06-03-2010 01:14 AM
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  1. showmrock's Avatar
    The video rec quality just looks ok but the sound quality is worse than the KIN.....the KIN!!!!! Why????? Maybe there will be some miracle of a chance that the official releases will not have these issues but has anyone heard anything official regarding this?
    06-01-2010 03:27 AM
  2. Setite's Avatar
    Well its a phone . The key is to record under unwindy conditions, or use your hand to block the wind. I imagine some cases could even help. When I record indoors the audio quality is fine. Well, its as bad as I expected.
    06-01-2010 04:04 AM
  3. skullsdontfade's Avatar
    i was excited when i first heard "720p video recording". then i saw some recorded footage and was a little disappointed. but, afterall, it's a cellphone. in a few years, i'm sure photos and videos taken from phones will be fantastic. we're not there yet, and until then, i'm going to be satisfied. people can't expect to go out and shoot "planet earth" on their evo...
    06-01-2010 05:31 AM
  4. Runningwarrior08's Avatar
    i was excited when i first heard "720p video recording". then i saw some recorded footage and was a little disappointed. but, afterall, it's a cellphone. in a few years, i'm sure photos and videos taken from phones will be fantastic. we're not there yet, and until then, i'm going to be satisfied. people can't expect to go out and shoot "planet earth" on their evo...
    Awe, I was actually hoping to shoot the next 3D movie with it

    Honestly for me the camera is perfect, but then again I am the guy who only needs a camera to take pictures of things to sell online lol.
    06-01-2010 06:53 AM
  5. skullsdontfade's Avatar
    Awe, I was actually hoping to shoot the next 3D movie with it

    Honestly for me the camera is perfect, but then again I am the guy who only needs a camera to take pictures of things to sell online lol.
    exactly. no one should be using this as a substitute to a decent point and shoot or dslr. for me, it's for when i'm out and see something interesting and don't have a camera on me. for that, it's fine.
    06-01-2010 06:57 AM
  6. ataneja's Avatar
    exactly. no one should be using this as a substitute to a decent point and shoot or dslr. for me, it's for when i'm out and see something interesting and don't have a camera on me. for that, it's fine.
    I agree that it shouldn't substitute a full-fledged camcorder, ubut I thought at least as good or near the levels of a FlipHD or whatever it's called.
    06-01-2010 07:06 AM
  7. Runningwarrior08's Avatar
    Here is a pretty good video comparison of the Incredible vs Evo
    He did pretty much the same video with both phones at the same time in the same conditions..
    Evo-
    Incredible-
    06-01-2010 07:28 AM
  8. wphend00's Avatar
    All I can say is that the new Iphone's video quality will probably blow these guys away, just like the Nokia N8 already does... so the trick will be to get Android working on those 2 handsets, for me...
    Hopefully, the compression of the video is not being done on the chip, and if it is, perhaps it can be disabled, now that we have higher capacity SDHC cards available to us...
    06-01-2010 08:10 AM
  9. Fitz1015's Avatar
    Here is a pretty good video comparison of the Incredible vs Evo
    He did pretty much the same video with both phones at the same time in the same conditions..
    Evo-
    Incredible-


    the video on the EVO does not look too bad on this. could it be a issue that the SD card in the evo is only class 2 would it be better if as there was a class 4 or 6 in it?
    06-01-2010 08:16 AM
  10. Jerzey McNasty's Avatar
    records good enough for me
    06-01-2010 08:27 AM
  11. Chris5#WN's Avatar
    The EVO actually looks more colorful to me in the videos, the sky in-particular, but the guy reporting seems darker in the EVO video on the flip side which is weird compared to the Incredible ...

