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  1. D3luSi0n4L's Avatar
    Excellent review, thanks for the share! Im getting this thing day one!
    05-20-2011 12:17 PM
  2. dkotoric's Avatar
    Your getting defensive for no reason now, just helping youuu out. I wish they can just come up with a replacement batery door that has the hinge attached to it, a 2 in 1. It would be slimer, which is a factor that just like you I also like.
    +1000000
    05-20-2011 12:29 PM
  3. Jackietreehorn's Avatar
    ^^^^^^^ Agreed!

    I'm not interested in a case unless it's razor thin and feather light...which I don't think a kickstand case would be. However, if someone comes up with a replacement battery door with a kickstand that doesn't add too much bulk, I'm totally in.
    05-20-2011 12:35 PM
  4. slag02's Avatar
    The sprint Rep said a battery cover with a kickstand is in the works

    Sent via tapatalk from the EVO 4G
    05-20-2011 12:57 PM
  5. pakman3000's Avatar
    Looking forward to the Verizon version, which should come in, what, 7 months?
    Sweet. Then you can get their Truly Limited plan.

    Verizon finally killing unlimited data plans this summer, says it'll get iPhone 5 at same time as AT&T -- Engadget
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    05-20-2011 12:57 PM
  6. CarrieK's Avatar
    I love, love, love my EVO 4G which means I will have to give it up to something worthy if I give it up at all. I have an upgrade that I've been sitting on for a very long time, waiting for such a device. As of right now I am very impressed, and if I can get a replacement battery door with a kickstand (use mine a lot as do many others here) then I am leaning toward this phone. The 3D part, eh, don't care so much but ok to have, but the full HDMI mirroring and faster speed have my mouth watering...
    05-20-2011 01:49 PM
  7. FocusFreak's Avatar
    The phone is so great and you cant wait to own it because it....opens apps quickly? hmmm. My Evo and now my Nexus S 4G open them fast as well. You really didnt say anything that made me feel I need to run out and buy this phone.
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    05-20-2011 01:56 PM
  8. Averix's Avatar
    The phone is so great and you cant wait to own it because it....opens apps quickly? hmmm. My Evo and now my Nexus S 4G open them fast as well. You really didnt say anything that made me feel I need to run out and buy this phone.
    The speed improvement is obviously subjective per user in a lot of cases. Wait until launch and then try one out for yourself. Only you can decide if the speed improvements are enough to satisfy you.
    Personally, after having used it, I'm getting one. The new Sense doesn't seem to lag at all on this and it looks great.
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    05-20-2011 02:11 PM
  9. gabato's Avatar
    Thanks for the review. Now, I (like many of you) is waiting on the release date. I will be in line like I was for the Palm Pre and the EVO 4g.
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    05-20-2011 02:31 PM
  10. CarrieK's Avatar
    The phone is so great and you cant wait to own it because it....opens apps quickly? hmmm. My Evo and now my Nexus S 4G open them fast as well. You really didnt say anything that made me feel I need to run out and buy this phone.
    Yes, imho speed does matter, as does the full HDMI. I have debated on getting the Nexus S but the EVO 3D just seems like a better phone for me and what I would like to use it for, if I decide to use my upgrade.
    05-20-2011 03:05 PM
  11. FocusFreak's Avatar
    Yes, imho speed does matter, as does the full HDMI. I have debated on getting the Nexus S but the EVO 3D just seems like a better phone for me and what I would like to use it for, if I decide to use my upgrade.
    I see. What can you do with the Evo 3D you cant with the Nexus S? Serious question because I was on the fence about the two. Only difference really is 3D obviously but its still brand new and not much out for it. There are 2 things the Nexus can do the 3D cant. Get official updates as soon as they are released and free hotspot/tethering. Dual core will be the next big thing soon, but its not a NEED right now. I have never been on my phone (Evo or Nexus S) and thought, wow I wish that opened faster. What in your mind gives the 3D a decided advantage? I dont care for Sense, I replaced it with Launcher Pro on my Evo
    05-20-2011 03:14 PM
  12. wirelessness#AC's Avatar
    So what exactly happened when you tried to play the Spider Man game over HDMI to the external display? I see it didn't launch/work for some reason but it was not clear to me why.
    05-20-2011 03:22 PM
  13. jeffreytz's Avatar
    I see. What can you do with the Evo 3D you cant with the Nexus S? Serious question because I was on the fence about the two. Only difference really is 3D obviously but its still brand new and not much out for it. There are 2 things the Nexus can do the 3D cant. Get official updates as soon as they are released and free hotspot/tethering. Dual core will be the next big thing soon, but its not a NEED right now. I have never been on my phone (Evo or Nexus S) and thought, wow I wish that opened faster. What in your mind gives the 3D a decided advantage? I dont care for Sense, I replaced it with Launcher Pro on my Evo
    Well for people who love Sense I think the new Qualcomm processor is more important than people are giving it credit, there's a LOT going on in Sense 3.0 from a graphical standpoint and that dual core/enhanced graphics silicon is what makes it silky smooth. If you're a straight AOSP person than HTC phones probably don't appeal to you much anyway, but honestly I can't see the sense (sorry) in buying any single core phone at this point, why would you want to be stuck for the next year with a phone behind the curve of what developers are working with?

