07-06-2011 05:15 PM
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  1. wburbage's Avatar
    I hate to even be thinking about it but I may need to return my EVO 3D. I really love the phone but the cell signal I've been getting is really bad. On my old Samsung Moment I would get between 3-4 bar (out of 5) while I was at work. At the same desk the EVO 3D fluctuates between zero and one bar. Not only do I have to worry about getting calls or texts but that's gotta be taking a hit on the battery.

    I also notice that while I'm home (I live in an area that does not get a good Sprint signal) the EVO 3D doesn't seem to be picking up my Airave. The Airave is sitting on top of my computer and while I'm working on the computer the phone will register 1-3 bars.

    Everything I've been reading says HTC phones are known for having poor reception which has me thinking this isn't the phone for me.

    Is there any chance HTC or the dev community can tweak the software to make this better?
    07-04-2011 10:13 PM
  2. trooper54's Avatar
    I hate to even be thinking about it but I may need to return my EVO 3D. I really love the phone but the cell signal I've been getting is really bad. On my old Samsung Moment I would get between 3-4 bar (out of 5) while I was at work. At the same desk the EVO 3D fluctuates between zero and one bar. Not only do I have to worry about getting calls or texts but that's gotta be taking a hit on the battery.

    I also notice that while I'm home (I live in an area that does not get a good Sprint signal) the EVO 3D doesn't seem to be picking up my Airave. The Airave is sitting on top of my computer and while I'm working on the computer the phone will register 1-3 bars.

    Everything I've been reading says HTC phones are known for having poor reception which has me thinking this isn't the phone for me.

    Is there any chance HTC or the dev community can tweak the software to make this better?
    I could be mistaken, but doesn't each devices have to be specifically added to the airave ? I would call customer support and see if they can help you out with that.

    As for the poor signal strength, each phone has slightly different antennae, which pick up frequencies differently.

    I've had nothing but good experiences with HTC devices, but always had poor reception with my launch day pre.

    I would make sure to update PRL and Profile just to double check everything is kosher there.

    The dev community might come out with some fixes, but only time will tell. There's big progress but it still might be a while till we can flash any ROMs or user fixes.
    07-04-2011 10:41 PM
  3. McPlot's Avatar
    Also make sure you did the over the air HTC updates. If not, you will have some issues
    07-04-2011 10:44 PM
  4. wburbage's Avatar
    I have done the PRL, Profile and HTC updates so I'm up to date on all of those fronts. I did give Sprint a call last week about the general signal issues I've been having and they said they'll send a tech out to the towers to "take a look". Not sure what to expect there, if anything.

    I don't believe the Airave is specific to any one device but it's worth a call to them. When they sent it to me they said any Sprint customers in my area would also benefit from the signal which is why I'm thinking that. It's worth the 10 minute call though. Now if I can only figure a way to get an Airave for the office... ;-)
    07-04-2011 10:50 PM
  5. uh60james's Avatar
    Are you actually having call quality issues or is the just an issue of not having enough bars? The reason I ask is because on my OG Evo I would have 1 or no bars and some places and could still make calls just fine. My 3D actually shows better signal, according to the bars anyway.

    There is a way to view your signal strength, I believe going through ##DATA# not sure where the post is though.
    07-04-2011 11:35 PM
  6. ZDriver's Avatar
    I'm having same issues, original EVO had a much better cellular radio. EVO3D is going back today.....
    07-05-2011 06:02 AM
  7. wburbage's Avatar
    I believe its truly an issue with the signal strength. I use the weather lock screen which displays the location you're current in. During the day, while at work, it'll rotate between 4 different towns. So the phone is constantly searching for a signal. I was also questioning if its a case of the display or actual.strength but to me this clearly indicates that its not just the display... I could he wrong though.

    There is a widget that will show the signal strength which i'll reload. Do you what a decent level would be and what strength the phone would start looking for another tower?
    07-05-2011 06:13 AM
  8. uh60james's Avatar
    Found where to view the signal strength. From the dialer dial ##debug# select EVDO Engineering. With three out of six bars my Rx Signal Strength is 92 and my Rx Power is -89.50 dbm. Lower is better here but I don't know the ranges. The lowest I have ever seen on my Virgin Mobile aircrard is 80 dbm and the highest was 119 dbm which was giving me very slow speeds. Maybe this will help you.
    07-05-2011 02:07 PM
  9. mycrownvic02#WN's Avatar
    I know you say you updated the prl. but what version does your prl say on it? settings>aboutphone> software information>more prl version? what does the number say?
    07-05-2011 04:48 PM
  10. mycrownvic02#WN's Avatar
    I suggest that everyone check what version your evo 3d prl is on. I work for sprint, and I often see the 3ds with the wrong prl on them.. My evo had the wrong prl when I got it.
    07-05-2011 04:51 PM
  11. solo1's Avatar
    I suggest that everyone check what version your evo 3d prl is on. I work for sprint, and I often see the 3ds with the wrong prl on them.. My evo had the wrong prl when I got it.
    You give people advice to check the PRL ... But you don't give the number the PRL should be on .
    07-05-2011 04:57 PM
  12. Insp_Gadget's Avatar
    My PRL is at 21079.
    07-05-2011 05:20 PM
  13. mycrownvic02#WN's Avatar
    You give people advice to check the PRL ... But you don't give the number the PRL should be on .
    Was getting there...
    07-05-2011 05:22 PM
  14. mycrownvic02#WN's Avatar
    My PRL is at 21079.

