1. deesugar's Avatar
    10-04-2016 04:39 PM
  2. Aquila's Avatar
    Still a solid chance that neither version will be; hasn't been determined fully yet. Stock rooted is for sure out of the equation, but custom roms still might be possible if the bootloader is unlockable.
    10-04-2016 04:46 PM
  3. projektorboy's Avatar
    VZW has done this with their variants of Motorola phones. However they did not gimp the Galaxy Nexus in the bootloader aspect.

    Locked bootloaders may be an intentional security measure on pre-release units to ensure that things stay safe. We won't know anything until someone buys a Pixel through VZW and reports back on bootloader unlockability.
    10-04-2016 05:03 PM
  4. jasoraso's Avatar
    This is the biggest issue for me on whether to pickup the phone on Verizon. Hoping to get a definitive answer soon.
    10-04-2016 05:07 PM
  5. Aquila's Avatar
    This is the biggest issue for me on whether to pickup the phone on Verizon. Hoping to get a definitive answer soon.
    The Verizon one is definitely not unlockable. What we don't know is whether or not the Google Store version will be.
    10-04-2016 05:09 PM
  6. MobileVortex's Avatar
    also google offers $99 protection which is a lot cheaper then VZWs
    10-04-2016 05:28 PM
  7. LailaAK's Avatar
    The Verizon one is definitely not unlockable. What we don't know is whether or not the Google Store version will be.
    my money is on the "not" part.
    10-04-2016 05:32 PM
  8. gjrscribe's Avatar
    But only for defect, not lost or stolen, which vzw covers. I had to weigh this option myself.
    10-04-2016 06:03 PM
  9. mario_zzz's Avatar
    Why would I need an unlockable bootloader?
    10-04-2016 06:11 PM
  10. Feldon's Avatar
    Why would I need an unlockable bootloader?
    To remove the mountains of shovelware and bloatware that Verizon (and AT&T) load onto the phone that makes the phone run like a slug.

    Google Pixel. Because we needed another $750 carrier-controlled phone with 8 months lag on software updates. Awesome!!
    10-04-2016 06:20 PM
  11. Aquila's Avatar
    Does the Verizon version have any Verizon software on it?
    10-04-2016 07:36 PM
  12. Ry's Avatar
    That's fine. It's not a "developer's phone", right?
    10-04-2016 07:37 PM
  13. Aquila's Avatar
    That's fine. It's not a "developer's phone", right?
    The Verizon one definitely is not a developer phone, but I don't think either version is.
    10-04-2016 07:40 PM
  14. ClusterPuck's Avatar
    Yes, I was under the impression this phone would not have anything VZW on it. I am trying to determine if I should pre-order from either google or vzw and would appreciate any comments on what if any differences there will be.
    10-04-2016 07:43 PM
  15. ClusterPuck's Avatar
    okay, i found answers to these questions here --- looks like google is the way to go.

    Verizon's Google Pixel model may not get fast Android updates - Business Insider
    10-04-2016 08:31 PM
  16. Aquila's Avatar
    Vzw apparently no bloatware visible.
    10-04-2016 09:27 PM
  17. sulla1965's Avatar
    As someone pointed out. The Verizon galaxy nexus wasn't locked. Hopefully the same is true here.
    10-04-2016 10:54 PM
  18. Aquila's Avatar
    As someone pointed out. The Verizon galaxy nexus wasn't locked. Hopefully the same is true here.
    Except that it isn't. This is being widely reported.
    10-04-2016 10:59 PM
  19. LailaAK's Avatar
    The Verizon one is definitely not unlockable. What we don't know is whether or not the Google Store version will be.
    what will people say if the Google Store version of Pixel
    phone is also not unlockable?

    Will androids surround Google headquarters with pitch
    forks and torches?
    benjamminh and Aquila like this.
    10-08-2016 02:01 PM
  20. Aquila's Avatar
    what will people say if the Google Store version of Pixel
    phone is also not unlockable?

    Will androids surround Google headquarters with pitch
    forks and torches?
    Still haven't gotten confirmation it can be.
    10-08-2016 02:10 PM
  21. LailaAK's Avatar
    Still haven't gotten confirmation it can be.
    that's what worries me... it's almost as if Google is deliberately
    trying to avoid talking abut this important detail?
    benjamminh likes this.
    10-08-2016 02:38 PM
  22. prking0905's Avatar
    right, i wouldnt bet on it.
    10-18-2016 11:16 AM
  23. diesteldorf's Avatar
    The bootloader can be unlocked for the Google versions. I wish I had the link, but in one of the early unboxing videos, the gentleman turned on his phone, and you could clearly see the message warning the user that the bootloader was unlocked.
    10-18-2016 12:47 PM
  24. Almeuit's Avatar
    This doesn't matter to me too much. I am not getting the Verizon one but even if I was it wouldn't affect it.
    10-18-2016 12:47 PM

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