1. Phonejock's Avatar
    I have both the pixel XL and the OP3. I use one for personal and one for business and I have fought and fought it because I see everyone loving the PXL but I like the OP3 better. I can't even imagine the OP3T with bigger battery and faster processor would be. Things I like better on OP3 Screen (not as dense but I can't tell and the colors look much better) The headphone out (it's so much harder louder and better sound). The speed (I get odd hiccups with the XL) THE BEZEL, charging speed, price, feel in the hand,....... Only thing that is better pixel is camera slightly (better for business pics a bit) battery last little longer but charges slow so it's a wash, GPS locks on maybe little better but nothing crazy. And this will make me look crazy to purist..... I don't like on screen navigation buttons. So there you have it feel free to say I'm wrong and I fought it forever but my put both Sims in my OP3.
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    02-06-2017 01:05 AM
  2. radgatt's Avatar
    I have both the pixel XL and the OP3. I use one for personal and one for business and I have fought and fought it because I see everyone loving the PXL but I like the OP3 better. I can't even imagine the OP3T with bigger battery and faster processor would be. Things I like better on OP3 Screen (not as dense but I can't tell and the colors look much better) The headphone out (it's so much harder louder and better sound). The speed (I get odd hiccups with the XL) THE BEZEL, charging speed, price, feel in the hand,....... Only thing that is better pixel is camera slightly (better for business pics a bit) battery last little longer but charges slow so it's a wash, GPS locks on maybe little better but nothing crazy. And this will make me look crazy to purist..... I don't like on screen navigation buttons. So there you have it feel free to say I'm wrong and I fought it forever but my put both Sims in my OP3.
    Everyone has their own preference. I'm glad you were able to find a phone that suits you. Be together, not the same.
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    02-06-2017 08:18 AM
  3. bigmatt503's Avatar
    I have both the pixel XL and the OP3. I use one for personal and one for business and I have fought and fought it because I see everyone loving the PXL but I like the OP3 better. I can't even imagine the OP3T with bigger battery and faster processor would be. Things I like better on OP3 Screen (not as dense but I can't tell and the colors look much better) The headphone out (it's so much harder louder and better sound). The speed (I get odd hiccups with the XL) THE BEZEL, charging speed, price, feel in the hand,....... Only thing that is better pixel is camera slightly (better for business pics a bit) battery last little longer but charges slow so it's a wash, GPS locks on maybe little better but nothing crazy. And this will make me look crazy to purist..... I don't like on screen navigation buttons. So there you have it feel free to say I'm wrong and I fought it forever but my put both Sims in my OP3.
    I REALLY wish the op3 was compatible with Verizon. It checks all the boxes for me... Enjoy your new phone
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    02-06-2017 08:25 AM
  4. Almeuit's Avatar
    Go with what you enjoy. The issues you mentioned I am not seeing so that is why my point of view is different than yours .
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    02-06-2017 09:22 AM
  5. bhatech's Avatar
    As others mentioned you got use what you like. I have had almost all flagships, had the OP 3T as well. Yeah great value for the money, pretty much matches Pixel in every way, better in few but the camera and regular OS/security updates are very important to me. But I think for most people OnePlus has nailed the phone in their recent release.
    Aquila, raqball, WClark57 and 3 others like this.
    02-06-2017 10:47 AM
  6. raqball's Avatar
    When compared to the Pixel XL the OP3 is a good competitor and as stated above, has it's plusses and minuses -v- the Pixel XL.. The Pixel (5") is about as big of a phone as I am willing to go so for me the OP3 was an instant no go as was the Pixel XL for that matter...
    02-06-2017 11:08 AM
  7. Aquila's Avatar
    When compared to the Pixel XL the OP3 is a good competitor and as stated above, has it's plusses and minuses -v- the Pixel XL.. The Pixel (5") is about as big of a phone as I am willing to go so for me the OP3 was an instant no go as was the Pixel XL for that matter...
    Is it the body size or screen size or both that makes that the limit? As an example, if the S8 rumor is true that it's a 5.8" 18.5:9 display on what used to be a 5.1" display's body, is that cool or too big?
    02-06-2017 11:10 AM
  8. raqball's Avatar
    Is it the body size or screen size or both that makes that the limit? As an example, if the S8 rumor is true that it's a 5.8" 18.5:9 display on what used to be a 5.1" display's body, is that cool or too big?
    Overall size.... I had and loved the Xperia Compact phones (Z3 and Z5) and they were perfect size. The Nexus 5 was also just about perfect.. The Pixel is a large phone to me in it's overall dimensions.. I don't think I could deal with anything that's even 1mm larger than it is..

