10-18-2016 11:14 AM
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  1. Clocks's Avatar
    A Verizon spokesperson has reached out to Ars with the following corrections about its version of the Pixel:

    "First and foremost, all operating system and security updates to the Pixel devices will happen in partnership with Google. In other words, when Google releases an update, Verizon phones will receive the same update at the same time (much like iOS updates). Verizon will not stand in the way of any major updates and users will get all updates at the same time as Google.

    Also, the Verizon version of the Google Pixel is carrier unlocked, so you can use it where ever you like. Finally, we have three apps pre-installed on the phone Go90, My Verizon (which is your account management tool) and Verizon Messages (your messaging app). As you noted, all three can easily be uninstalled by the user."

    Google told 9to5Google that "system updates will be managed by Verizon for Verizon models," which in the past this has meant slower, delayed updates. Verizon seems to be changing their update strategy for the Pixels, and now promises to "not stand in the way of any major updates." We've reached out to Google for comment and clarification.

    Update: Verizon says its Pixels will get updates at the same time as Google’s | Ars Technica
    Should be a relief to the folks who had to/wanted to order from Verizon.
    10-12-2016 11:42 AM
  2. Aquila's Avatar
    Cool. Now firm answer on WiFi calling for Google bought version with Verizon SIM
    gabbott likes this.
    10-12-2016 11:46 AM
  3. gabbott's Avatar
    Hopefully it's a good sign. Still a wait and see what actually happens. They could just be referring to security updates.
    10-12-2016 12:03 PM
  4. SteelGator's Avatar
    Well, I am one that had to buy from Verizon because of my employers contract. This is encouraging news.
    Aquila likes this.
    10-12-2016 12:12 PM
  5. tdizzel's Avatar
    Should be a relief to the folks who had to/wanted to order from Verizon.
    But those who want to complain will still complain. Even if this proves to be 100%accurate , they'll still complain about the updates coming from Verizon.
    Aquila and raqball like this.
    10-12-2016 12:15 PM
  6. jlangner's Avatar
    Hmm tempting. So if I buy from Bestbuy I can get next week (Verizon version) or keep my order at Google and get Nov 25..Since I won't root, etc, anything else I am missing? Will be using on T-Mobile.
    10-12-2016 12:20 PM
  7. Aquila's Avatar
    Hmm tempting. So if I buy from Bestbuy I can get next week (Verizon version) or keep my order at Google and get Nov 25..Since I won't root, etc, anything else I am missing? Will be using on T-Mobile.
    Just that you have to activate it on a Verizon account. If doing payments it's a new line or upgrade, if paying outright still requires activation then you can move it out.
    10-12-2016 12:24 PM
  8. Poseign's Avatar
    Hopefully it's a good sign. Still a wait and see what actually happens. They could just be referring to security updates.
    The article makes it pretty clear that they are talking about both security updates and full system updates. If Verizon stands by this, this is HUGE and only the most hardcore Google purists should have issues buying a Verizon model.

    Id consider myself a pretty hardcore purist, but even I've got no worries pre-ordering a verizon model if this is true.
    Rocky5000100 likes this.
    10-12-2016 12:32 PM
  9. gabbott's Avatar
    The article makes it pretty clear that they are talking about both security updates and full system updates. If Verizon stands by this, this is HUGE and only the most hardcore Google purists should have issues buying a Verizon model.

    Id consider myself a pretty hardcore purist, but even I've got no worries pre-ordering a verizon model if this is true.
    I agree the article seems to make it clear. Let's see what happens when put into practice

    It will be a great thing for Android if Google accomplishes this with carriers.
    SteelGator likes this.
    10-12-2016 12:34 PM
  10. raqball's Avatar
    Well I for one do not trust Verizon.... I hope VZW customers get the updates at the same time but....... This would not be the 1st time Verizon lied through their teeth about something..
    Citizen Coyote likes this.
    10-12-2016 12:41 PM
  11. Poseign's Avatar
    I agree the article seems to make it clear. Let's see what happens when put into practice

