1. recDNA's Avatar
    does pixel have built in Google vpn like nexus?
    01-03-2017 12:32 PM
  2. Almeuit's Avatar
    does pixel have built in Google vpn like nexus?
    Yes. It is called WiFi Assistant.

    https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6327199?hl=en
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    01-03-2017 12:40 PM
  3. recDNA's Avatar
    Now that's a great reason to buy a Pixel I didn't know about. I don't know if I trust the VPN's in the playstore. I know I trust Google.
    01-03-2017 01:56 PM
  4. Almeuit's Avatar
    Now that's a great reason to buy a Pixel I didn't know about. I don't know if I trust the VPN's in the playstore. I know I trust Google.
    There are some good VPN services out there. A few friends of mine use the https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/ VPN. I will see if anyone else on the team uses on they can recommend.
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    01-03-2017 01:58 PM
  5. recDNA's Avatar
    There are some good VPN services out there. A few friends of mine use the https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/ VPN. I will see if anyone else on the team uses on they can recommend.
    Thanks! I would think these would be more. popular since so many of us use open wifi networks when lte not available.
    01-03-2017 03:33 PM
  6. chestvrg's Avatar
    There are some good VPN services out there. A few friends of mine use the https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/ VPN. I will see if anyone else on the team uses on they can recommend.
    I have been paying attention to this thread, what are some of the examples I can use this VPN, to search for example internet habits (e.g. Porn ), or to strictly do banking? Do you know if I do banking and check or read personal email and at the same time is recommendable or the VPN should only be used for accessing banking info?
    01-03-2017 04:43 PM
  7. Almeuit's Avatar
    I have been paying attention to this thread, what are some of the examples I can use this VPN, to search for example internet habits (e.g. Porn ), or to strictly do banking? Do you know if I do banking and check or read personal email and at the same time is recommendable or the VPN should only be used for accessing banking info?
    You can use it for all your browsing if you want. VPN just encrypts your traffic. Open WiFi networks are very insecure and it would be very easy for someone to perform a "Man in the middle" attack on your data. If you're just browsing some news and don't care then it isn't a huge deal but doing any type of information that is important would be discouraged.
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    01-03-2017 04:46 PM
  8. chestvrg's Avatar
    Yes thanks. I am reviewing a YouTube video about private internet access ==> ahttps://youtu.be/BLDQzKZZSaI

    nd I like what I see as far as staying private while internet browsing specially on wi fi networks.
    01-03-2017 05:31 PM
  9. wckesq's Avatar
    When not on WiFi assistant and using public WiFi I use this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...=com.opera.vpn. Never crashed on me and seems to work fine for free.
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    01-03-2017 07:18 PM
  10. chestvrg's Avatar
    Based on your output I was able to purchase PIA VPN for 1 year and downloaded the app on my PC and iPhone and now I'm enjoying VPN security. I see how my real IP address is masked and another IP address generated instead.

    I understand now that this is an extra layer of security to protect one's self against tracking by internet providers, ad companies and much more. I like the speeds they are not bad at all (I was watching YouTube videos and the videos don't slow down at all).

    I also see the VPN logo on the top of information bar whatever is called. I think I'll stick with VPN for a while now. I have a question, which determining country should I use. For now I'm using US but a different state than the one I'm in. Does this really matter?
    Also once I turn GPS on my phone, wouldn't the ISP know my real location and IP address by doing so?

    01-04-2017 07:51 AM
  11. popkurn611's Avatar
    Based on your output I was able to purchase PIA VPN for 1 year and downloaded the app on my PC and iPhone and now I'm enjoying VPN security. I see how my real IP address is masked and another IP address generated instead.

    I understand now that this is an extra layer of security to protect one's self against tracking by internet providers, ad companies and much more. I like the speeds they are not bad at all (I was watching YouTube videos and the videos don't slow down at all).

    I also see the VPN logo on the top of information bar whatever is called. I think I'll stick with VPN for a while now. I have a question, which determining country should I use. For now I'm using US but a different state than the one I'm in. Does this really matter?
    Also once I turn GPS on my phone, wouldn't the ISP know my real location and IP address by doing so?

    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...28329c9f9e.png
    Good question. I have a VPN as well and I wanted to be able to have it mask my location so I can get the blacked out hockey games through the NBC sports app on Android. I figured out that the VPN won't work with the sports app because the sports app requires the location services to be on the phone.

    So it doesn't work and now I am trying to figure out another way to be able to watch NY ranger games! I am a cable cutter and just stream the local channels.
    01-04-2017 09:33 AM
  12. recDNA's Avatar
    Can't you just shut off the vpn then turn it back on?
    01-04-2017 10:00 AM
  13. still1's Avatar
    Can't you just shut off the vpn then turn it back on?
    yes
    01-04-2017 11:05 AM
  14. kenorian's Avatar
    VYPRVPN costs a few bucks ($6 to $8/month depending on if you want 2 to 5 simultaneous connections and a NAT firewall), but you do get what you pay for.
    Unlimited data, 700+ servers across the globe, no 3rd party servers, they own the DNS, no throttling, zero knowledge to increase privacy and defeat censorship, multiple protocols for encryption, so you can choose between level of encryption and speed, incorporated in Switzerland who has the most favorable privacy laws.

