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  1. dobo84's Avatar
    Has anyone had any issues with a halo effect when shooting in sunlight? there is a slight halo but others are reporting worse
    10-22-2016 11:12 PM
  2. SteelGator's Avatar
    That picture doesn't look bad to me, that said, halos are common in HDR. You may try turning it off for a shot like that and see how it does.
    10-22-2016 11:15 PM
  3. dobo84's Avatar
    That picture doesn't look bad to me, that said, halos are common in HDR. You may try turning it off for a shot like that and see how it does.
    Was thinking that, I'm going to test tomorrow and see how it looks
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    10-22-2016 11:30 PM
  4. maizhaoiv's Avatar
    I found there's kinda same issue from Danny Widget's Twitter: https://twitter.com/superscientific/...68924297297920.
    10-23-2016 06:58 AM
  5. SteelGator's Avatar
    I found there's kinda same issue from Danny Widget's Twitter: https://twitter.com/superscientific/...68924297297920.

    Looking back at the original photo, now I see what you are talking about. Is wonder if that is more lens flare than HDR. When I think of HDR halo, it is a line around buildings where the meet the sky, and you see a bit of it around the house in that background. I would call the 'halo' I see in the OP pic lens flare. The same in Danny's pic, though I wonder if it is worse because of processing artifact due to HDR?

    These links show good examples of both
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lens_flare
    http://www.trentsizemore.com/2013/02...ffect-bad-hdr/

    Based on what I see, the camera lens may be susceptible to lens flare, and shooting directly in to light (which I don't favor anyway) will require pics from a few angles to get a clean shot.

    Any pro photographers out there to comment? I only know enough to be dangerous.
    10-23-2016 07:56 AM
  6. dobo84's Avatar
    tried this one no HDR to see and it's a bit more visible
    10-23-2016 10:41 AM
  7. Richard Servello's Avatar
    Has anyone had any issues with a halo effect when shooting in sunlight? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...888f0e7f47.jpg there is a slight halo but others are reporting worse
    That's called a lens flare or lens reflection. It happens when you shoot directly at bright objects. Light reflects inside the lenses and causes an artifact. All cameras will do this.
    10-23-2016 10:42 AM
  8. dobo84's Avatar
    I know what it is but this drastic, here is one shot with the iPad Pro
    10-23-2016 10:43 AM
  9. dobo84's Avatar
    Flare is there but the Halo is not, something has to be reflecting on the pixels lens. It's not a deal breaker but it's there
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    10-23-2016 10:44 AM
  10. Go0gle's Avatar
    That's called lens flare, and even happens on $3000 camera lenses. When you point the lens directly into the sun like that, it's possible for the intense light to reflect inside the lens elements and you get the flare. The flare can appear in a variety of different ways depending on the lens construction. There is no lens on the planet that can eliminate this entirely. Try keeping the bright sun out of the frame and you should see it go away. Also, the difference between brightness of the *sun*(!) and that dark house is far, far, far, beyond what any HDR mode can deal with. Don't worry, your camera is working just fine.
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    10-23-2016 10:45 AM
  11. SteelGator's Avatar
    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...b620cc4c95.jpg tried this one no HDR to see and it's a bit more visible
    As others mention, that is flare, not a halo.
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    10-23-2016 12:45 PM
  12. dobo84's Avatar
    nah I'm not the only one and no never had a issue with other devices this extreme. My DSLR can mitigate the issues with a shield but as described in this video is what I went through
    10-23-2016 05:36 PM
  13. Way out west's Avatar
    Is this happening with all models or mainly silver? I wonder if the reflection from the glass is affecting these photos
    10-23-2016 06:13 PM
  14. dobo84's Avatar
    Possibly white reflects glare a bit more
    10-23-2016 06:42 PM
  15. Way out west's Avatar
    Wonder if placing a matte skin over the glass will help the situation?
    10-23-2016 07:06 PM
  16. dobo84's Avatar
    Ordered a Google art case since the cut outs are smaller
    10-23-2016 07:09 PM
  17. SteelGator's Avatar
    Well you cannot argue, the lens is susceptible to flare. I pointed my at a light and get the flare as well. I fired up my N7 (bad choice of words, sorry), and saw some flare, but not nearly as bad as the Pixel. I am going to need to step up my use of the camera on the Pixel to make sure it is not going to be a problem for me.
    10-23-2016 07:13 PM
  18. dobo84's Avatar
    Possible they may silently fix the issue in later units. I'll see what a different case does.
    10-23-2016 07:25 PM
  19. akin_t's Avatar
    Possible they may silently fix the issue in later units. I'll see what a different case does.
    You can't just fix lens flare without changing the entire assembly.

    In very layman's terms, lens flare happens when stray light, i.e. light outside the lens field of view, makes its way to the sensor. In photography, you use lens hoods to block the stray light and thus eliminate the flare.

    If it's any consolation, lens flare is really only a problem when shooting into bright sources of light.
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    10-23-2016 07:47 PM
  20. Richard Servello's Avatar
    Possible they may silently fix the issue in later units. I'll see what a different case does.
    Fix what? You are shooting INTO the sun! They can't change physics.
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    10-23-2016 07:49 PM
  21. dobo84's Avatar
    Um it happens in any sunlight not just direct.
    10-23-2016 07:50 PM
  22. dobo84's Avatar
    Just can't help but think this is why we see camera bumps, just a thought
    10-23-2016 07:57 PM
  23. anon(596177)'s Avatar
    Is this happening with all models or mainly silver? I wonder if the reflection from the glass is affecting these photos
    It's not just the silver. I'm seeing the same lens flare on my phone, black smaller pixel.
    10-24-2016 02:17 AM
  24. anon(596177)'s Avatar
    So here are some example shots, first from the pixel, then from the 6p. Mind you I'm not a professional photographer, I just picked up the phone pointed and took the photo. Obviously with a little bit of actually trying to make a lens flare happen.



    This is what we are seeing, both in that video and in the OP's initial post. Then below we see what the 6p does in the same situation:




    This lens flare occurs on the 6p as well. In the second photo you can see the lens flare underneath my dog's water bowl. The flare on the 6p is nowhere near as noticeable as on the pixel, but it is definitely there.

    Bottom line, this is something that all cameras are susceptible to, sure. But it seems the pixel is more susceptible to being photo-killing than normal.

    Also of note, I tried to recreate the same purple Arc that the pixel sees on the second photo on the 6p and could not do so.
    10-24-2016 02:28 AM
  25. CHILLYWILL_95831's Avatar
    This is definitely not normal lens flare. I have the black Pixel XL and it's easy to reproduce the flare in a normal lighting condition. I have my pixel inside of a Spigen rugged case And i still get the halo. I've actually called Google and they've reported that this is a reported issue with the Pixel, however, not all of them seem to be affected. I just ordered a replacement through Fi. But, I don't believe the issue will be resolved. I'm thinking they'll just send me another brand new unit with the same problem. The good thing is, it will be here within a day.

    As for the halo, let's hope that it can be resolved with some algorithms or something, LOL!
    EMGSM likes this.
    10-24-2016 04:17 AM
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