02-02-2017 04:33 AM
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  1. digitalbreak's Avatar
    Interesting news: Huawei Closing in on Apple, Aims to Become World's Largest Smartphone Maker Within Four Years

    And something interesting in the article:

    But if Huawei ever wants to truly challenge Apple and Samsung, it will have to conquer a key market where it has failed to make a dent: the United States. Huawei does not even crack the list of top ten smartphone makers in the country, trailing behind smaller rivals such as BLU and OnePlus.
    It will be an interesting next 4 years for Huawei/Honor and if they play their cards right, it will be a memorable one!
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    01-26-2017 10:13 AM
  2. libra89's Avatar
    Thanks for sharing! I agree that this will be interesting to see for sure.
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    01-26-2017 10:33 AM
  3. dpham00's Avatar
    I think that there are different goals. Apple doesn't really want to be the number one manufacturer... That would be easy... Just drop the price significantly. They want to make a huge profit.

    With that said, more competition is better, and i really hope that Huawei can continue...it will put the heat on.
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    01-26-2017 11:03 AM
  4. orangecroc's Avatar
    The way they are going with quality handsets, it's only a matter of time. Everyone who looks at my honor 8 is more impressed than they ever were with any of my Samsung or HTC devices. Even some iPhone diehards love it, and that's no mean feature.
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    01-26-2017 11:07 AM
  5. dpham00's Avatar
    The way they are going with quality handsets, it's only a matter of time. Everyone who looks at my honor 8 is more impressed than they ever were with any of my Samsung or HTC devices. Even some iPhone diehards love it, and that's no mean feature.
    Shouldn't be surprising since Honor certainly made it with iPhone users in mind. The Honor 8 is a premium device for sure. I wonder if it is meant as a loss leader to get into the market or if the current pricing is sustainable?
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    01-26-2017 12:59 PM
  6. orangecroc's Avatar
    It's a bad market strategy to use a loss leader without a big marketing push and carrier partnerships to back it, so I sincerely hope it's not that.
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    01-26-2017 02:58 PM
  7. Guytronic's Avatar
    I think the course will change soon with the US altering trade agreements.Phone makers in China may have to cut profits or increase sales in the rest of the globe.Whatever happens expect to pay more for less.
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    01-26-2017 03:10 PM
  8. Morty2264's Avatar
    I hope Huawei can challenge the big guns like Samsung and Apple. Some people are so focused on brand that they won't try anything other than "mainstream." However, it looks like Huawei is making excellent strides and I've tried "different" once with my Honor 8 and it's pretty safe to say that I won't be returning to "popular" devices anytime soon! Branching out to try different products is awesome. Hope Honor and Huawei can get the recognition they deserve soon!
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    01-26-2017 04:32 PM
  9. ce_tx's Avatar
    This phone is what kept me from going iPhone! Coming from Windows Phone, I just wanted a quality device with access to certain apps that I couldn't have on Windows. I planned on buying an iPhone SE, but somehow (and thankfully) came across the specs for the Honor 8. I'd be happy to see Huawei become more successful in the United States. Then again, I kinda like having the awesome phone that nobody's ever heard of.
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    01-28-2017 10:50 AM
  10. Dconn1975's Avatar
    I have been thinking this ever since I bought my first Honor 8. I haven't read that article yet but my prediction is to give Huawei Honor two to three more years of strong US based presence and I personally think they will become the leader or surpass Samsung as the what you call Android household name. Their product speaks volumes for itself. If they can managed to stay true to their core roots which is the best device for the value there is no way possible they wouldn't overtake Samsung. I don't even compare them to Apple. Not bc apple is better but bc I'm speaking solely of android devices. I've never understood from day one why anyone would totally dislike EMUI 4.1. Not once have I ever thought about using my paid version of Nova over this interface. However what I just said, the total opposite could happen if they ignore their roots and economics. They've already proven you can make an equal to device to every current flagship at a great value. If they increase their pricing bc they feel like they need to compete with Samsung or Google that way instead of letting their product compete, they will fail miserably. I'm not saying a small increase will hurt but to price themselves right out of the customer market base who put them in this perfect position to be the top two or three household names would be sheer greed which sadly most companies always fall victim to from that evil mighty dollar. I've seen it happen in the high end Swiss Automatic watch industry and so it will happen to Huawei Honor if they don't stay their course. Right now if they stay true I give it two years, they are at the top here. Increase pricing to that of Samsung and Google they will do no better than HTC or LG and be considered good not the best. The ball lies heavily in their court bc they've got the product to back it up. Big head they don't crack the top 5, stay true to the course they have set thus far, the absolute household name go to Android device here in the US. I have no idea what that article says and I'll read it later but I wanted to give my thoughts without any bias from a authority trend type article rather I say what I think based on my user experience with their product which now all three of my devices are Huawei Honor. Honor 8, Media Pad 3 (by the way is so on even par with the iPad pro and heads and shoulders better than any Android tablet to date) and the Honor 5X that I was honored to win here. :-). I hope to be using a Mate 9 very soon too. Would love to hear your thoughts and feedback to my prediction. I truly believe it will all happen this way depending what economic path this company takes. I strongly stand behind this. No article of any type that I've personally read has influenced any of what I just wrote. That folks is how it will play out.
    01-29-2017 01:00 AM
  11. Dconn1975's Avatar
    Id love to see one good company succeed in the manner of letting their proven track record take them to the top and for once don't get so D***N greedy. I'm not holding my breath though. Money seems to change everything when there's a "possibility" only to make more of it. If they stay the course they'll make more long term. Economics!!!!
    01-29-2017 01:03 AM
  12. Guytronic's Avatar
    Robots assembling tech aren't cheaper they're simply much more reliable which in turn cuts costs.
    I'm waiting for Huawei to begin advertising here in the states.

