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  1. Impulses's Avatar
    From the looks of it, Aukey's isn't even remotely PD compliant despite all their marketing about it...

    https://plus.google.com/102612254593...fSGt4?sfc=true

    I think you're better off with Belkin's or Verizon's PD chargers if you absolutely must have one and don't their price (and single port/device arrangement) OR the cheap Nekteck on Amazon...

    ...
    I should add, I wasn't trying to be an alarmist, if it's worked so far it's probably not an imminent danger... But the entire point of PD is the versatility to charge larger devices safely (or not, if the wattage isn't there, but still with a safe fail mode), it seems like plugging anything but your phone into the Aukey could trigger some pretty bad behavior.

    I have a sweet little 4.8A dual port charger from Aukey btw (old dual Type A), nothing against them... Even larger players like Anker have put out some shoddy Type C stuff and issued recalls in some cases. I imagine many of them pull from common suppliers or share manufacturing facilities etc.

    For instance, Monoprice's Type C cable specs are bogus top to bottom, not because the cables are bad (wouldn't know) but the specs just make no sense and were obviously cobbled together by some marketing lackey. They seem to equate charging ability with USB speed at times even tho there's no correlation...

    The OEM Pixel 6ft charge cable is USB 2.0 FYI, makes it far simpler/cheaper (lot less wires). Monoprice even has some adapters that blatantly violate the spec regardless of how they're wired. Again, I'm a big fan of Monoprice, spent a bundle on their active Redmere HDMI cables the last time I redid my home theater...

    They've made a mess of their Type C lineup tho, enough so that I wouldn't bother with any of it until they reorganize and catalog stuff properly. Point is no one is handling this transition flawlessly, not even Apple/Google/MS... The previous Nexus chargers had issues and Apple has had cable recalls too plus some spec fudging, and it's an even bigger deal on 75W+ laptop chargers.
    11-12-2016 04:32 AM
  2. billykac's Avatar
    Impulse - thanks again.

    I've written to Aukey about this. Let's see what they say.

    PD-compliance is a challenge for us consumers to navigate. Both of my wall chargers are from Google, and I've purchased a Black Squid cable for use with the Aukey. All achieve "Rapid Charging", but I am aware that this does not actually indicate PD-compliance. There's more to it than that.

    I'll report back when I hear from Aukey.
    11-12-2016 07:26 AM
  3. SteelGator's Avatar
    I agree with others that are sticking with devices reviewed and recommended by Benson. He has been testing chargers and chords in this space for a while now. He makes sure the live up to the spec and calls them out if they don't.

    Since he works for Google, he is doing this all with an eye on their products. I have purchased and use several that he recommends and I am very happy with theirs quality and function. Some may cost more ATM, you get what you pay for.
    11-12-2016 08:03 AM
  4. anon(9708869)'s Avatar
    What about the Yootech chargers. Are they compliant?
    11-12-2016 08:39 AM
  5. ihbsbA's Avatar
    TL;DR....

    can someone just post links to acceptable car and wall chargers? I plug in the Google cable and see "rapid charging", and sorry... But 1% per minute is not rapid compared to what I was used to with Samsung... Am I missing something?
    11-12-2016 10:09 AM
  6. SteelGator's Avatar
    TL;DR....

    can someone just post links to acceptable car and wall chargers? I plug in the Google cable and see "rapid charging", and sorry... But 1% per minute is not rapid compared to what I was used to with Samsung... Am I missing something?
    This is the sheet I used to select my accessories. Benson tests extensively, with an eye towards compatibility with Pixel tablets & phones and Nexus devices.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...f_TX8/pubhtml#
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    11-12-2016 10:43 AM
  7. ihbsbA's Avatar
    This is the sheet I used to select my accessories. Benson tests extensively, with an eye towards compatibility with Pixel tablets & phones and Nexus devices.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...f_TX8/pubhtml#
    Sigh. Lol
    For those of us who aren't amperage and megaherz geeks, I just need a charger and a car charger that will get me some juice quickly... I appreciate the work that went into this but I seriously just need the easy button here.
    11-12-2016 10:53 AM
  8. SteelGator's Avatar
    Sigh. Lol
    For those of us who aren't amperage and megaherz geeks, I just need a charger and a car charger that will get me some juice quickly... I appreciate the work that went into this but I seriously just need the easy button here.
    Sorry, that sheet looks worse than it is. There is an easy button in there. Look at 2 columns: Suggested a score of 2 or 3 is solid in my view. The type will tell you if it is an AC or Car charger.

