1. SugarMouth's Avatar
    Does anyone know the pixel arrangement on the display? If its PenTile I'll likely return or cancel.
    radioactive70 likes this.
    10-15-2016 06:37 PM
  2. Lobwedgephil's Avatar
    5.5 inches
    QHD AMOLED at 534ppi
    2.5D Corning® Gorilla® Glass 4

    100% NTSC
    100000:1, super contrast ratio
    True black level
    Full 24-bits depth or 16.77 million colors
    Less than 40% brightness decrease at 30 degree viewing angle
    10-15-2016 07:21 PM
  3. GTvert90's Avatar
    Does anyone know the pixel arrangement on the display? If its PenTile I'll likely return or cancel.
    I don't want to be that guy but does PenTile matter when you are talking about a QHD display?
    gabbott and dsignori like this.
    10-15-2016 08:02 PM
  4. Aquila's Avatar
    It shouldn't matter on either because of the size and resolutions involved. 5.0 1080p would be fine and 5.5 1440p would also be fine.

    The only one that I recall recently being an issue was the 5.5 1080p.

    But not sure if it is or not.
    10-15-2016 08:26 PM
  5. tdizzel's Avatar
    Does anyone know the pixel arrangement on the display? If its PenTile I'll likely return or cancel.
    2012 called. It wants its pentile hate back.
    Seriously, even if it is pentile, there is about one one thousandth of a percent chance that you'll notice. If no one can give you a definitive answer then you'll never be able to tell.
    gabbott likes this.
    10-15-2016 08:55 PM
  6. SugarMouth's Avatar
    I don't want to be that guy but does PenTile matter when you are talking about a QHD display?
    I'm hoping not. The OnePlus 3 was awful and had to go back but that was at 401 ppi
    10-15-2016 09:15 PM
  7. SugarMouth's Avatar
    2012 called. It wants its pentile hate back.
    Seriously, even if it is pentile, there is about one one thousandth of a percent chance that you'll notice. If no one can give you a definitive answer then you'll never be able to tell.
    At 401 ppi I notice first boot. Text clarity is important to me.
    10-15-2016 09:16 PM
  8. tdizzel's Avatar
    At 401 ppi I notice first boot. Text clarity is important to me.
    I'm kinda interested in what phone you use. If it's an android, it's likely you're using a phone with a pentile display
    10-15-2016 10:57 PM
  9. EnemiesInTheEnd's Avatar
    I'm hoping not. The OnePlus 3 was awful and had to go back but that was at 401 ppi
    The Pixel has double the resolution of the OnePlus 3.
    10-15-2016 11:12 PM
  10. SugarMouth's Avatar
    I'm kinda interested in what phone you use. If it's an android, it's likely you're using a phone with a pentile display
    Note 5 and iPhone 6s. No PenTile there.
    10-16-2016 04:01 PM
  11. SugarMouth's Avatar
    The Pixel has double the resolution of the OnePlus 3.
    They are the same resolution with the Pixel having a higher PPI.
    10-16-2016 04:03 PM
  12. Aquila's Avatar
    They are the same resolution with the Pixel having a higher PPI.
    I think they may have been referring to the Pixel XL with 1440p at 534 PPI. The Pixel is 1080p with 440 PPI. The OP3 is 1080p with 400 PPI.

    1440p is 1.777777777... lots of sevens more pixels than 1080p.
    10-16-2016 04:32 PM
  13. tdizzel's Avatar
    Note 5 and iPhone 6s. No PenTile there.
    The Note 5 uses a diamond pixel arrangement which technically is pentile.
    10-16-2016 08:16 PM
  14. EnemiesInTheEnd's Avatar
    They are the same resolution with the Pixel having a higher PPI.
    I forgot the Pixel and Pixel XL have different display resolutions
    10-17-2016 02:28 AM
  15. SugarMouth's Avatar
    The Note 5 uses a diamond pixel arrangement which technically is pentile.
    Technically. It's also 518 ppi to Google Pixels 441. A few more days and I will see if it will work.
    10-17-2016 02:34 PM
  16. tdizzel's Avatar
    Technically. It's also 518 ppi to Google Pixels 441. A few more days and I will see if it will work.
    But it's still pentile. My whole point is that you shouldn't judge a display just because its "pentile" because at this point that is probably the least important factor as to if it's a good display.
    gabbott, SteelGator and dsignori like this.
    10-17-2016 02:44 PM
  17. SugarMouth's Avatar
    But it's still pentile. My whole point is that you shouldn't judge a display just because its "pentile" because at this point that is probably the least important factor as to if it's a good display.
    The most important feature of a display to me is the clarity of text. The only displays that seem to have fuzzy edged text is pentile. Hopefully the ppi is dense enough to where the pixel arrangement which typically causes the fuzzy text is too small to notice.
    10-18-2016 08:00 AM
  18. tdizzel's Avatar
    The most important feature of a display to me is the clarity of text. The only displays that seem to have fuzzy edged text is pentile.
    And then there's the Note 5 which you didn't even seem to know is pentile. Like I said, at this point, pentile is a nonfactor in display quality. The pentile hate really needs to be left back in 2012. The pentile problems have been overcome. Its up to manufacturers if they want to prioritize clarity, but it has zero to do with pentile. If you want to question the clarity of a display, I agree 1000% that you should since that's what matters to you. Just place the blame where it belongs, and its not because of pentile.
    10-18-2016 11:54 AM
  19. SugarMouth's Avatar
    And then there's the Note 5 which you didn't even seem to know is pentile. Like I said, at this point, pentile is a nonfactor in display quality. The pentile hate really needs to be left back in 2012. The pentile problems have been overcome. Its up to manufacturers if they want to prioritize clarity, but it has zero to do with pentile. If you want to question the clarity of a display, I agree 1000% that you should since that's what matters to you. Just place the blame where it belongs, and its not because of pentile.
    I was fully aware of the diamond pentile display of the Note 5. I'm also aware the Note has a pixel density of 518. The Google Pixel is 441. This does make a difference!