    Thanks again Slag02 for posting your comments, I feel better about my Best Buy pre-order every day
    05-20-2011 03:50 PM
  14. splmonster's Avatar
    Well for people who love Sense I think the new Qualcomm processor is more important than people are giving it credit, there's a LOT going on in Sense 3.0 from a graphical standpoint and that dual core/enhanced graphics silicon is what makes it silky smooth. If you're a straight AOSP person than HTC phones probably don't appeal to you much anyway, but honestly I can't see the sense (sorry) in buying any single core phone at this point, why would you want to be stuck for the next year with a phone behind the curve of what developers are working with?

    Thanks again Slag02 for posting your comments, I feel better about my Best Buy pre-order every day
    Currently a dual-core phone is not being fully utilized, nor is Android optimized for it. Won't be until Ice Cream hits. That was one of the things talked about at Google IO. So no problem getting a single-core phone, and the reason is you will not see any real world difference right now. Ice Cream probably will hit in Dec with the Nexus 3 first, then say a couple months after that the EVO 3D should have it. So if any users are wanting to pull the trigger on the Nexus S their is nothing wrong with that decision. Both phones in real world performance will both be smooth and fast. Devs are not working on dual-core yet, only because Android GB does not utilize dual-core technology, and IC SDK is not out there yet. So as it currently stands dual-core is the gimmick and will be until IC drops. The only thing beneficial of it is showing off benchmarks.
    05-20-2011 03:57 PM
  15. WatermelonSlim's Avatar
    I see. What can you do with the Evo 3D you cant with the Nexus S? Serious question because I was on the fence about the two. Only difference really is 3D obviously but its still brand new and not much out for it. There are 2 things the Nexus can do the 3D cant. Get official updates as soon as they are released and free hotspot/tethering. Dual core will be the next big thing soon, but its not a NEED right now. I have never been on my phone (Evo or Nexus S) and thought, wow I wish that opened faster. What in your mind gives the 3D a decided advantage? I dont care for Sense, I replaced it with Launcher Pro on my Evo
    The Evo 3D can tether also. And it will also have updates as soon as they are released (maybe not from Sprint- although the Evo has been pretty good about getting updates from Sprint).

    How can you seriously ask what it does than the Nexus doesn't, and then say not including the 3D and the faster processor? lol Those are 2 pretty major things to just skip over them.

    You may not care about device speed right now. But someday when you have a bunch of stuff running in the background a dual core will come in handy. And you might not care about 3D right now. But someday when you buy your next tv and it has 3D, you will probably wish those pictures and videos you took were in 3D.

    Me? I make no bones about it- I own a 3D tv already and absolutely want the 3D cameras on this phone, and I absolutely want the better processor and graphics too. I also want the MicroSD card slot, bigger battery, double the RAM, way better resolution screen, bigger screen, full HDMI out, better bluetooth, and better front camera.

    Seriously, these phones aren't even close. To try to act like they are is not being intellectually honest.
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    05-20-2011 04:05 PM
  16. garrettfarnum's Avatar
    I see. What can you do with the Evo 3D you cant with the Nexus S? Serious question because I was on the fence about the two. Only difference really is 3D obviously but its still brand new and not much out for it. There are 2 things the Nexus can do the 3D cant. Get official updates as soon as they are released and free hotspot/tethering. Dual core will be the next big thing soon, but its not a NEED right now. I have never been on my phone (Evo or Nexus S) and thought, wow I wish that opened faster. What in your mind gives the 3D a decided advantage? I dont care for Sense, I replaced it with Launcher Pro on my Evo
    Uh I don't know, maybe this thing called an SD card. They're pretty cool, but you wouldn't know. Also an LED notification light, and a beautiful display. So that's three things that are different, and those are pretty big reasons if you ask me.