    Here is the AC charger I bought, I needed the extra outlets because I just have too many gadgets to charge anymore.
    https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01D8C6ULO

    And the cable
    https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B017V7SI30

    If I were going to buy a car charger, I'd probably get this one
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0172QQNBY...cUvbUpU5559524

    Hope that is more helpful.
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    11-12-2016 11:12 AM
  9. ihbsbA's Avatar
    Sorry, that sheet looks worse than it is. There is an easy button in there. Look at 2 columns: Suggested a score of 2 or 3 is solid in my view. The type will tell you if it is an AC or Car charger.

    Here is the AC charger I bought, I needed the extra outlets because I just have too many gadgets to charge anymore.
    https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01D8C6ULO

    And the cable
    https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B017V7SI30

    If I were going to buy a car charger, I'd probably get this one
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0172QQNBY...cUvbUpU5559536

    Hope that is more helpful.
    Yes yes yes! ❤❤❤❤
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    11-12-2016 11:21 AM
  10. Impulses's Avatar
    Sorry, that sheet looks worse than it is. There is an easy button in there. Look at 2 columns: Suggested a score of 2 or 3 is solid in my view. The type will tell you if it is an AC or Car charger.

    Here is the AC charger I bought, I needed the extra outlets because I just have too many gadgets to charge anymore.
    https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01D8C6ULO

    And the cable
    https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B017V7SI30

    If I were going to buy a car charger, I'd probably get this one
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0172QQNBY...cUvbUpU5559585

    Hope that is more helpful.
    I can second those recommendations, I had already mentioned the car charger before but I guess some of my walls of text get skipped over by the TL;DR'ists.

    That Nekteck car charger is cheap, safe, effective, well built, comes with a straight or coiled cord, and has a second port. Unless you also need to charge a Macbook or something in the car, I wouldn't look any further. Yeah the built in cord is blah, but it's cheap enough it's easy to forgive.

    The Anker 5-port AC charger is nice if you need that many ports, but again, for anyone that wants a small single port charger and/or need a good long (6ft) cable to go along with it: just get Google's 18W charger (same as what comes with your Pixel).

    https://store.google.com/product/usb..._power_adapter

    $35 might seem a ted steep but consider this, the cheapest 3ft cables are still like $10+, probably $15+ for the cheapest 6ft (and they're harder to source)... The cheapest and in-spec 3rd party charger is close to $20... $15 + $20? Not worth the potential hassles.

    The Black Squid cable (~$12?) is nice if you absolutely need/want a fast data cable that's also a good charging cable. There's slightly better built (single piece plugs instead of stamped and folded metal) cables that are also slightly cheaper but they'll be USB 2.0 - same charging abilities but slower for data (like the 6ft cable that comes w/phone).

    Anything else I've seen that's USB 3.1 / TB compliant is usually at or over $20. I bought one by Kanex that's definitely nicer built than that Black Squid and even has smaller plug housings (also smaller than what Belkin is using) but it ran me $23.

    Anker's PowerLine USB 2.0 cables seem fine, nice build, there was a recall around some of the 3.0/3.1 tho.
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    11-12-2016 11:54 AM
  11. benjamminh's Avatar
    I have a Moto Z Force but I agree that the Neckteck car charger is good for the price and will do the job.
    11-12-2016 01:34 PM
  12. SteelGator's Avatar
    I can second those recommendations, I had already mentioned the car charger before but I guess some of my walls of text get skipped over by the TL;DR'ists.

    That Nekteck car charger is cheap, safe, effective, well built, comes with a straight or coiled cord, and has a second port. Unless you also need to charge a Macbook or something in the car, I wouldn't look any further. Yeah the built in cord is blah, but it's cheap enough it's easy to forgive.

    The Anker 5-port AC charger is nice if you need that many ports, but again, for anyone that wants a small single port charger and/or need a good long (6ft) cable to go along with it: just get Google's 18W charger (same as what comes with your Pixel).

    https://store.google.com/product/usb..._power_adapter

    $35 might seem a ted steep but consider this, the cheapest 3ft cables are still like $10+, probably $15+ for the cheapest 6ft (and they're harder to source)... The cheapest and in-spec 3rd party charger is close to $20... $15 + $20? Not worth the potential hassles.

