08-03-2010 04:10 PM
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  1. igotsanevo4g's Avatar
    What do you think will be different in the OTA update that wasn't in the manual update already? Nothing? Bug fixes? A multitude of other awesome things?

    You tell me

    Oh and P.S. This is just because im curious on what everyone has in mind, nothing else.
    08-01-2010 11:45 PM
  2. gregg37's Avatar
    Absolutely nothing. I think this leaked manual one was the final one put up for final testing. Perhaps a tiny unnoticable bug tweak or two but nothing any of us would see.
    08-02-2010 12:48 AM
  3. myxmastrmike's Avatar
    Im hoping for a fix for the sms alert in your ear while in a call issue...
    08-02-2010 01:03 AM
  4. reagan247's Avatar
    Well, I'm sure if anything that'll be different it would probably be battery tweaks. I mean, that seems to be something that would be the highest priority for HTC so that they wouldn't have to create a later update if improvements were made.
    08-02-2010 01:03 AM
  5. igotsanevo4g's Avatar
    I'm hopeing that they fix the bug that doesn't allow picture messages to be received while wi fi is enabled.
    08-02-2010 01:40 AM
  6. Rhoq's Avatar
    Let's say that the manual update (.3) wasn't the final release. The OTA will surely have a different version number. Since the manual update would then be unofficial leak, would our Evos still see the OTA update out there in the stream? I only ask because coming from the world of BlackBerry, if you weren't running an official release your device wouldn't see a new OTA update on Sprint's network (you would have to update manually).
    08-02-2010 07:52 AM
  7. reagan247's Avatar
    This is the best way of putting it, so I don't have to copy and paste... But please remember, there is a SEARCH function on all these forums and 10 out of 10 times, it's so much easier - and faster - to find an answer than waiting on it.

    You should be able to just upgrade since the file leaked does not require you to root... The file release was the Sprint/HTC file and does exactly what you have to do when the OTA hits your phone.

    I posted this before but you have to think about it.... When the EVO hit the market on June 4 there was an update pushed out to the phone that slightly changed the build number and then on 6.28 they released and then pulled back an update that was rumored to brick some phones. They made a few minor changes and released it again on 6.29.

    The build that some people got was 3.25.651.1 and the build I have is 3.26.651.3.... Seems people who jumped on the upgrade earlier in the day got the one build and people like me who downloaded the file around 5 or 6 pm got the "Latest" build....

    What "SHOULD" happen once a build is finished is you will do a search for the latest software and if the change is 3.26.651.5 your phone should just upgrade and make the proper adjustments... What ever Sprint releases I am about 99% certain 3.26.651.3 will NOT be the latest and greatest version a month or two from now. They will make adjustments as complaints come in and you will get notifications for minor changes... Right now it's a bigger change going from 2.1 to 2.2......

    I think the build that we are using was a prerelease meant to go to probably Sprint Employees and a select group of people to test and give Sprint a few days to make adjustments to it before August 3rd mass release. One of those Employees or Beta testers obviously posted and leaked the build and once it hits a forum like this and many of the others it spread like wildfire and HTC and Sprint pulled the site that was hosting the build because they didn't want us to have it yet....
    Source:http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-...tml#post260351
    08-02-2010 08:18 AM
  8. maverick96's Avatar
    I'm hopeing that they fix the bug that doesn't allow picture messages to be received while wi fi is enabled.
    Wow this is horrible...Is this currently a bug with 2.2???
    08-02-2010 08:48 AM
  9. eagle63's Avatar
    The way in which this whole Froyo-Evo release thing has been handled is very interesting. I find it incredibly hard to believe that there are code changes happening between friday and tomorrow - normally you are well into a code-freeze by the time you are 4 days away from releasing.
    The fact that they announced it on Friday, but declared the actual release date to be Tuesday is also weird. If it's ready to go, why wait the arbitrary 4 days? To finish testing? If you're still testing, why announce a release date at all - what if you DO find a last minute bug?