    Sent from my (almost) HTC Evo 3D using Tapatalk
    05-20-2011 04:20 PM
  17. lookngood18's Avatar
    dont use the 3d video camera? thats nice ill just record the 1080p FULL HD. Even if you HATE 3D all you have to do is delete the 3d videos that the phone comes with and enjoy sprints fastest phone available.
    05-20-2011 04:22 PM
  18. splmonster's Avatar
    The Evo 3D can tether also. And it will also have updates as soon as they are released (maybe not from Sprint- although the Evo has been pretty good about getting updates from Sprint).

    How can you seriously ask what it does than the Nexus doesn't, and then say not including the 3D and the faster processor? lol Those are 2 pretty major things to just skip over them.

    You may not care about device speed right now. But someday when you have a bunch of stuff running in the background a dual core will come in handy. And you might not care about 3D right now. But someday when you buy your next tv and it has 3D, you will probably wish those pictures and videos you took were in 3D.

    Me? I make no bones about it- I own a 3D tv already and absolutely want the 3D cameras on this phone, and I absolutely want the better processor and graphics too. I also want the MicroSD card slot, bigger battery, double the RAM, way better resolution screen, bigger screen, full HDMI out, better bluetooth, and better front camera.

    Seriously, these phones aren't even close. To try to act like they are is not being intellectually honest.

    The EVO 3D will most certainly not receive updates when they are first released. No company gets that luxury, and only AOSP devices get that service. It will be at the least be 1 month wait for newer versions of Android. Also once again as my post stated, Android GB does not support dual-core threading in apps. So the dual-core will be useless until IC drops. The 3D thing is gimmicky, is on just about every electronic that has it. Just because the EVO 3D will have a bigger battery, that does not translate into better life. They are just making up for more demanding hardware. The EVO 3D will have a better resolution, but the screen won't come close to the quality of the Super AMOLED on the Nexus S. Better Bluetooth? What will the EVO 3D do on Bluetooth that the Nexus can't? Anything real world use? No! As for front facing cameras, I use plenty of them and a 1.3MP will not make the quality any better, it will make the screen bigger but that does not translate into better quality. I also want to point out just so everyone is aware.. 1080p video record will demand at least a class 10 SD card to run smoothly. Even 720p videos need at least a Class 6 for smooth recording. Look at the quality of the EVO 720p it's **** poor. My testing of the EVO 3D did not show huge improvements in this area, HTC is still using cheap camera parts and terrible software for it.
    05-20-2011 04:22 PM
  19. splmonster's Avatar
    Here is a video comparison of two dual-core devices vs the Nexus S. One being the Tegra 2 which is slighty slower then the Adreno 220 in the EVO 3D, and the Galaxy S2 which is faster then the EVO 3D with the 1.2GHz Samsung Exynos dual-core. The Nexus S showing loading a game at about the equal time of a S2. Both the Nexus S and S2 beating the Tegra 2 in loading game time.

    05-20-2011 04:37 PM
  20. WatermelonSlim's Avatar
    The EVO 3D will most certainly not receive updates when they are first released. No company gets that luxury, and only AOSP devices get that service. It will be at the least be 1 month wait for newer versions of Android. Also once again as my post stated, Android GB does not support dual-core threading in apps. So the dual-core will be useless until IC drops. The 3D thing is gimmicky, is on just about every electronic that has it. Just because the EVO 3D will have a bigger battery, that does not translate into better life. They are just making up for more demanding hardware. The EVO 3D will have a better resolution, but the screen won't come close to the quality of the Super AMOLED on the Nexus S. Better Bluetooth? What will the EVO 3D do on Bluetooth that the Nexus can't? Anything real world use? No! As for front facing cameras, I use plenty of them and a 1.3MP will not make the quality any better, it will make the screen bigger but that does not translate into better quality. I also want to point out just so everyone is aware.. 1080p video record will demand at least a class 10 SD card to run smoothly. Even 720p videos need at least a Class 6 for smooth recording. Look at the quality of the EVO 720p it's **** poor. My testing of the EVO 3D did not show huge improvements in this area, HTC is still using cheap camera parts and terrible software for it.
    1: The Evo 3D absolutely WILL get updates quickly. Again, the Evo got Froyo as soon as it was released so why would the Evo 3D be any different? And it doesn't matter anyway because the community has them ready before Sprint anyway.

    2: Why should I care if GB is optimized for dual core? The chip is still faster than the last gen chip on the Nexus S anyway. And it WILL be upgraded to Ice Cream Sandwich anyway, so it WILL be optimized for dual core.

    3: The higher resolution will make for a much better display, don't kid yourself.