    The Black Squid cable (~$12?) is nice if you absolutely need/want a fast data cable that's also a good charging cable. There's slightly better built (single piece plugs instead of stamped and folded metal) cables that are also slightly cheaper but they'll be USB 2.0 - same charging abilities but slower for data (like the 6ft cable that comes w/phone).

    Anything else I've seen that's USB 3.1 / TB compliant is usually at or over $20. I bought one by Kanex that's definitely nicer built than that Black Squid and even has smaller plug housings (also smaller than what Belkin is using) but it ran me $23.

    Anker's PowerLine USB 2.0 cables seem fine, nice build, there was a recall around some of the 3.0/3.1 tho.
    Yeah, I just read your post. You gave a lot of good detail.
    11-12-2016 03:31 PM
  13. WillyBean12's Avatar
    From the looks of it, Aukey's isn't even remotely PD compliant despite all their marketing about it...

    https://plus.google.com/102612254593...fSGt4?sfc=true

    I think you're better off with Belkin's or Verizon's PD chargers if you absolutely must have one and don't their price (and single port/device arrangement) OR the cheap Nekteck on Amazon...
    I bought this Aukey car charger before I saw Nathan's review. The issue he is stating, if I understand correctly, is the Aukey is stating 9v/3a, but in reality, it is 9v/2.4a. Since the max that my Pixel XL will pull is 9v/2a, this should not be an issue. And so far, I have had no problem with this charger. Futher experience will tell, but for now, I would recommend this charger.
    11-15-2016 01:07 PM
  14. Kangda's Avatar
    I bought this Anker 5 port that was listed as a 3 on the spreadsheet--
    https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Premium...cUvbUpU5565050

    I bought this 6 ft Anker for the USB-C PD port above--
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...cUvbUpU5565050

    Just want to make sure this is a "safe" pairing for my XL. Can anyone confirm this cable pairing is good? I am not tech literate or tech savvy, so sorry for having to ask. Thanks!
    11-15-2016 10:38 PM
  15. Impulses's Avatar
    I bought this Anker 5 port that was listed as a 3 on the spreadsheet--
    https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Premium...cUvbUpU5567436

    I bought this 6 ft Anker for the USB-C PD port above--
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...cUvbUpU5567436

    Just want to make sure this is a "safe" pairing for my XL. Can anyone confirm this cable pairing is good? I am not tech literate or tech savvy, so sorry for having to ask. Thanks!
    The charger is pretty good IIRC, the cable not so much. It's totally safe but you might actually see some voltage drop with it and slightly slower charging <50%...

    I actually sent Nathan K the 3ft one for an evaluation and he was pretty underwhelmed with the thing, it performs worse than Anker's own PowerLine ("same" model minus the +, non braided version) which makes no sense whatsoever.

    It's not a huge issue, like I said it is safe (wired correctly etc), just not optimal and whatever issues he observed with the 3ft are probably magnified at 6ft.

    I gotta say I'm pretty disappointed with how some companies that were usually pretty reliable sources have been handling Type C, I'm looking at you Anker/Aukey/Monoprice (tho MP is the worst offense by far).

    https://plus.google.com/102612254593...GrLar?sfc=true
    11-17-2016 01:22 PM
  16. Impulses's Avatar
    I've probably said this a bunch of times, possibly even in this thread... But the 6ft cable that comes with Google's own 18W spare charger is really nice, totally fine for up to 60W, small plugs, good build, extruded connectors, etc.

    $35 might seem a little steep but given the state of the market it's really not... The Anker cable mentioned above runs $15, the cheapest well vetted 3rd party charger out there runs $18... That's like $2 less in total than Google's charger+cable combo.

    Granted if you need one and not the other it's not quite as appealing... Apple's current 6ft C to C cable goes for like $20 IIRC and it's one of the best out there, good even for 100W laptop charging. It's on sale thru the end of the year over the whole donglegate debacle...

    Had I not bought a spare charger from Google I might've bought that Apple cable, shoot I still might. Just check Nathan's post on G+ to make sure you're getting the new version and not that old that went thru a soft recall, the box is totally different so it's easy to spot.

