1. xJake4's Avatar
    Hello, I want to purchase the Pixel XL, but the black version is still out of stock, so I'm left resorted to the Verizon model from Best Buy in order to take advantage of that 325$ promo. The question I have is, are all Verizon Pixel's come unlocked out of the box? Does Google send out the updates? Whats the catch if I use the Verizon model if it does work on Tmobile?

    Thanks
    11-22-2016 06:41 PM
  2. Almeuit's Avatar
    It is the same phone as from Google. It will work on T-Mobile with all the features (WiFi calling, Band 12, VoLTE, etc.) just like the Google Store one would .
    11-22-2016 06:53 PM
  3. xJake4's Avatar
    So it doesn't have Verizon bloatware or anything?
    11-22-2016 06:58 PM
  4. Almeuit's Avatar
    So it doesn't have Verizon bloatware or anything?
    It may have 3 apps from them but they can be fully uninstalled.
    11-22-2016 07:27 PM
  5. DJM626's Avatar
    Confirmed with the 3 apps. A few clicks and poof they're gone
    11-22-2016 08:15 PM
  6. anon(8938849)'s Avatar
    The pixel bought from verizon will not update without a verizon sim in. I'm returning mine tomorrow because of this. I made a quick video to show...
    11-22-2016 10:59 PM
  7. anon(8938849)'s Avatar


    The icon was something else...but yeah you can see an update already found even will actually disappear if you remove the verizon sim.
    11-22-2016 11:00 PM
  8. subguy812's Avatar
    I have a VZW Pixel XL and have never used a Verizon sim(except initial bootup) and I use T-Mobile. I received the update without problem using a T-Mobile sim.
    11-22-2016 11:16 PM
  9. anon(8938849)'s Avatar
    Hmm. Mine clearly won't. I wonder did you complete any updates, setup or activation with the verizon sim in before you took it out? I removed the verizon sim before I even powered my phone on, so it never set up with the verizon sim at all, never downloaded the 3 verizon apps, etc.
    11-22-2016 11:25 PM
  10. Gdraft#WN's Avatar
    I have 2 Pixel XL's from Best Buy, running on T-mo.

    No problems whatsoever.

    I did have to swing by the t-mo store and get new sims as the one from our old phones didn't fit.

    Put them in, powered it up, did the update moved my data and (as emirl says) BAM. . Works without a hitch.

    We have gotten the November update no problem, running on WiFi calling when at home and switching to cell when we leave. Even being on a call it switches without dropping!

    Overall a better experience than the last phones I bought from T-mo
    11-23-2016 10:13 AM
  11. anon(8938849)'s Avatar
    the verizon pixel won't update without a VERIZON sim, unless mine is defective. Returned it earlier today because no matter what I tried it would not update without the verizon sim.
    11-23-2016 05:56 PM
  12. c0rbindallas's Avatar
    Im going through the same thing with mine. Im going to have to side load the OTA each time it seems. I've got a Verizon unit purchased from BB and using it on ATT.
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    11-23-2016 06:48 PM
  13. anon(8938849)'s Avatar
    Im going through the same thing with mine. Im going to have to side load the OTA each time it seems. I've got a Verizon unit purchased from BB and using it on ATT.
    I got mine from Best Buy as well. I don't understand how some people are getting the updates without a verizon sim in.

    By the way, how do you plan on sideloading? Can you do that without unlocking the bootloader?
    11-23-2016 07:51 PM
  14. xJake4's Avatar
    I just purchased the device today, how do i know if i have the november update?
    11-23-2016 09:18 PM
  15. sulla1965's Avatar
    I just purchased the device today, how do i know if i have the november update?
    Settings/about phone/-then look under Android security patch level. Nov 5,2016 is the latest update.
    11-24-2016 01:30 PM
  16. xJake4's Avatar
    Weird, i didn't get it yet. I tooked out sim, maybe thats the problem?
    11-24-2016 01:59 PM
  17. anon(8938849)'s Avatar
    Weird, i didn't get it yet. I tooked out sim, maybe thats the problem?
    you won't get an update without a verizon sim installed.
    11-24-2016 07:35 PM
  18. xJake4's Avatar
    you won't get an update without a verizon sim installed.
    I just received a notification this morning that the november patch was available, with my t-mobile sim. Just wanted to let you know
    11-27-2016 04:36 PM
  19. Connert's Avatar
    the verizon pixel won't update without a VERIZON sim, unless mine is defective. Returned it earlier today because no matter what I tried it would not update without the verizon sim.
    Verizon had an out of the box update to improve wifi connectivity. I had the same update and it would fail each time I tried to install it. I called Google and was passed over to Verizon support. They couldn't figure out why it wouldn't install. Ended up not being an issue, I moved the phone over to Sprint and received the latest update the day it came out without issue. The phone has been working perfectly on Sprint now for over a month.

    I think the update you are seeing with the Verizon sim card is the Verizon only update.
    11-27-2016 07:56 PM
  20. c0rbindallas's Avatar
    I am beginning to think that you are correct in that it's a Verizon only update. Only time will tell as google release OS updates across the board. I still worry if Verizon is actually handling OS updates then how will it make it the the Verizon device if no Verizon sim is installed.
    11-28-2016 06:37 PM
  21. anon(8938849)'s Avatar
    Verizon had an out of the box update to improve wifi connectivity. I had the same update and it would fail each time I tried to install it. I called Google and was passed over to Verizon support. They couldn't figure out why it wouldn't install. Ended up not being an issue, I moved the phone over to Sprint and received the latest update the day it came out without issue. The phone has been working perfectly on Sprint now for over a month.

    I think the update you are seeing with the Verizon sim card is the Verizon only update.
    It was actually the Nov. Security update, and it only failed to update without the Verizon sim in. I tried it a number of different ways without, but ultimately the phone refused to update until until I kept the Verizon sim in. Every time the Verizon sim was installed the update IMMEDIATELY showed up, like within a few seconds. Take out Verizon sim, update disappears. It updated just fine when I finally let it go through with the Verizon sim in. So it was not the early wifi update, my phone was new enough it already had it. It was the Nov. security patch and it would not update without the Verizon sim. Even if it's just going to be delayed that's messed up. Phone is too expensive already and first updates are one of the few selling points. That's compromised.
    11-29-2016 08:56 AM

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