    All very odd...
    08-02-2010 09:04 AM
  10. daving313's Avatar
    Absolutely nothing. At most the way it is packaged for mass-push out delivery.
    08-02-2010 09:06 AM
  11. androidvirgin's Avatar
    Im hoping for a fix for the sms alert in your ear while in a call issue...
    must be your settings. mine is silent when receiving an SMS during an active call, even while on bluetooth.
    08-02-2010 09:16 AM
  12. SNAFU's Avatar
    The way in which this whole Froyo-Evo release thing has been handled is very interesting. I find it incredibly hard to believe that there are code changes happening between friday and tomorrow - normally you are well into a code-freeze by the time you are 4 days away from releasing.
    The fact that they announced it on Friday, but declared the actual release date to be Tuesday is also weird. If it's ready to go, why wait the arbitrary 4 days? To finish testing? If you're still testing, why announce a release date at all - what if you DO find a last minute bug?

    All very odd...
    And we know the leaked version was actually released to the beta testers on Friday how?

    For all we know the .3 build could be month(s) old.
    08-02-2010 11:26 AM
  13. myxmastrmike's Avatar
    must be your settings. mine is silent when receiving an SMS during an active call, even while on bluetooth.
    Hmm... weird. Im not the only person to experience this... and there doesnt seem to be anything in the settings reguarding "in-call alerts" or the like :/
    08-02-2010 11:34 AM
  14. solo1's Avatar
    Hmm... weird. Im not the only person to experience this... and there doesnt seem to be anything in the settings reguarding "in-call alerts" or the like :/
    what sms are you using
    08-02-2010 11:39 AM
  15. saywut's Avatar
    Im still new to Android but I would like to see a better job of managing applications running in the background. Applications continue to start without even opening them and others stay open when you think you close them.

    I find myself using ATK all day long. Wondering how applications started and i never even used them.
    08-02-2010 12:07 PM
  16. DougB541#CB's Avatar
    Question.

    Is your phone being slow when these apps are open?

    If the answer is no, stop worrying about them. A lot of them are just background services that aren't really hindering the phone usage.
    08-02-2010 12:41 PM
  17. saywut's Avatar
    To answer your question, YES.......and NO. The problem is How do you know that an application is just running a service vs. running as an app?

    I get slow downs from ime to time and say, ok let me ATK. Well, 22 apps have just been "murdered" and have no idea what was causing the most lag.

    If I am not using an app such as "QIK" or "Amazon Mp3", why is it running? it doesnt need location updates if its not on?

    Of course "service-driven" apps such as GTalk, Gmail, ect.....should always run but c'mon at least let me mangae what comes on at power up.
    08-02-2010 12:54 PM
  18. igotsanevo4g's Avatar
    Settings-applications-manage-force stop. :-)
    08-02-2010 01:43 PM
  19. eldub1's Avatar
    I'm thinking our 4g teathering will go bye bye.
    08-02-2010 01:47 PM
  20. cloak.n.dagger's Avatar
    Some are reporting choppy video playback with the "leaked" Froyo update...

    http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-...ack-froyo.html

    This may be why Sprint has pushed back the update release date...

    http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-...y-aint-so.html
    08-02-2010 02:02 PM
  21. eagle63's Avatar
    To answer your question, YES.......and NO. The problem is How do you know that an application is just running a service vs. running as an app?

    I get slow downs from ime to time and say, ok let me ATK. Well, 22 apps have just been "murdered" and have no idea what was causing the most lag.

    If I am not using an app such as "QIK" or "Amazon Mp3", why is it running? it doesnt need location updates if its not on?

    Of course "service-driven" apps such as GTalk, Gmail, ect.....should always run but c'mon at least let me mangae what comes on at power up.
    But how can you be sure that any of those background services/apps were even causing your slowdown?? I've found performance on my Evo to be incredibly consistent regardless of how long it's been between reboots. I don't kill or manage apps/services. I trust Android to do that for me and it does it pretty darn well. I would strongly recommend against using ATK, but obviously knock yourself out (literally?) if you want to.

    Have you read this yet : Android Developers Blog: Multitasking the Android Way
    08-02-2010 02:05 PM
  22. mfeigley's Avatar
    To answer your question, YES.......and NO. The problem is How do you know that an application is just running a service vs. running as an app?