    I'll link back to it in a min if I end up buying it... I thought the phone came with a 6ft but recently realized it does not. I don't desperately need a 2nd long one but it comes in handy.
    11-17-2016 01:31 PM
  17. Impulses's Avatar
    Repost from another thread regarding 6ft cables, TL;DR: just buy an OEM one! The potential hassles aren't worth the $5 you might save otherwise... Unless you need it for fast data (vs just charging and USB 2.0 speed data), gotta go aftermarket then but expect to pay $30+. Repost:



    It's hardly a unicorn, they're tougher to find but there's at least half a dozen well vetted 6ft Type C cables out there. This list below isn't re-linked enough, it focuses a bit more on 3.0/3.1/TB cables (which tend to be pricier) BUT it has several 6ft USB 2.0 recommendations (along with some faster ones and even an 8ft I'm almost tempted by).

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...9f_TX8/pubhtml

    It's curated by Nathan K who has collaborated with Benson, unlike the other often linked sheet which is attributed to Benson but not actually curated by him, and from what I've seen a little less well maintained... No discredit to the author tho, they just have a slightly different focus.

    In any case, assuming you want to avoid paying $30+ for your 6ft cable and you only need it for USB PD fast charging, the two best options are actually the OEM ones. Apple's is currently $20 thru the end of the year (donglegate sale, no kidding), and is probably the best overall based on actual evaluations:

    USB-C Charge Cable (2 m) - Apple

    I'm about to purchase one myself... If you don't wanna give your money to Apple for whatever reason, or you prefer a more rubbery grey shade of white, Google's cable is $25 but it might not suffice for charging a big MBP (more than enough for phones and even the standard MB or smaller MBP tho):

    https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_usb_type_c

    It's a slightly updated version of the black one that comes with the older Google dual charger but both are fine IIRC, I think I like the strain relief on Google's better than Apple's but that's somewhat subjective and would require long term use to bear out any true significance.

    The only thing I'd say about Google's somewhat overpriced cables is that they make a lot more sense when bought with a charger. At $25 even Apple's cable is cheaper (thru Dec at least), but at $35 with a spare 18W charger Google's is nearly a bargain given the messy messy state of aftermarket cables:

    https://store.google.com/product/usb..._power_adapter

    Or at $40 with the dual charger, tho that one won't max out charge speed on the XL (tops out at 15W with one device, 11W with two).
    11-17-2016 03:32 PM
  18. Kangda's Avatar
    The charger is pretty good IIRC, the cable not so much. It's totally safe but you might actually see some voltage drop with it and slightly slower charging <50%...

    I actually sent Nathan K the 3ft one for an evaluation and he was pretty underwhelmed with the thing, it performs worse than Anker's own PowerLine ("same" model minus the +, non braided version) which makes no sense whatsoever.

    It's not a huge issue, like I said it is safe (wired correctly etc), just not optimal and whatever issues he observed with the 3ft are probably magnified at 6ft.

    I gotta say I'm pretty disappointed with how some companies that were usually pretty reliable sources have been handling Type C, I'm looking at you Anker/Aukey/Monoprice (tho MP is the worst offense by far).

    https://plus.google.com/102612254593...GrLar?sfc=true
    Thanks for posting! I decided to return the Anker 5 port and Anker 6 ft cable. The 6 ft red cable didn't plug in "well" to the phone like the Google charger does.

    I decided to buy an extra Google charger, since that works well and has the 6 ft cable.
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    11-17-2016 05:46 PM
  19. DougB541#CB's Avatar
    One thing I have to say is my Nexus 6p charged significantly faster than my wife's Note 7 when she had it... I'll take Type C's PD over QC any day.
    You sure about that?

    11-28-2016 02:30 PM
  20. benhaube's Avatar
    OK, so for car chargers, I am not clear on the best charger to use with a Pixel.

    Not sure the question got answered about the real-life advantages of the Belkin PD car charger.

    Any updates or clarity on this topic?
    I have been using the Tronsmart car charger. It has a 5V/3A USB Type C port and a 5V/2.4A USB A port. I've had it for a while, and it works great. I've had it since I bought the Nexus 5X, and I've been using it with my Pixel for a month.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01C7...cUvbUpU5621879
    12-26-2016 07:18 PM
  21. kentyman's Avatar
    Are there any portable chargers that support USB-C PD? Anker has one charger with USB-C, but PD isn't mentioned anywhere:

    https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
    01-12-2017 01:50 PM
  22. TheHozOpp1's Avatar
    Are there any portable chargers that support USB-C PD? Anker has one charger with USB-C, but PD isn't mentioned anywhere:

    https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
    I own this battery pack. My phone says "charging rapidly" when plugged into the USB C port. I haven't had the chance to run any kind of analysis to see how fast it charges. But it seems to do it pretty quick
    01-30-2017 02:00 AM
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