    And no, I don't work for them!
    01-04-2017 11:31 AM
  15. recDNA's Avatar
    I only need 1 line. I never use my computer on open wifi. Since I got my V20 I haven't had to use wifi at all due to better reception. I'm sure I will visit someplace I need it but not yet.

    Sounds like many of you have many reasons for VPN other than security. I don't care who knows where I am or when and don't intend to fool VZW so I can use something for free that costs $. All I want is a little security if/when I use an open network. Because I do this so rarely I would only go with one of the free apps in the playstore. Of course I have no idea what THEY do with my data.
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    01-04-2017 12:03 PM
  16. chestvrg's Avatar
    Do you guys recommend the VPN running all the time or just when connecting to wi fi networks ??
    01-04-2017 01:03 PM
  17. N4Newbie's Avatar
    Thanks! I would think these would be more. popular since so many of us use open wifi networks when lte not available.
    Yes, but be warned: Wi-Fi Assistant cannot/will not VPN every Wi-Fi connection. For example, it VPN's my gym's Wi-Fi, but not the Wi-Fi in several restaurants that I frequent. I'm not sure how it decides whether or not a network is "suitable" for VPN, but just be aware that it does not work 100% of the time.
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    01-05-2017 10:39 AM
  18. WClark57's Avatar
    From the support page:

    You might not be able to connect to a nearby open network via Wi-Fi assistant because:

    • We haven't verified that the network is high-quality and reliable.
    • Wi-Fi assistant doesn't connect to networks to which you've already connected manually.
    • Wi-Fi assistant doesn't connect to networks that need you to take steps to connect with, like signing in.


    Try these solutions:

    • If Wi-Fi assistant doesn't connect automatically, you can choose to connect to the Wi-Fi network manually.
    • Important: Other users of an open network may see data sent to that network via a manual connection.
    • If you'd already connected to the network manually, you can "forget" the network. Wi-Fi assistant will then re-connect automatically.


    What appears to happen is that once an SSID for an open network is detected, google connects and tries to establish a VPN connection. That initial connection doesn't appear to allow communication other than the VPN attempt, and that attempt may be doing some testing of bandwidth and such. They call the IP of this initial connection a "canary IP" which I can only think of as a canary in a coal mine, so if the "air" is bad, perhaps it dies.
    01-05-2017 11:07 AM
  19. recDNA's Avatar
    From the support page:

    You might not be able to connect to a nearby open network via Wi-Fi assistant because:

    • We haven't verified that the network is high-quality and reliable.
    • Wi-Fi assistant doesn't connect to networks to which you've already connected manually.
    • Wi-Fi assistant doesn't connect to networks that need you to take steps to connect with, like signing in.


    Try these solutions:

    • If Wi-Fi assistant doesn't connect automatically, you can choose to connect to the Wi-Fi network manually.
    • Important: Other users of an open network may see data sent to that network via a manual connection.
    • If you'd already connected to the network manually, you can "forget" the network. Wi-Fi assistant will then re-connect automatically.


    What appears to happen is that once an SSID for an open network is detected, google connects and tries to establish a VPN connection. That initial connection doesn't appear to allow communication other than the VPN attempt, and that attempt may be doing some testing of bandwidth and such. They call the IP of this initial connection a "canary IP" which I can only think of as a canary in a coal mine, so if the "air" is bad, perhaps it dies.
    Is that the way a paid VPN service behaves as well?
    01-05-2017 11:40 AM
  20. WClark57's Avatar
    At some level, you need a connection on a local network in order to make the connection to the VPN service. It is certainly possible that they would have an app that allows you to connect to their service without formally connecting to a network first.
    01-05-2017 01:03 PM
  21. chestvrg's Avatar
    At some level, you need a connection on a local network in order to make the connection to the VPN service. It is certainly possible that they would have an app that allows you to connect to their service without formally connecting to a network first.
    This would require complete anonymity including making the initial and any concurrent payment via bit coin or something and never disclosing the location by initiating the phone's GPS, but I believe if someone was attempting to hide something else (illegal or crime), then a VPN alone wouldn't protect them.

    In my particular case I just want to keep my surfing habits more private (To include porn, and embarrassing things are meant to be kept private) many times I have been on Facebook and noticed that an ad in reference to something I had been surfing online and it freaked me out how they know. I guess VPN helps wit that.
    01-05-2017 03:02 PM
  22. WClark57's Avatar
    This would require complete anonymity including making the initial and any concurrent payment via bit coin or something and never disclosing the location by initiating the phone's GPS, but I believe if someone was attempting to hide something else (illegal or crime), then a VPN alone wouldn't protect them.

    In my particular case I just want to keep my surfing habits more private (To include porn, and embarrassing things are meant to be kept private) many times I have been on Facebook and noticed that an ad in reference to something I had been surfing online and it freaked me out how they know. I guess VPN helps wit that.
    Cookies are how they know. A VPN will not change that.
    chestvrg likes this.
    01-05-2017 03:52 PM

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