    The S8, for me at least would probably still be to big if it's in the 5.1" body size.
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    02-06-2017 11:14 AM
  9. Aquila's Avatar
    Overall size.... I had and loved the Xperia Compact phones (Z3 and Z5) and they were perfect size. The Nexus 5 was also just about perfect.. The Pixel is a large phone to me in it's overall dimensions.. I don't think I could deal with anything that's even 1mm larger than it is..

    The S8, for me at least would probably still be to big if it's in the 5.1" body size.
    Cool, I'm always curious if it's display size or body when people say x is the limit. S7 Edge, Pixel XL and iPhone 7+ are all 5.5" displays, but are very different bodies (and all obviously way bigger than what you want).
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    02-06-2017 11:17 AM
  10. WClark57's Avatar
    Yeah great value for the money, pretty much matches Pixel in every way, better in few but the camera and regular OS/security updates are very important to me.
    Had to look OP3 up because I didn't know what it was. So no experience, but one of the first checks--especially for business--is how its maintained from a OS perspective. If it doesn't get regular security updates then its not going to be considered at all. In that regard though the Pixel's apparent lack of update notification is a fail unless there are controls that can be set by the administrator to automatically restart the phone either every night or when an update is waiting.

    Another issue is application control. If it has unapproved applications that cannot be uninstalled, then its a no-go.

    I know lots of business do not pay that close attention these days, but that's the environment I've been in for the last 12 years, and its something that's becoming more prevalent.
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    02-06-2017 11:17 AM
  11. bhatech's Avatar
    Had to look OP3 up because I didn't know what it was. So no experience, but one of the first checks--especially for business--is how its maintained from a OS perspective. If it doesn't get regular security updates then its not going to be considered at all. In that regard though the Pixel's apparent lack of update notification is a fail unless there are controls that can be set by the administrator to automatically restart the phone either every night or when an update is waiting.

    Another issue is application control. If it has unapproved applications that cannot be uninstalled, then its a no-go.
    Well we are talking about consumer use here, yours looks like some enterprise scenario. Probably Knox from Samsung or blackberry services may be the way to go for you if you want an administrator controlling stuff. I'm not familiar with enterprise admin stuff so can't fully comment on all available options there.

    Also, don't get the no update notification part? Every Android phone or phone from any platform shows a notification if there is a system update available.
    02-06-2017 11:22 AM
  12. Aquila's Avatar
    Also, don't get the no update notification part? Every Android phone or phone from any platform shows a notification if there is a system update available.
    Seamless updates can get rid of that (to a point). It loads the update silently in the background and when you next reboot it just boots from that new image.
    02-06-2017 11:34 AM
  13. bhatech's Avatar
    Seamless updates can get rid of that (to a point). It loads the update silently in the background and when you next reboot it just boots from that new image.
    But still you get an update notification and you have to say install right? Atleast that's how I remember happening on my pixel XL. Once you say install/update from the notification after that seamless update kicks in.
    02-06-2017 11:36 AM
  14. anon(9227267)'s Avatar
    Cool, I'm always curious if it's display size or body when people say x is the limit. S7 Edge, Pixel XL and iPhone 7+ are all 5.5" displays, but are very different bodies (and all obviously way bigger than what you want).
    I am very comfy with the size of the Pixel - not too big - not too small - just right. Z Force Droid was a great phone, but too big for me - just right for my grandson though - he loves it.
    anon(10092459), raqball and Aquila like this.
    02-06-2017 11:47 AM
  15. N4Newbie's Avatar
    Pixel XL charges slow?

    Are you using the stock charger or just some charger that you have laying about? Modern phones often use proprietary charging methods and to get the fastest possible charge you need to make sure you are using a compatible charger.
    02-06-2017 02:38 PM
  16. bhatech's Avatar
    Pixel XL charges slow?