    I get slow downs from ime to time and say, ok let me ATK. Well, 22 apps have just been "murdered" and have no idea what was causing the most lag.

    If I am not using an app such as "QIK" or "Amazon Mp3", why is it running? it doesnt need location updates if its not on?

    Of course "service-driven" apps such as GTalk, Gmail, ect.....should always run but c'mon at least let me mangae what comes on at power up.
    Amazon mp3 is just going to stay in the memory. Don't worry about it. It doesn't actually do anything in terms of using resources. Go into qik settings and set video mail sync to only on app launch. After that qik will just stay in the memory, not using resources. If you don't use Latitude, then go into maps and disable it. If it is enabled it will constantly use gps and hurt performance. You shouldn't have to use a task killer at all. Those apps, as long as they aren't set to polling, are just in the memory, not running, not using any resources.

    All that said, froyo does provide performance enhancements, and I am seeing my free memory twice as high as before froyo. Amazon mp3 and qik will still automatically launch in your memory, but killing them will just cause more work for your phone, since it will have to put them back into your memory. My advice is to uninstall the task killer and not worry about the programs in memory. If your phone slows down, maybe try a reboot and that should speed it back up. It shouldn't happen too often, especially with froyo.
    08-02-2010 02:20 PM
  23. PM-Performance's Avatar
    Does anyone know what is causing the partial wake locks then? This is the only thing I can think that is causing the batt life to go to **** again.
    i see high partial wake locks and see apps showing in background that never were before unless I launched them in 2.1
    08-02-2010 02:40 PM
  24. Robbie317's Avatar
    What do you think will be different in the OTA update that wasn't in the manual update already? Nothing? Bug fixes? A multitude of other awesome things?

    You tell me

    Oh and P.S. This is just because im curious on what everyone has in mind, nothing else.
    I think some people are expecting a totally new OS which is not the case. The tweaks from 2.1 to 2.2 are minor. The biggest change are in performance... Overall benchmarks are greatly improved and you will get full Flash support instead of flash light. To the Naked eye your not going to notice any major differences. With Sense layered over top of the OS 2.1 and 2.2 look and act exactly the same.

    Other minor upgrades are the ability (once developers upgrade their Apps) to move your Apps to the SD card, you get a flash light App built in (I downloaded the incredible flash light app the first week I had the EVO) The camera is slightly better when your using the auto ISO settings but you still get 100x better pictures if you manually adjust the ISO settings to your lighting (The higher the ISO for darker settings and lower ISO in bright lit rooms/area's)

    The leaked ROM on Friday is damn close to the final build... Sprint and HTC can say it what they want but from Friday to Tuesday there isn't a whole lot they could change... They were probably 90% comfortable with that ROM and released it to some beta testers who obviously leaked it to the masses... Any tweaks between Friday and Tuesday are going to be minor.

    I think the average everyday user is going to feel like it was much to do about nothing because again with Sense it looks and feels just like the 2.1 OS your using now. They always tweak the OS but this particular release had enough changes to justify 2.2 vs 2.1..... Gingerbread or 3.0 (or what ever the final build ends up being) will be a major change that you will notice right away...

    Link to Android 2.2 and what to expect.. Even Google calls it a MINOR update..

    http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2.html
    08-02-2010 02:48 PM
  25. Robbie317's Avatar
    And we know the leaked version was actually released to the beta testers on Friday how?

    For all we know the .3 build could be month(s) old.
    On Friday the Sprint support page listed the .3 build as the latest and greatest version... Once it got leaked HTC pulled it from their server and it magically disappeared from Sprints support page as well.

    Also some people early in the day got .1 and some of us who downloaded later in the day got .3.... The final build might be .5 or .7 or .9 who knows.... As stable as the .3 build is my guess (again IMO) the .3 was a very close final build and was meant for Beta testing by a select group of probably employees and developers.... Then some one leaked the site to download....

    Also it couldn't be MONTHS old since Google didn't release 2.2 to any one Late May Early June if I am not mistaken..... Before that it was only Google and the Nexus One....
    08-02-2010 02:57 PM
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