    Both are pixilated which is kinda annoying but thats compression for ya, def not crystal clear 720p thats for sure -
    06-01-2010 08:31 AM
  12. skullsdontfade's Avatar
    I agree that it shouldn't substitute a full-fledged camcorder, ubut I thought at least as good or near the levels of a FlipHD or whatever it's called.
    well, the FlipHD is a camcorder. it's meant to do its sole job better than a phone. i don't think i've seen any footage from a FlipHD so i don't know how the Evo compares to it.
    06-01-2010 08:44 AM
  13. Caitlyn McKenzie's Avatar
    Guys, the high compression on the video is almost undoubtedly because of bandwidth issues. They can't make the video record at a bitrate higher than your SD card can take. And since the slowest SD card out there is a Class 2 (Which is what the EVO comes with), they have to target that.
    06-01-2010 09:06 AM
  14. ataneja's Avatar
    well, the FlipHD is a camcorder. it's meant to do its sole job better than a phone. i don't think i've seen any footage from a FlipHD so i don't know how the Evo compares to it.
    Fair point, but they are saying it is HD recording...which looks highly suspect. I haven't seen the quality on FlipHD either, I've just seen people complain...which is to be expected with a new phone...

    Guys, the high compression on the video is almost undoubtedly because of bandwidth issues. They can't make the video record at a bitrate higher than your SD card can take. And since the slowest SD card out there is a Class 2 (Which is what the EVO comes with), they have to target that.
    I would like this to be true (and thus alleviated with a Class-6 card)...anyone have any samples with a higher class?
    06-01-2010 09:10 AM
  15. Caitlyn McKenzie's Avatar
    ataneja: It likely will not matter if used with a higher class SD card. I don't think there's any way for the phone to know what class the SD card is without doing some sort of write benchmark test on it. Thus, to avoid problems for those using Class 2, they would have to assume all SD cards are Class 2.
    fr4nk1yn likes this.
    06-01-2010 09:14 AM
  16. ataneja's Avatar
    Vincent Law: Do you think there could be an app to force it to recognize Class 6? Or is this likely more of a hardware limitation? Either way, minor gripe, the phone looks solid.
    06-01-2010 09:38 AM
  17. Caitlyn McKenzie's Avatar
    I have no idea if apps have the sort of access required to dictate to the hardware encoder what type of video they want out of it. It might be a limitation inside the hardware encoder as well. It's not a camera problem though (as the picture quality is fine, it's the compression for video that is the issue).
    06-01-2010 09:47 AM
  18. ataneja's Avatar
    Thanks so much for the non-condescending answers! This will be my first Android device, can't wait!
    06-01-2010 10:18 AM
  19. AmphibiousRodent's Avatar
    Looks pretty damn good to me as well...Have any of you played around with ReelDirector? Holy balls if that app came to the market id weep!
    06-01-2010 11:01 AM
  20. showmrock's Avatar
    I understand it's a cellphone but so is the Palm Pre and it records a higher quality sound. Were talking about a year old device that was never suppose to shoot video....and the audio is satisfactory. From the vids I've seen online I feel like HTC has taken a step backwards and that's what concerns me. It's hard to get my point across because the only devices that had decent vid were the Iphone and Pre....so if you didn't come from those devices you probably will approve of the EVOs quality
    06-01-2010 02:06 PM
  21. ataneja's Avatar
    I actually looked at the video quality of the Flip cameras (via youtube clips), and I can say that I am pretty satisfied with the Evo. Very promising. Can't wait till Friday!
    06-02-2010 11:36 PM
  22. fr4nk1yn's Avatar
    if the video bitrate is faster than the card it'll have dropped or duplicate frames.

    If HTC did stupidly adjust the bitrate to match a class 2 card perhaps somebody will come up with a hack to change this. Provided it's done in software.
    06-02-2010 11:47 PM
  23. hloz89's Avatar
    I actually looked at the video quality of the Flip cameras (via youtube clips), and I can say that I am pretty satisfied with the Evo. Very promising. Can't wait till Friday!
    agreed!
    06-03-2010 12:01 AM
  24. Night Train's Avatar
    The video rec quality just looks ok but the sound quality is worse than the KIN.....the KIN!!!!! Why????? Maybe there will be some miracle of a chance that the official releases will not have these issues but has anyone heard anything official regarding this?
    Please...

    If you want top-flight video...get one of these and quit bellyaching...

    06-03-2010 12:10 AM
  25. tibbys's Avatar
    It's a cellphone afterall, will definitely do well for some on-the-go moments, or even some drunken moments Hehe looks pretty good to me!
    06-03-2010 12:13 AM
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