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  1. dpham00's Avatar
    Jerry had a bad experience with the htc 10 and the Pixel C charger. HTC chose to make both the wall charger and 10 itself both non - standard (they do not comply with usb c standards, although they do comply to qualcomm quick charge standards)

    My HTC 10 hates the Pixel C charger My HTC 10 hates the Pixel C charger | Android Central
    05-17-2016 04:31 PM
  2. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Thanks for sharing that information. That will be helpful for a lot of people.
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    05-17-2016 04:37 PM
  3. thejesse's Avatar
    I've charged my 10 using at least six different type A chargers without issue. My understanding of what I've read from Benson Leung is that you should be fine with any type A charger. The danger lies in using a type C charger.
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    05-17-2016 05:07 PM
  4. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Even more fragmentation in the aftermarket accessory market....
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    05-17-2016 06:01 PM
  5. freedomx20a's Avatar
    USB c has types?
    A and c? Wth

    posted via the lovely innovative Priv by BlackBerry - Powered by Android
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    05-17-2016 06:36 PM
  6. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    The whole point of USB-C was to have one standard plug that could be used in anything else that also has that plug.

    Now, HTC and Qualcomm have tainted that. They might be the first (third party cable makers notwithstanding) but they probably won't be the last.

    I have a bad feeling that Samsung is going to do something similar......
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    05-17-2016 06:40 PM
  7. dpham00's Avatar
    USB c has types?
    A and c? Wth

    posted via the lovely innovative Priv by BlackBerry - Powered by Android
    There are a lot of types. But some of the more common ones

    Be careful what charger you use with the HTC 10...-uploadfromtaptalk1463533128920.jpg
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    05-17-2016 08:58 PM
  8. Bearcats98's Avatar
    Still an issue and its going to end up a black eye for HTC (even though its the QC chip thats the true problem; poor vendor choice). I have three "old" HTC chargers (TypeA). I have not even used my quick charger. The OEM provided cord and those old chargers seem to work fine (seem). Phone is ice cold during charging and takes about 2.25 hours to charge from about 12%ish. But to contribute to my paranoia; I take the case off and put it on the aluminum case of my computer...LOL!

    However I am still wary of charging and it doesn't charge unattended as I am not completely sure what is going to happen in the event something might happen like to Jerry. Phil was lucky and it gave him a warning. Jerrys just power charged.

    What I would like to know is what did Phil use? Jerry used a C - C charger which I was also under the impression was where the issue really comes into play.

    Standards...harumph...who needs em....apparently. And for those that say "Pay attention to the back". True, one has to be aware. But geez how many of us have a ton of old chargers laying around from previous phones? And honestly its in the smallest dog gone script. I wasn't even aware of it until the post in this thread.

    I am not returning it. I am just going to be more careful is all. But for me thats no issue.
    05-17-2016 09:14 PM
  9. Hydraulic Jack's Avatar
    I guess the question is does anyone make a safe car charger for it? HJ
    05-17-2016 09:33 PM
  10. dpham00's Avatar
    Sooooooo, why use a Pixel C charger if it's not on the approved list for 3.0 charging? Warning...don't put beer in your tank. It will not work like fuel.
    If it follows the usb c spec then using a pixel c charger won't cause a problem. You can use the Pixel C charger on a 6p or 5x just fine.

    Also your analogy is flawed. The beer can isn't shaped anything like a fuel dispenser. This is more like pumping diesel into a gas car.... Except you can't (easily at least) as there are safeguards so a diesel nozzle will not easily fit into a gas car. Whereas htc is making the plug identical when it is not compatible
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    05-17-2016 09:57 PM
  11. dpham00's Avatar
    HTC says to only use their charger. Qualcomm has a list on their website of what chargers are compatible with QC 3.0 devices. As a pilot, there are notes, warnings, and cautions about what you should and shouldn't do with a million dollar plane. If you don't want to follow the notes, warnings, and cautions from Qualcomm or HTC, then that's your problem. The pixel wasn't made for the HTC 10. So why use it is my point? It's not on any list. I'm only using the HTC charger or the chargers listed on the Qualcomm website. Why buy a $700 phone then try and charge it with a cheapo charger? From my understanding, everything about Nexus devices are cheap.