    Your prl is off should be 60679... A simple trip to the sprint store should fix this. Its in the cellebrite machine, and every store should be updated by now.
    07-05-2011 05:24 PM
  15. Insp_Gadget's Avatar
    Your prl is off should be 60679... A simple trip to the sprint store should fix this. Its in the cellebrite machine, and every store should be updated by now.
    So, if that's the case, you're saying we are unable to rely on the phone's update settings tool? I say this because I just ran a PRL update. Are the PRLs regional?
    07-05-2011 05:28 PM
  16. Merlin_AZ's Avatar
    Question.
    Is everyone's PRL supposed to be at 60679?
    I'm in Phoenix and I'm at 21079 also, and it says it's up to date.
    07-05-2011 05:38 PM
  17. Insp_Gadget's Avatar
    Question.
    Is everyone's PRL supposed to be at 60679?
    I'm in Phoenix and I'm at 21079 also, and it says it's up to date.
    I'm in MD, so it's evidently not regional. Either we're up-to-date, and 60679 is for another phone, or there is something really wrong with the PRL system on the EVO 3D.
    07-05-2011 05:42 PM
  18. mycrownvic02#WN's Avatar
    So, if that's the case, you're saying we are unable to rely on the phone's update settings tool? I say this because I just ran a PRL update. Are the PRLs regional?
    Even when I updated my prl, it stayed on 21079 until I used the cellebrite to update it... Updating it from the menu settings doesnt always seem to work..
    07-05-2011 05:43 PM
  19. mycrownvic02#WN's Avatar
    I'm in MD, so it's evidently not regional. Either we're up-to-date, and 60679 is for another phone, or there is something really wrong with the PRL system on the EVO 3D.
    Yea I dont believe its regional, but could be wrong.. Almost every evo 3d I work on at the shop has an off prl. The complaint is usually dropped calls, and not getting emails. This is when I know its another 3d with an off prl before even looking at it.
    07-05-2011 05:46 PM
  20. mycrownvic02#WN's Avatar
    I'm in MD, so it's evidently not regional. Either we're up-to-date, and 60679 is for another phone, or there is something really wrong with the PRL system on the EVO 3D.
    The prl system is messed im guessing.. I worked on 2 evo 3ds today, and they both came in with 21079 prls, and once I updated them on the cellebrite, everything worked... Hell even my evo's data wouldnt work when I first got it. My prl was off, and once I updated it, it worked great... The cellebrite system is usually very up to date. Infact the 3vo 3d was just added to the prl list just last weekend. I will get on the sprint employee forums to check out other service centers tomorrow to see if they are having the same issues..
    07-05-2011 05:49 PM
  21. Insp_Gadget's Avatar
    Even when I updated my prl, it stayed on 21079 until I used the cellebrite to update it... Updating it from the menu settings doesnt always seem to work..
    Did that make a difference in your reception? My reception is "ok" but admittedly it's not at the level I had on my original EVO.

    Edit: Okay, just saw your reply. I guess I'll make a trip to Sprint to get it checked out.
    07-05-2011 05:51 PM
  22. mycrownvic02#WN's Avatar
    Did that make a difference in your reception? My reception is "ok" but admittedly it's not at the level I had on my original EVO.

    Edit: Okay, just saw your reply. I guess I'll make a trip to Sprint to get it checked out.
    Its worth a shot... Just make sure you go to a reputable shop that knows what they are doing.. Im sure their are are some stores that didnt even know the cellebrite can update your prl..
    07-05-2011 06:00 PM
  23. jackitoday's Avatar
    I had just decided today that I was going to have to take my 3d back -- came here for a last ditch try at finding a solution. I sure hope this is it. I depend on the hotspot to get internet coverage out here in the boonies -- and in order to get this phone to give me any internet I have to prop it against the window sill. Can't use the phone in bed at all -- and it's only three feet away from the window. I never had any issues on the 3g. I do have the 'wrong' prl apparently, but where to take it is an issue for me. We have no corporate Sprint stores within 40 miles -- do the franchise stores, or Best Buy have that device I need to change the prl?
    07-05-2011 06:49 PM
  24. Merlin_AZ's Avatar
    Had my son call Sprint.
    They said we should be on 21079.
    ???
    07-05-2011 06:53 PM
  25. YBCold's Avatar
    Had my son call Sprint.
    They said we should be on 21079.
    ???
    Keep in mind that this could be because the PRL has not been released as a regional update yet and the one that is being referenced is still being tested.

    Just a thought!
    07-05-2011 08:29 PM
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