    Has anyone seen any advertising or other kind of marketing anywhere around the globe other than China yet?
    If few know what you have then few will decide to buy what you make.
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    01-29-2017 01:09 AM
  13. Dconn1975's Avatar
    Robots assembling tech aren't cheaper they're simply much more reliable which in turn cuts costs.
    I'm waiting for Huawei to begin advertising here in the states.

    Has anyone seen any advertising or other kind of marketing anywhere around the globe other than China yet?
    If few know what you have then few will decide to buy what you make.
    Once US carriers pick them up they will skyrocket. Not always about quirky advertising or constant in your face like Samsung. I think they can do this even with just subtle advertising once all US carriers offer them.
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    01-29-2017 01:29 AM
  14. Guytronic's Avatar
    Where's any guarantee US carriers will pick up Huawei products?

    Will carriers appreciate and be able to align with EMUI or will a new slew of phones need to be carrier branded bloat on their version of Android?
    The tide is turning away from carrier branded phones in my opinion.
    Personally I would steer clear of carrier branding.

    Huawei has some work to do in the complex US market.
    Not to mention higher prices for offshore tech products coming to a store near you soon.
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    01-29-2017 01:40 AM
  15. Dconn1975's Avatar
    Key to it is they stay true to their current core which is the best devices at the best value. Not one top company can truly say that and back it up. Huawei honor can only if they stay their course. Long term it will make them triple the money the short term advertising will do. No different than taking a Nexus 6p and saying they majorly changed it and then Google branded it with their name pixel and doubled the price. I know bc I've used both. There is no way on this earth the Pixel is $350 dollars better value than the Nexus 6p. Greed and Google branding equals double price hike. None of these companies listens to basic economics anymore. They all aren't in reality and only compete with each other instead of providing a high end device at the best economic value for the customer. None do right now that are at the top and Huawei Honor could so easily capitalize on their egos if so they choose to. I'm purposely not reading any articles in regard to Huawei Honor US tends just to see if economics 101 is worth the book it was written in and to also see how Huawei plans to take care of their customer as opposed to totally forgetting about them and getting into an ego battle war with their competitors. Telling you this is exactly the same trend the high end Swiss watch industry is struggling with right now. All the best companies are struggling while maybe two or three stayed true to the market which are excelling during the toughest economic times.
    01-29-2017 01:44 AM
  16. Guytronic's Avatar
    Well my best to Huawei.
    When they put the best foot forward their products are a winner.

    Pricing on honor products will rise though.
    That's just how it is today.

    I'm glad the honor 8 came my way.
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    01-29-2017 02:03 AM
  17. Matty's Avatar
    Interesting news: Huawei Closing in on Apple, Aims to Become World's Largest Smartphone Maker Within Four Years

    And something interesting in the article:

    But if Huawei ever wants to truly challenge Apple and Samsung, it will have to conquer a key market where it has failed to make a dent: the United States. Huawei does not even crack the list of top ten smartphone makers in the country, trailing behind smaller rivals such as BLU and OnePlus.
    It will be an interesting next 4 years for Huawei/Honor and if they play their cards right, it will be a memorable one!
    Thanks for the article link digital break!

    I'm personally always rooting for the underdog. When ever i walk around shopping malls all you see is Samsung and iPhones. It would be awesome to see a Honor 8 or a OnePlus 3T or maybe even a Blackberry!