    I'm going to buy a Benz and put a Mazda battery in it. Really?

    Common sense never prevails in this forum at times.

    There's nothing wrong with putting a mazda battery in a Benz(although it would look funny) , so long as it meets all the requirements. Benz would not be able to deny warranty service on the rest of the car, provided that the battery itself wasn't at fault.

    While you might not , A lot of people buy third party chargers /cables. There's nothing wrong with this. Everyone is happy so long as the device and the charger follow the standards for the connector type(in this case, usb c) .

    As to what htc said, they recommend theirs but they say you can use third party from reputable brands, the Pixel C would qualify as such:

    "HTC has configured our Quick Charge 3.0 implementation to Qualcomm's spec."

    "We always recommend that users charge with HTC's first-party chargers (including the USB-C cable). If a user opts for a third-party charger or cable, we strongly advise they purchase only from reputable brands."
    http://www.androidcentral.com/qualco...-compatibility
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    05-17-2016 11:22 PM
  12. DJ Grand Theft Audio's Avatar
    What about using battery packs. I carry a few of them just in case my devices run out of battery while on the move.
    05-18-2016 04:48 AM
  13. Bearcats98's Avatar
    Reputable doesn't equate to Pixel C. Seriously? I bet 99% of people never heard of Pixel C. It's not listed anywhere in writing. So how you gathered that from the word reputable, I have no clue. I can name a bunch of reputable chargers too.

    You don't work on cars. Please stick to phones and NEVER open the hood of a car ever. Just because a battery meets the requirements doesn't mean anything. The manufacturer makes recommendations for a reason. If Benz wanted a Mazda battery in their cars they would use the same supplier as Mazda. You buy a Benz for looks and quality to include parts. If you are allowing a mechanic to use a bottom basement battery in your car you probably shouldn't own a Benz. With your premise, you should take your Benz to any mechanic and that's just outright idiotic. People drive hours to have their Benz serviced by Mercedes and not a local mechanic. In the end, you get what you pay for.

    Telling people to buy chargers that are not sanctioned is a slippery slope. You could potentially be the reason why someone messes up their phone. It's just extremely irresponsible of you.
    This post really puts the responses into perspective. There is no such thing as a Benz battery anyway (I did chuckle at the premium part comment). They are sold by shape, CCA and post position. If those match its a "match".

    I do agree with deviating from a recommendation list. But I believe in this case its more of a fear derived conclusion versus a "eh, I should be ok" conclusion. Only time will tell how things work. But this certainly does not help HTC

    And reputable is a very gray word. I certainly would not be paying over 80 grand for a device that constantly has issues with its CANBUS system.
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    05-18-2016 07:09 AM
  14. isdaako's Avatar
    A car thread! Besides, the 10 is more the BMW of phones.

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    05-18-2016 07:20 AM
  15. isdaako's Avatar
    This post really puts the responses into perspective. There is no such thing as a Benz battery anyway (I did chuckle at the premium part comment). They are sold by shape, CCA and post position. If those match its a "match".

    I do agree with deviating from a recommendation list. But I believe in this case its more of a fear derived conclusion versus a "eh, I should be ok" conclusion. Only time will tell how things work. But this certainly does not help HTC

    And reputable is a very gray word. I certainly would not be paying over 80 grand for a device that constantly has issues with its CANBUS system.
    I did a stint, back in the day, working at a automotive battery factory. The batteries were identical until just before boxing. That's where the brand identification stickers were applied.
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    05-18-2016 07:32 AM
  16. murphcid's Avatar
    Could it also be that tablet chargers pull more power than phone chargers?
    05-18-2016 07:56 AM
  17. bigrey81's Avatar
    I guess the question is does anyone make a safe car charger for it? HJ
    Yes. Anker does, I have had no issues with it so far.