    4: Yes, the bluetooth 3.0 is a better spec than 2.1. Right now, today, it is better. More data can be transferred, meaning better quality audio and possibly video someday. Especially when more things are using bluetooth (like the PS3 remote).

    5: 1.3 front camera is WAY better than a VGA camera, lol. Not even debatable.

    6: So what if you need a good sd card for 1080p video? lol, what a ridiculous statement. Guess what? You also need a 4G phone to use 4G! lol I'll take 1080p video, and I'll get a good sd card for it too.

    The bottom line is, the Evo 3D is a MUCH better phone than the Nexus S. And anyone telling you otherwise is lying to you.
    05-20-2011 05:21 PM
  21. splmonster's Avatar
    1: The Evo 3D absolutely WILL get updates quickly. Again, the Evo got Froyo as soon as it was released so why would the Evo 3D be any different? And it doesn't matter anyway because the community has them ready before Sprint anyway.

    2: Why should I care if GB is optimized for dual core? The chip is still faster than the last gen chip on the Nexus S anyway. And it WILL be upgraded to Ice Cream Sandwich anyway, so it WILL be optimized for dual core.

    3: The higher resolution will make for a much better display, don't kid yourself.

    4: Yes, the bluetooth 3.0 is a better spec than 2.1. Right now, today, it is better. More data can be transferred, meaning better quality audio and possibly video someday. Especially when more things are using bluetooth (like the PS3 remote).

    5: 1.3 front camera is WAY better than a VGA camera, lol. Not even debatable.

    6: So what if you need a good sd card for 1080p video? lol, what a ridiculous statement. Guess what? You also need a 4G phone to use 4G! lol I'll take 1080p video, and I'll get a good sd card for it too.

    The bottom line is, the Evo 3D is a MUCH better phone than the Nexus S. And anyone telling you otherwise is lying to you.
    If the EVO gets fast updates, where is GB?

    None of your points showed any valid proof of much. The EVO may of got Froyo, which was a month after it was released. Read my post again.. At least a month wait... Your correct it will get IC, but it won't be when the Nexus 3 releases with it. Could honestly care less about Bluetooth, I transfer everything using Wi-Fi. Your pretty dead wrong on the front facing camera debate, go ahead and do a little research and you will see. A 1.3MP will just give a bigger picture, not always better quality. The quality is in the sensor. Which HTC is notoriously known for using terrible ones for the cameras. I also never said the EVO 3D wasn't the better device, but you assumed that was being implied. I mentioned that anyone swaying the other direction was not making a poor decision. The EVO 3D as it stands will not utilize that dual-core and in real world performance between both devices you won't notice a difference. You will see it on benchmarks, but who cares about benchmark numbers. Those benchmarks are also inaccurate for dual-core being that the system itself isn't utilizing them properly. If your going by paper yes the EVO 3D is a better device. Except that Sense is still a hog on the memory, and when I tested it at CTIA it was bogging down in many areas. If your going by real-world performance you will never know which device is faster, unless your playing a game that demands over 60fps.

    Both devices are amazing, but the thing that kills it for me on these devices is no choice for using stock launcher. I personally don't like Sense because of it being as poorly optimized as Windows Vista. I would much rather use the stock AOSP launcher. I work with Android every single day of my life, it is apart of my job. I play with hundreds of devices, so i'm not going to be biased on one. Both are solid, but it will come down to preference. Also if you want to see a screen comparison between the EVO 3D and Nexus S, just search Atrix 4G vs Nexus S. The Atrix has the exact same display as the EVO 3D will. If i'm an every day consumer, I would be waiting for the Galaxy S2 which is supposed to come to Sprint this summer according to reports.
    05-20-2011 05:37 PM
  22. schnoid's Avatar
    Thanks for the review! I've had the Palm Pre for the last few years and recently upgraded to a used Evo and I love it! I've been debating whether to get the Nexus S or wait for the Evo 3D, and after seeing my friend's Nexus S, I'm actually pretty convinced that I want another Evo. No one has really mentioned the 4.3" screen, but that is a huge differentiator for me other than dual core. It doesn't seem like a huge size difference, but to me it seemed like night and day. I did like the Nexus S screen, but I expect the qHD display to look just as nice.

