02-02-2017 04:33 AM
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  1. Morty2264's Avatar
    Does any carrier still have two year service contracts? Verizon,att and T-Mobile don't.
    I live in Canada - we still have two-year contracts here!
    01-31-2017 10:31 PM
  2. dpham00's Avatar
    I live in Canada - we still have two-year contracts here!
    Ah OK. Probably one of the few places that do
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    02-01-2017 12:53 AM
  3. orangecroc's Avatar
    Yes, 2 year contract. But I have been with my carrier for nearly ten years now and would never change, I am really happy with them. I can still buy an unlocked phone mid contract and use my sim card.
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    02-01-2017 02:49 AM
  4. Wildo6882's Avatar
    Does any carrier still have two year service contracts? Verizon,att and T-Mobile don't.
    Basically everyone still does, it just isn't technically a "two year contract". Most of the phone payment plans are for at least 24 months, some 30 months. Most people won't upgrade until their phone is paid off, so they're basically locked in to a two year contract. And even if they upgrade at a year or whatever their carrier lets them upgrade at, they still have to turn in the phone or pay it off, just to get locked back into a deal with their carrier for a new phone.

    Pretty much 6 in one hand, half dozen in the other...
    02-01-2017 10:34 AM
  5. dpham00's Avatar
    Basically everyone still does, it just isn't technically a "two year contract". Most of the phone payment plans are for at least 24 months, some 30 months. Most people won't upgrade until their phone is paid off, so they're basically locked in to a two year contract. And even if they upgrade at a year or whatever their carrier lets them upgrade at, they still have to turn in the phone or pay it off, just to get locked back into a deal with their carrier for a new phone.

    Pretty much 6 in one hand, half dozen in the other...
    That's why i mentioned service contract which no longer exists at least in the USA. What you are referring to is a finance contract , phone payment plan or whatever wherein the carrier finances the phone at zero interest over the life of the loan. This is just like you going to best buy and financing a TV.

    They have similarities but people lambasted the service contracts , so carriers gave you the dpp option. But guess what, it was a trick because carriers wanted to get rid of service contracts anyway.

    And honestly what other option is there? You either pay outright ( new or used), pay over a specified period of time for the phone, or get the phone for a subsidized price, committing to a certain period of time to the carrier.
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    02-01-2017 11:39 AM
  6. Wildo6882's Avatar
    That's why i mentioned service contract which no longer exists at least in the USA. What you are referring to is a finance contract , phone payment plan or whatever wherein the carrier finances the phone at zero interest over the life of the loan. This is just like you going to best buy and financing a TV.

    They have similarities but people lambasted the service contracts , so carriers gave you the dpp option. But guess what, it was a trick because carriers wanted to get rid of service contracts anyway.

    And honestly what other option is there? You either pay outright ( new or used), pay over a specified period of time for the phone, or get the phone for a subsidized price, committing to a certain period of time to the carrier.
    I know it's different. But at the same time, it's the same. It typically doesn't save the consumer much money over the previous two year contract, and most people don't even know that they can leave at any point in time. So the effect is the same. That's really all I was getting at.
    02-01-2017 12:37 PM
  7. dpham00's Avatar
    I know it's different. But at the same time, it's the same. It typically doesn't save the consumer much money over the previous two year contract, and most people don't even know that they can leave at any point in time. So the effect is the same. That's really all I was getting at.
    If you don't know then that means that you either didn't ask or didn't read the terms...

    If you didn't read what you signed then don't complain later.
    02-01-2017 04:57 PM
  8. Wildo6882's Avatar
    If you don't know then that means that you either didn't ask or didn't read the terms...

    If you didn't read what you signed then don't complain later.
    I'm not complaining or fighting about it. I'm just saying that the payment plans are still basically two year contracts. That's all. It's essentially the same out of pocket for the consumer and the average consumer will still upgrade only at two years.
    02-01-2017 05:20 PM
  9. dpham00's Avatar
    I'm not complaining or fighting about it. I'm just saying that the payment plans are still basically two year contracts. That's all. It's essentially the same out of pocket for the consumer and the average consumer will still upgrade only at two years.
    Well the big difference is that carriers took the subsidy out of the plan price with the current plans so you are saving about $20 per line on service when not on subsidized pricing. That gives consumers more options to either keep their phone longer or buy a used phone or buy an unlocked phone to save money. Of course if you upgrade every two years then it won't make much difference in price.