    It will be a great thing for Android if Google accomplishes this with carriers.
    And lets be honest, if the pixel line takes off this will also go a long way to fixing the fragmentation issue, especially if we see a good number of sales for the Pixel and see future pixels released through all carriers with the same update policy. May push other OEMs to get their sh-stuff together with updates and bloat.
    gabbott and Aquila like this.
    10-12-2016 12:41 PM
  12. Poseign's Avatar
    Well I for one do not trust Verizon.... I hope VZW customers get the updates at the same time but....... This would not be the 1st time Verizon lied through their teeth about something..
    Im inclined to agree. Time will tell.
    10-12-2016 12:41 PM
  13. ClusterPuck's Avatar
    Now I am tempted to cancel my google order with Delivery on 11/15 and just go to VZW to get one next week.....ohhhhh noooo what to do believe and get it early or get sucker punched if not true!!
    10-12-2016 12:47 PM
  14. ClusterPuck's Avatar
    And lets be honest, if the pixel line takes off this will also go a long way to fixing the fragmentation issue, especially if we see a good number of sales for the Pixel and see future pixels released through all carriers with the same update policy. May push other OEMs to get their sh-stuff together with updates and bloat.
    No doubt there has been negative articles plastered across the web with the headline DON'T BUY YOUR PIXEL FROM VERIZON. And it is probably no coincidence that only the Google Store has had stock issues. So, perhaps public pressure and the consumer purchase power has won on this case.

    I also have a moto x, stuck on lolipop and never was given the update for HD Voice/VoLTE. So screw me once, shame on you. Screw me twice.....
    10-12-2016 12:53 PM
  15. Citizen Coyote's Avatar
    Now I am tempted to cancel my google order with Delivery on 11/15 and just go to VZW to get one next week.....ohhhhh noooo what to do believe and get it early or get sucker punched if not true!!
    Get it one week later, or get it early with potentially gimped updates. Honestly, I'd go with the former. You'll kick yourself down the road if Verizon goes back on their word, which would certainly not be the first time. Look at it this way. Verizon's history has been to delay updates, even for Google-branded devices. Those rare updates that arrived in a timely manner (like the Verizon-branded 2014 Moto X Lollipop update) stand out as anomalies. They certainly didn't change their ways then, why would you believe they'll adhere to this schedule now?

    Until they have a proven track record of timely updates, I'd take this with a huge grain of salt. If they hold true to their promise, then maybe the 2017 Verizon Pixel phone will be a good buy.
    ClusterPuck likes this.
    10-12-2016 01:03 PM
  16. Ry's Avatar
    We'll see.
    10-12-2016 01:07 PM
  17. gabbott's Avatar
    10-12-2016 01:28 PM
  18. dpham00's Avatar
    That's great news!
    10-12-2016 01:34 PM
  19. Stang68's Avatar
    No doubt there has been negative articles plastered across the web with the headline DON'T BUY YOUR PIXEL FROM VERIZON. And it is probably no coincidence that only the Google Store has had stock issues. So, perhaps public pressure and the consumer purchase power has won on this case.

    I totally agree. I think all the Android sites with that as their headline really woke Verizon up. Happy to see this.
    10-12-2016 01:39 PM
  20. anon(9227267)'s Avatar
    Until they have a proven track record of timely updates, I'd take this with a huge grain of salt. If they hold true to their promise, then maybe the 2017 Verizon Pixel phone will be a good buy.
    Could not agree more.
    ggendel likes this.
    10-12-2016 01:40 PM
  21. jlangner's Avatar
    Just that you have to activate it on a Verizon account. If doing payments it's a new line or upgrade, if paying outright still requires activation then you can move it out.
    So if I pay full price at Bestbuy.com, get it shipped to me, I can't just put my t-mobile sim in and boot up and avoid Verizon altogether?
    10-12-2016 01:47 PM
  22. socarwolverine's Avatar
    It was already confirmed shortly after Google's announcement that security updates will come direct from Google. This is confirming what was unknown at the time, that major system updates won't be delayed.
    10-12-2016 01:57 PM
  23. ggendel's Avatar
    Could not agree more.
    I'd take it with a ton of salt. Verizon has broken promises so many times in the 11+ years I've been with them that I lost count. If you make an FCC complaint, they will tell you one thing in a phone call but send a completely different story to the FCC. I assume they do the same thing with the press to make good PR. I've asked them to email me what they said so I can have it documented but they always refuse.
    10-12-2016 02:02 PM
  24. Ry's Avatar
    This is the first time they've made this kind of commitment, no?
    10-12-2016 02:05 PM
  25. anon(9227267)'s Avatar
    I'd take it with a ton of salt. Verizon has broken promises so many times in the 11+ years I've been with them that I lost count. If you make an FCC complaint, they will tell you one thing in a phone call but send a completely different story to the FCC. I assume they do the same thing with the press to make good PR. I've asked them to email me what they said so I can have it documented but they always refuse.
    I have had VZW for over 10 years too - I never worried about updates/bloatware because I didn't know there was another option. Now that I am a wee bit smarter, I take these things into consideration. It is going to take a while to see how true VZW is to their word.
    10-12-2016 02:14 PM
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