    Should be very exciting times in the next 5 years! Cant wait to see what happens
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    01-29-2017 02:26 AM
  18. orangecroc's Avatar
    Apparently, Chinese companies are set to significantly raise prices to offset any trade restrictions put in place by the current administration.
    This could put the brakes on.
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    01-29-2017 04:57 AM
  19. Morty2264's Avatar
    Robots assembling tech aren't cheaper they're simply much more reliable which in turn cuts costs.
    I'm waiting for Huawei to begin advertising here in the states.

    Has anyone seen any advertising or other kind of marketing anywhere around the globe other than China yet?
    If few know what you have then few will decide to buy what you make.
    I haven't seen anything advertising-wise in Canada. A rep at the Rogers store didn't know what an Honor 8 was. And people here do ask me what kind of phone I have - one said it looked like an iPhone, and my aversion-to-Apple nature made me cringe internally LOOL.

    Hopefully Honor/Huawei makes more tracks in terms of advertising in North America, because these are worthwhile products at great prices.
    01-29-2017 06:06 PM
  20. Dconn1975's Avatar
    As soon as US carriers pick them up is when you'll see an immediate increase in all facets for this company. It's a matter of getting the phone in customers hands and then it's off from there.
    01-29-2017 11:50 PM
  21. dpham00's Avatar
    Where's any guarantee US carriers will pick up Huawei products?

    Will carriers appreciate and be able to align with EMUI or will a new slew of phones need to be carrier branded bloat on their version of Android?
    The tide is turning away from carrier branded phones in my opinion.
    Personally I would steer clear of carrier branding.

    Huawei has some work to do in the complex US market.
    Not to mention higher prices for offshore tech products coming to a store near you soon.
    Huawei devices were sold by T-Mobile... Of course T-Mobile stopped selling them due to Huawei allegedly stealing proprietary technology from them... Probably doesn't help much when you allegedly steal from your carrier partners.

    With that said they also made phone for att.
    01-30-2017 07:35 PM
  22. Dconn1975's Avatar
    I think carriers will eventually be forced to pick them up by who? All of us. Their customer base that grows daily. I agree with what one said that carrier branded phones aren't the best but on the opposite end of that they still control the majority of the market and will continue to do so for a long time to come. When customers force the carrier's hands to supply Huawei Honor which that will happen. Not tomorrow but down the road then you see a sluggish take off then it'll hit a boom and explode but only if Huawei plays their hand they have been dealt right. They don't have much room for error I will definitely say that but at the same time the door is as wide open as it's going to ever be for Huawei which is when you hope and root for them to know how to play poker. Timing is everything before they go all in. My thing is ego. Ego and money typically are always mentioned together. I really like Huawei honors product a lot. I hope they play it right but I will tell you quickly if they leave their roots and think they have to compete price wise with Samsung and Google then they will loose me and a lot of other sensible customers. They have already with solid proof produced a flagship phone the Honor 8 at a value to the customer. How can they ignore common sense economics and leave that strategy? If they do then they deserve to not crack the top 7 which is what will happen. Keep doing what they are doing bc it's working very well. Sure small price increases are expected but they should still be the top value Android Flagship phone company and they can be and there is nothing wrong with that. Customers aren't going to think if they don't pay $700 for a phone and pay $499 or $550 instead that it's lacking when the proof is in the product to show it not. They will love to save the money. This is simple. Greed, they loose. Stay their course they go straight to the top. It really is that simple.
    01-30-2017 08:00 PM
  23. orangecroc's Avatar
    They'll likely never work with t-mobile, as they have counter sued that t-mobile broke patent 4g agreements.
    While I am against carrier phones due to bloatware, that make phones even cheaper. Buying honor allowed me to have unlimited calls and messaging with 30gb of data for nearly £20 less a month than a pixel or top end samsung, saving me over £500, and that's with a carrier that supplies unlocked phones!
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    01-31-2017 04:15 AM
  24. Morty2264's Avatar
    @orangecroc, I agree with you - I, too, am slowly becoming anti-carrier phones due to not only the bloatware, but the fact that they lock you in to a two-year contract with no hope of escape! LOOL okay, maybe it's not that bleak; but that's certainly how I felt with my last device. But when I bought my Honor 8, I did realize that there was much less carrier bloatware - I have maybe one Rogers app. Also, congratulations on your savings!
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    01-31-2017 03:07 PM
  25. dpham00's Avatar
    @orangecroc, I agree with you - I, too, am slowly becoming anti-carrier phones due to not only the bloatware, but the fact that they lock you in to a two-year contract with no hope of escape! LOOL okay, maybe it's not that bleak; but that's certainly how I felt with my last device. But when I bought my Honor 8, I did realize that there was much less carrier bloatware - I have maybe one Rogers app. Also, congratulations on your savings!
    Does any carrier still have two year service contracts? Verizon,att and T-Mobile don't.
    01-31-2017 09:07 PM
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