    At this point I think the only thing that can talk me out of getting a Evo 3D is if Samsung or Sprint suddenly announces that the Galaxy SII will be out shortly after.
    05-20-2011 05:40 PM
  23. splmonster's Avatar
    Thanks for the review! I've had the Palm Pre for the last few years and recently upgraded to a used Evo and I love it! I've been debating whether to get the Nexus S or wait for the Evo 3D, and after seeing my friend's Nexus S, I'm actually pretty convinced that I want another Evo. No one has really mentioned the 4.3" screen, but that is a huge differentiator for me other than dual core. It doesn't seem like a huge size difference, but to me it seemed like night and day. I did like the Nexus S screen, but I expect the qHD display to look just as nice.

    At this point I think the only thing that can talk me out of getting a Evo 3D is if Samsung or Sprint suddenly announces that the Galaxy SII will be out shortly after.
    This has the same display the EVO 3D will, qHD (540 x 960) S-LCD which is harder on the battery then AMOLED. By no means does that look just as nice.

    05-20-2011 05:46 PM
  24. FocusFreak's Avatar
    The Evo 3D can tether also. And it will also have updates as soon as they are released (maybe not from Sprint- although the Evo has been pretty good about getting updates from Sprint).

    How can you seriously ask what it does than the Nexus doesn't, and then say not including the 3D and the faster processor? lol Those are 2 pretty major things to just skip over them.
    Yes, the Evo 3D will be able to tether but it will cost you $30 a month whiles its FREE on the Nexus What makes you so sure the 3D will get updates right away, its a Sprint phone. Has anyone not on a custom ROM seen Gingerbread on their Evo 4G yet? Nope, and its been out nearly 6 months. If you think Sprint will be any faster updating the 3D, you will be disappointed. Sense 3.0 is even bigger and more complicated which will surely mean more time to wait for Sprint to update your new phone. Hell, the 3D will be running outdated software at launch...

    I skipped over 3D as a major thing because seriously, how many people have a 3DTV? I can tell you...4% of US households. Whats the point of shooting 3D photos and videos if you can only watch them on your phone and cant share them via MMS or even an upload online? That technology is still a ways off and thats IF it catches on. Playing a 3D game might be cool but I am not a gamer. The faster processor wont be a major advantage until ICS is released end of the year but by then, the new Nexus phone should be out with it first and with a dual core itself. Google has already said it will be optimized to work just as well on single core phones as well. So yea, I dont see a major advantage there unless you are going to start doing some heavy graphics or HD video editing on your cell phone...

    Nexus also has an NFC chip, the 3D does not. This feature will be much more useful than 3D photos will ever be to many users and its already starting to be used over on XDA for things like programmable settings.
    05-20-2011 06:09 PM
  25. splmonster's Avatar
    Yes, the Evo 3D will be able to tether but it will cost you $30 a month whiles its FREE on the Nexus What makes you so sure the 3D will get updates right away, its a Sprint phone. Has anyone not on a custom ROM seen Gingerbread on their Evo 4G yet? Nope, and its been out nearly 6 months. If you think Sprint will be any faster updating the 3D, you will be disappointed. Sense 3.0 is even bigger and more complicated which will surely mean more time to wait for Sprint to update your new phone. Hell, the 3D will be running outdated software at launch...

    I skipped over 3D as a major thing because seriously, how many people have a 3DTV? I can tell you...4% of US households. Whats the point of shooting 3D photos and videos if you can only watch them on your phone and cant share them via MMS or even an upload online? That technology is still a ways off and thats IF it catches on. Playing a 3D game might be cool but I am not a gamer. The faster processor wont be a major advantage until ICS is released end of the year but by then, the new Nexus phone should be out with it first and with a dual core itself. Google has already said it will be optimized to work just as well on single core phones as well. So yea, I dont see a major advantage there unless you are going to start doing some heavy graphics or HD video editing on your cell phone...

    Nexus also has an NFC chip, the 3D does not. This feature will be much more useful than 3D photos will ever be to many users and its already starting to be used over on XDA for things like programmable settings.
    Your points on Dual-core are dead on. I couldn't agree more. Heck one device I can say that doesn't show much difference with dual-core is my iPad 2, which didn't seem that much faster then my first one. Again because iOS is not utilized for full optimization of it. Same goes for Android.. It's not ready for it, and when the Nexus 3 drops I will be getting that.

    I agree.. NFC is an amazing technology. They also did some demoing of that at IO on a bunch of different things. They also were showing the Android Open Accessories. Which only work right now with the Nexus S or Nexus One I believe.

    http://www.androidcentral.com/about-...en-accessories

    Also to users thinking this will be a better camera. My testing showed not much of an improvement. This picture also does justice. Once again terrible in seeing objects in lower light, and grainy.

    http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-evo...rst-test-photo
    05-20-2011 06:14 PM
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