I ended up selling my honor 8 and picking up the mate9. Also due to inconsistent billing issues with att I will be switching carriers. Most likely to a cdma carrier, which means no unlocked phones. I hope that us carriers start to actually pay attention to the honor brands and Huawei in general. What I can say is that I don't actually miss either phone. What I miss is emui 4.1. The most solid functioning UI in have used that was distinctly different from all other basic android phones. Then emui 5.0 was just another basic *** UI that copied everything everybody else did. Absolutely no difference from any other UI on the market. Having used LG, Samsung, ZTE, HTC, ASUS AND EMUI 5 all with in 4 months it was clear that emui 5 was just another cookie cutter crap UI. I thought the mate 9 would be different nope same basic samsung UI copy. I guess what I'm getting at is I thought would miss the honor 8 and the mate 9. In the end they have successfully made another copy of the same exact UI that is on every phone ever made that has android running it.