading in at an AT&T store, basically while you still might have a return window you would not be able to get back your traded phone as it would've already been sent off to wherever they're processing trade-ins. With Google (and I would presume with AT&T if done through telephone or online trade-in), you would receive your new phone and have a period of time within which to send in the trade, affording you the option to keep it if you chose to return the new phone.
    10-14-2022 03:17 PM
  8. ezdoit's Avatar
    1. If that 'free' comes in the form of billing you each month for 24 or 36 months for the phone but with offsetting credits so you don't actually come out of pocket, just be aware that if you want to change phones (trading in for something else) or leave AT&T you'll almost certainly stop getting the credits and become responsible for any balance due. But if you are certain you will both stay with AT&T for whatever that term is, and that you will not want to upgrade again during that term, it's likely a better option.

    2. If you would be trading in at an AT&T store, basically while you still might have a return window you would not be able to get back your traded phone as it would've already been sent off to wherever they're processing trade-ins. With Google (and I would presume with AT&T if done through telephone or online trade-in), you would receive your new phone and have a period of time within which to send in the trade, affording you the option to keep it if you chose to return the new phone.


    Very important
    10-14-2022 03:30 PM
  9. mookiekillsit's Avatar
    Not when it comes with a pixel. There is literally no difference between Google store and carrier. Carrier units are networked locked, however once they are unlocked the difference is no longer there.

    Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using Tapatalk
    Not sure how many regular users will know to unlock their phones though. Essentially, you are correct if that is done
    10-14-2022 03:46 PM
  10. Jeremy8000's Avatar
    Not when it comes with a pixel. There is literally no difference between Google store and carrier. Carrier units are networked locked, however once they are unlocked the difference is no longer there.

    Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using Tapatalk
    FWIW, in the USA, carriers are required by the FCC to unlock the phone on request if it is fully paid off.
    10-14-2022 04:01 PM
  11. bkeaver's Avatar
    FWIW, in the USA, carriers are required by the FCC to unlock the phone on request if it is fully paid off.
    Did you mean to quote me on this??? I know this, and was basically stating this.

    Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using Tapatalk
    10-14-2022 04:27 PM
  12. Davidoo's Avatar
    Personal opinion - never buy anything from crappy carriers. Direct OEM from Google/Apple/Samsung, don't want any transaction with carriers other than network

    That's just me and in the very tiny negligible minority

    Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using Tapatalk
    I mostly agree with you.....but if you buy the regular 7, not the Pro, you won't get mmWave 5G on Verizon unless you buy it from Verizon and I believe T-mobile is the same. All 7 Pros are capable of mmWave, so this only goes for the 7, and with Verizon you have to pay an extra $100 for the regular 7 to get it.
    10-14-2022 06:02 PM
  13. Morty2264's Avatar
    Welcome to Android Central! I dislike buying phones from carriers, but I do feel more inclined to now, with the amount of theft occurring surrounding tech deliveries. Can't go wrong with either -- though I too agree that bloat is annoying. Good luck, and keep us posted on what you decide!
    J Dubbs likes this.
    10-14-2022 10:25 PM
  14. J Dubbs's Avatar
    I don't buy carrier branded phones anymore because they use their control to disable features on the phone, just to make you pay for their version, and they install games and other ad supported apps without your permission, and come with invasive, resource hogging and data collecting apps you can't uninstall.

    That being said AT&T has updated my unlocked pixels like clockwork, I got the updates as soon as Google released them. I imagine the carrier version would be the same. And I think I've heard carrier pixels don't come with the same level of junk as other brands.... don't quote me on that though

    $500 is a substantial savings... and you can always unlock the phone down the road if you want to try another carrier.
    10-15-2022 05:54 AM
  15. bkeaver's Avatar
    I don't buy carrier branded phones anymore because they use their control to disable features on the phone, just to make you pay for their version, and they install games and other ad supported apps without your permission, and come with invasive, resource hogging and data collecting apps you can't uninstall.

    That being said AT&T has updated my unlocked pixels like clockwork, I got the updates as soon as Google released them. I imagine the carrier version would be the same. And I think I've heard carrier pixels don't come with the same level of junk as other brands.... don't quote me on that though

    $500 is a substantial savings... and you can always unlock the phone down the road if you want to try another carrier.
    To be fair, pixel phones don't follow the typical as they are not branded by the carrier.

    Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using Tapatalk
    J Dubbs likes this.
    10-15-2022 08:05 AM
  16. Stanley Kubrick's Avatar
    Bloat can be removed (hidden from user 0 which is you) with ADB. There are apps that utilize ADB with a GUI making it easier. I bought mine directly from Google so the few apps I do not use can either be deleted outright or disabled. But on my Samsung Galaxy Tab S7+ I used ADB to debloat. Works great!
    10-15-2022 10:01 AM
  17. bkeaver's Avatar
    Bloat can be removed (hidden from user 0 which is you) with ADB. There are apps that utilize ADB with a GUI making it easier. I bought mine directly from Google so the few apps I do not use can either be deleted outright or disabled. But on my Samsung Galaxy Tab S7+ I used ADB to debloat. Works great!
    Again carrier apps do not come on pixel phones. My P6P was from T-Mobile and had zero carrier installed apps.

    Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using Tapatalk
    revo2001 likes this.
    10-15-2022 12:26 PM
  18. dc52ltr's Avatar
    We're lucky here in the UK, all Google phones as far as I recall , even if they are supplied by a carrier, are unlocked...

    Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using AC Forums mobile app
    10-15-2022 04:19 PM
  19. wpbfjr's Avatar
    hi,

    i'm the OP.

    i did the $800 deal with att: xyz monthly $$ credit.

    i was stunned, and very happy, that NO bloatware was force placed on phone.

    no carrier issues for me. i've been with att, cellular one before that, +25 years. keeping up with plan promotions and the latest phone, it's dizzying to me. i'm much older now than when our south florida market was one of the first to get cellular service in the nation.

    best to all, dana
    bkdodger2, 1raygin and J Dubbs like this.
    10-15-2022 05:32 PM
  20. wpbfjr's Avatar
    hi,

    i'm the OP.

    i did the $800 deal with att: xyz monthly $$ credit.

    i was stunned, and very happy, that NO bloatware was force placed on phone.

    no carrier issues for me. i've been with att, cellular one before that, +25 years. keeping up with plan promotions and the latest phone, it's dizzying to me. i'm much older now than when our south florida market was one of the first to get cellular service in the nation.

    best to all, dana
    10-15-2022 05:32 PM
  21. joeldf's Avatar
    We're lucky here in the UK, all Google phones as far as I recall , even if they are supplied by a carrier, are unlocked...

    Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using AC Forums mobile app
    That's been the case for years now.

    Sent from my SM-G781U using Tapatalk
    10-15-2022 05:35 PM
  22. bkdodger2's Avatar
    hi,

    i'm the OP.

    i did the $800 deal with att: xyz monthly $$ credit.

    i was stunned, and very happy, that NO bloatware was force placed on phone.

    no carrier issues for me. i've been with att, cellular one before that, +25 years. keeping up with plan promotions and the latest phone, it's dizzying to me. i'm much older now than when our south florida market was one of the first to get cellular service in the nation.

    best to all, dana
    Congrats! Enjoy your new phone. I hope you get a lot of good use out of it and stick around the forums and check out the pixel 7 area
    J Dubbs likes this.
    10-15-2022 06:33 PM
  23. Beachboy63's Avatar
    My unlocked Pixel using Verizon came with several Verizon apps. I was able to uninstall all of them but they were on my phone after setup.

    Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using AC Forums mobile app
    10-15-2022 07:59 PM
  24. diesel97's Avatar
    My unlocked Pixel using Verizon came with several Verizon apps. I was able to uninstall all of them but they were on my phone after setup.

    Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using AC Forums mobile app
    Did you buy it from Google and put a Verizon sim card in it? That's all I did with an unlocked from Google and no apps were added
    10-15-2022 08:02 PM
  25. Beachboy63's Avatar
    Did you buy it from Gooogle and put a Verizon sim card in it? That's all I did with an unlocked from Google and no apps were added
    That's what I did. Bought directly from Google unlocked version and put my Verizon SIM in the phone. After set up, had My Verizon app, the Verizon text app and I believe one other Verizon app, all of which I deleted.

    Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using AC Forums mobile app
    10-15-2022 08:05 PM
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