    Posted via the Android Central App
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    05-18-2016 07:58 AM
  18. CJM662's Avatar
    Just read this article - http://phandroid.com/2016/05/18/htc-...pe-c-incident/.
    "The reason for the warnings came because the spec for the USB Type-C port, “doesn’t support proprietary charging technology above 5V.” This is important in regards to the HTC 10 because the charger included with this device is not only USB Type-C 3.1, but also supports Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0, meaning that your device is actually charging at a rate of 9V-12V, instead of the max of 5V supported by Type-C."
    05-18-2016 08:10 AM
  19. popartist's Avatar
    What about using battery packs. I carry a few of them just in case my devices run out of battery while on the move.
    I was wondering about this too, was just about to buy a new one for this phone since I have eight days of outdoor music festivals coming up this summer.

    I have been using an old HTC QC 2.0 charger with a Benson-approved Aukey A to C cable from Amazon as my spare office charger and it has been fine, although the phone does get a little warm on occasion (not very hot though).
    05-18-2016 08:16 AM
  20. CJM662's Avatar
    So is it the charger or the cable?
    05-18-2016 08:16 AM
  21. Not Quite Right's Avatar
    I think for the two people who bought a Pixle C & HTC 10 this is a great concern, the rest of the world can just calm down and go back to what they were doing ...
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    05-18-2016 09:23 AM
  22. LeoRex's Avatar
    So is it the charger or the cable?
    Neither. It's the phone.

    Seriously... The fault here in with HTC and Qualcomm... Qualcomm for basically thumbing their noses at the new specification to keep the licensing money coming in and HTC for building a phone that claims it has a USB-C connection but, in reality, is a micro USB with a USB-C form factor. The whole point of a standard is that everyone follows and everything can be mixed and matched without fear of a problem... like your phone going all meltdowny.
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    05-18-2016 09:32 AM
  23. Almeuit's Avatar
    Telling people to buy chargers that are not sanctioned is a slippery slope. You could potentially be the reason why someone messes up their phone. It's just extremely irresponsible of you.
    I didn't see dpham recommend this at all so I am not sure how he is being irresponsible... So let's take the accusations down a notch. Debates are nice but trying to insult or insinuate someone is saying something which clearly wasn't the case isn't needed.

    He simply said people DO buy 3rd party cables/chargers (this is not new) and HTC only recommended to use their cables but said if you do buy 3rd party cables.. to buy them from "reputable brands". Just because you don't see the Pixel C as popular doesn't mean it isn't reputable. It is made by Google who makes Android so I would normally think of them as reputable. A buyer may come to this conclusion or may buy some other 3rd party brand they have used in the past (who they think is reputable) but HTC may not think so and therefore it causes an issue. I could see your point if HTC said "Only buy from these 3rd party brands as we count them as reputable" but they didn't.
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    05-18-2016 09:34 AM
  24. LeoRex's Avatar
    But the core issue here is someone who might not be aware that the 10 has a broken USB-C connection and they go out and pick up a brick and cable that they researched and found to be 100% USB-C compliant, to the last letter.... and that fact alone leads to a potential for some spitzen-sparken. That's really messed up. This isn't someone buying some cheap knock off or a $.99 charger they picked up at the local bodega.
    05-18-2016 09:48 AM
  25. Aquila's Avatar
    I think for the two people who bought a Pixle C & HTC 10 this is a great concern, the rest of the world can just calm down and go back to what they were doing ...
    This is a concern for 100% of people who bought an HTC 10 and attempt to use it with any charger not intended specifically for use with the HTC 10 - unless they KNOW that specific charger is not going to be a problem because of their knowledge of the specific components. Because HTC intentionally sabotaged the implementation of USB C, there is no quick and easy way to know which ones are safe and which ones are putting lives at risk. That's not hyperbole, that's a legit risk of HTC's intentional actions here. This can easily start fires and electrical fires aren't funny. This isn't trivial and HTC isn't putting out any effort to educate people on the proper usage and/or risks. Obviously everyone in the forums has access to this information and can change their charging habits accordingly... but what about the other 99% of HTC 10 owners?
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    05-18-2016 10:17 AM
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