    Also you can payoff a payment plan at any time depending on carrier. For service contract, you cannot pay off the remainder of the contract without cancelling service.
    02-01-2017 05:28 PM
  10. Wildo6882's Avatar
    Well the big difference is that carriers took the subsidy out of the plan price with the current plans so you are saving about $20 per line on service when not on subsidized pricing. That gives consumers more options to either keep their phone longer or buy a used phone or buy an unlocked phone to save money. Of course if you upgrade every two years then it won't make much difference in price.

    Also you can payoff a payment plan at any time depending on carrier. For service contract, you cannot pay off the remainder of the contract without cancelling service.
    Yeah, I definitely agree. And for us geeks, it's actually a nice thing. But all I was meaning is that for most of the public, it's essentially the same thing. And you and I both know that carriers wouldn't be doing this out of the goodness of their hearts - it helps their bottom line too.
    02-01-2017 05:31 PM
  11. orangecroc's Avatar
    I generally like service plans, I get my phone with no upfront cost at the start of the 2 years. Normally I buy an unlocked phone a year later, then when the upgrade comes around I sign on again and get a phone with no upfront cost again on the upgrade.
    I think it helps that I am very happy with my carrier service, and especially now you can get phones like the honor 8 for so little when you want an unlocked phone mid contract.
    02-02-2017 03:30 AM
  12. Dconn1975's Avatar
    Phone carriers aren't going away any time soon and certainly not in our life time. 98 percent of the general market are most likely with a major carrier and have never once thought to break free and say use cricket or some other independent non tied to service provider like a lot of us have done on here. I too was guilty for a long time always being with a carrier. When mobile tech started to become a passion is when I left the carrier world so I could constantly start trying out different devices by way of unlocked phones. I deeply enjoy testing out new devices and experiencing different software and interfaces. The only way for my prediction of Huawei Honor to have a chance to come through largely rides on the top or major carriers to pick them up which equals immediate growth bc majority of people who use a mobile phone are indeed with a carrier so I'm quite sure Huawei Honors goal here is to be picked up by the top US carriers as that then opens up the majority of the market to use or test out their devices which I believe will lead them to eventually surpass Samsung or become in the top two household Android names and of course too if they stay on course with a proven track record of producing a high end flag ship device to be at least 30 percent less in price compared to their biggest competitors which will most likely be google and Samsung. If they did one second raise their prices to that of both of those others then no way they get to the top. I see nothing wrong with taking advantage of a nitch within the market which they've proven already with the Honor 8 can be done. Samsung if they produced the same device as the honor 8, they would charge $600 to $699 and what Huawei Honor has shown is that the market is grossly inflated by big heads forgetting about their customers and solely competing with each other just to say they have the best device. I see nothing wrong with Huawei Honor staying their course to easily compete with those two but saving the customer 25 to 30 percent of their money because Huawei Honors product once in enough hands will easily prove and show that their device is equal to but at a much more affordable price. Unfortunately the realist in me sees Huawei Honor getting caught up in the big head competing factor and they will eventually cave and raise their prices so they can have bragging rights to officially compete. I use my Honor 8 every day and it's every bit equal to my iPhone 6s i had or my Moto Z Force I had but at almost a 35 to 40 percent price savings. Money always ruins a good thing. Anyways carriers are here to stay and Google and Samsung are going to keep grossly overpricing their product and the typical consumer will continued to grossly overpay unless Huawei Honor steps in and capitalizes on that very note and shows that typical consumer that he or she can actually get the same high end spec device $250 dollars cheaper and actually save money. I doubt Huawei Honor will ever take that path but long term if they did, they would be at the top outselling both of those others by double quantity therefore enforcing their long term stability and continued growth rather than making a lot of money for a little while then to eventually drop so far back down that they would probably just give up long term on the US market all together. Hoping they will stick to their core values bc if they do they definitely will be one of the top two or three in two to three years.
    02-02-2017 04:33 AM
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