    Are you using the stock charger or just some charger that you have laying about? Modern phones often use proprietary charging methods and to get the fastest possible charge you need to make sure you are using a compatible charger.
    I think he was comparing to the dash charge on the one plus which charges little faster than the pixel. Not a big deal personally, pretty much every phone now a days have some kind of fast charging.
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    02-06-2017 04:00 PM
  17. anon(9408097)'s Avatar
    I've had the Pixel. I've used it and wanted to like it just like you. But I couldnt. The camera is like no other. That's it. Oneplus 3t and 3 are the best phones of 2016 in my opinion. The camera is a little weak but still doable. I take a looot of photos so I had to go with the second best camera phone; S7 edge. Can't wait for Oneplus to come out with an equally good camera phone and i'll jump on it right that second.
    02-06-2017 04:50 PM
  18. Aquila's Avatar
    Oneplus 3t and 3 are the best phones of 2016 in my opinion.
    The best value or the best phones?
    02-06-2017 04:52 PM
  19. anon(9408097)'s Avatar
    The best value or the best phones?
    If it's one then it's the other too right? I think. For me at least it is.

    Yes. And yes.

    I've said this before, but for me, Oneplus is what represents Android the most appropriately. Even more so than Google.

    Oneplus is freedom; economic, technological (hardware and software). Basically the perfect marriage of the two.

    But that's just my opinion.
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    02-06-2017 04:58 PM
  20. Aquila's Avatar
    If it's one then it's the other too right? I think. For me at least it is.

    Yes. And yes.

    I've said this before, but for me, Oneplus is what represents Android the most appropriately. Even more so than Google.

    Oneplus is freedom; economic, technological (hardware and software). Basically the perfect marriage of the two.

    But that's just my opinion.
    Being one almost automatically makes it not the other unless your sole deciding factor on what makes something the best phone is that it is the best value. Value isn't even on my list of what makes a phone "the best". Price isn't considered at all. Because I believe you can evaluate all of these devices on their own merits, rank them accordingly and then use price as a totally separate comparison to then see which gives you the biggest bang for your buck. How close you can get to the top of the list without overspending = best value.

    OnePlus has IMO made a great many strides since they started, but they're far from the best OEM and the 3T is far from the best device. I could probably get away with pushing it into the top 10 or top 20 devices available, but it'd be a stretch because there are a great number of compromises that some other devices aren't making (they make their own). It remains a very small OEM making a midrange phone particularly to play at the price point. Their goal isn't to knock your socks off with quality everything... it's rather more muted, asking you to try to justify the extra $200-300 - what exactly is that money buying you? And it's a good question.

    So with the way I evaluate phones, being the best value automatically means that you are not the best phone, unless we're in 2015, in which case a good argument could have been made for the 6P on both fronts... but it'd be very difficult to discount the 5X on the value front, so I don't think that argument would win. But being "the best phone" does not mean that it is the best phone for any particular individual, or even for myself. Same thing with the best value. It'd be easy to argue that the Moto G or even Moto E or ZTE Pro whatever with their rock bottom prices are the best value... but no one would ever try to position those as the best phone.
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    02-06-2017 05:08 PM
  21. anon(9408097)'s Avatar
    Being one almost automatically makes it not the other unless your sole deciding factor on what makes something the best phone is that it is the best value. Value isn't even on my list of what makes a phone "the best". Price isn't considered at all. Because I believe you can evaluate all of these devices on their own merits, rank them accordingly and then use price as a totally separate comparison to then see which gives you the biggest bang for your buck. How close you can get to the top of the list without overspending = best value.

    OnePlus has IMO made a great many strides since they started, but they're far from the best OEM and the 3T is far from the best device. I could probably get away with pushing it into the top 10 or top 20 devices available, but it'd be a stretch because there are a great number of compromises that some other devices aren't making (they make their own). It remains a very small OEM making a midrange phone particularly to play at the price point. Their goal isn't to knock your socks off with quality everything... it's rather more muted, asking you to try to justify the extra $200-300 - what exactly is that money buying you? And it's a good question.

    So with the way I evaluate phones, being the best value automatically means that you are not the best phone, unless we're in 2015, in which case a good argument could have been made for the 6P on both fronts... but it'd be very difficult to discount the 5X on the value front, so I don't think that argument would win. But being "the best phone" does not mean that it is the best phone for any particular individual, or even for myself. Same thing with the best value. It'd be easy to argue that the Moto G or even Moto E or ZTE Pro whatever with their rock bottom prices are the best value... but no one would ever try to position those as the best phone.
    You're really informed. Thank you for this. I agree with you.
    02-06-2017 05:11 PM
  22. WClark57's Avatar
    But still you get an update notification and you have to say install right? Atleast that's how I remember happening on my pixel XL. Once you say install/update from the notification after that seamless update kicks in.
    I had to check to see if it was on my system, nothing told me it was there.
    02-07-2017 05:57 PM

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