    I just returned a OP3 because of the poor text on the display, there still is a pentile problem to my eyes at 401ppi. This is why I have a concern with the Google Pixel at 441, its better but very close. Not as good as the 518 on the Note 5.

    So in other words I am satisfied with diamond pentile at 518ppi. I am not satisfied with pentile at 401. My iPhone 6s is fantastic at 326ppi non-pentile. Pentile is still an issue for those who favor sharp text.
    10-18-2016 06:25 PM
  20. Richard Servello's Avatar
    They are the same resolution with the Pixel having a higher PPI.
    The pixel xl has double the resolution. The pixel has the same res on a smaller screen as the op3, which gives it a denser PPI.
    10-18-2016 06:27 PM
  21. belodion's Avatar
    My Lumia 930 has pentile, but at 440ppi I can't see pixels. On the 1020, which is pentile and 334ppi, I can. Figures are from memory but I think are right.
    10-18-2016 06:49 PM
  22. Adamd1169's Avatar
    I was fully aware of the diamond pentile display of the Note 5. I'm also aware the Note has a pixel density of 518. The Google Pixel is 441. This does make a difference!

    I just returned a OP3 because of the poor text on the display, there still is a pentile problem to my eyes at 401ppi. This is why I have a concern with the Google Pixel at 441, its better but very close. Not as good as the 518 on the Note 5.

    So in other words I am satisfied with diamond pentile at 518ppi. I am not satisfied with pentile at 401. My iPhone 6s is fantastic at 326ppi non-pentile. Pentile is still an issue for those who favor sharp text.
    What's it like to have the best eyes in the world?
    10-18-2016 06:55 PM
  23. tdizzel's Avatar
    Note 5 and iPhone 6s. No PenTile there.
    I was fully aware of the diamond pentile display of the Note 5.
    Umm...OK
    10-18-2016 07:45 PM
  24. SugarMouth's Avatar
    Umm...OK
    What I meant on the first quote was it was a diamond arrangement and not a pentile in terms of what a pentile originally meant. I do not put pentile and diamond pixel in the same category. The OnePlus 3 which is the device initially used as not acceptable was pentile and had no diamond arrangement.

    So to me this is how I see it:

    iPhone 6s -No PenTile
    Note 5 -Diamond Pixel (Even though technically its PenTile its a different class)
    OnePlus 3 - PenTile

    If Google Pixel is standard PenTile I am hoping the higher PPI will offset it.
    10-18-2016 09:17 PM
  25. tdizzel's Avatar
    What I meant on the first quote was it was a diamond arrangement and not a pentile in terms of what a pentile originally meant. I do not put pentile and diamond pixel in the same category. The OnePlus 3 which is the device initially used as not acceptable was pentile and had no diamond arrangement.

    So to me this is how I see it:

    iPhone 6s -No PenTile
    Note 5 -Diamond Pixel (Even though technically its PenTile its a different class)
    OnePlus 3 - PenTile

    If Google Pixel is standard PenTile I am hoping the higher PPI will offset it.
    Lol, no. "no pentile there" does not mean "not a pentile in terms of what a pentile originally meant" especially when it was in response to me saying if you had an Android you probably had a Pentile display. you just didn't know the Note 5 used a pentile display. While I'm sure your eyes can certainly tell if text is clear to you out not, they certainly cannot tell if a display made in the last few years is pentile. That's why you had to ask about the pixel, so you'd know if you needed to have a bias going in.
    But it's cool. Whatever matters to you matters to you.
    10-23-2016 11:03 AM

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