1. beezy's Avatar
    In a effort to keep the gumbo rom threads for people needing help post anything pertaining to gbhil not developing gumbo roms here.
    03-06-2010 10:29 PM
  2. 702DROID's Avatar
    its a shame hopefully he cant stay away long
    03-06-2010 10:35 PM
  3. sparda07's Avatar
    Thanks GbHil if it weren't for you i would have never even Bothered to Root My Hero and try the custom Roms. Its sad to hear about what happened and i wish that you didn't leave like this but if its the only option right now i understand. I'm glad you won't be quiting all together but angry that its happened at all.

    Thanks so much for all your help.
    03-06-2010 10:49 PM
  4. Darkshneider's Avatar
    Respect. Maybe hell reconsider.

    Gbhil,theyre missing you on XDA too.
    03-06-2010 10:51 PM
  5. watzone69's Avatar
    I know how difficult it is to decide to stop developing a ROM. I'm sure that I echo the feelings of every fellow fan of your kernel and ROMs when I say that I totally respect your decision.

    It's a shame that it has come to this. I hope that when the next big phone comes out (Supersonic?) that you will be developing for it.

    Until then, thank you and take care,
    Mike
    03-06-2010 11:03 PM
  6. funcrusher's Avatar
    Everyone loves you, man! Your work is amazing and you're always so helpful and courteous. Muchluv.
    03-06-2010 11:10 PM
  7. joetemp75's Avatar
    Hope to see you come back
    03-06-2010 11:43 PM
  8. Andrew Ruffolo's Avatar
    wow. Not what I expected. Thanks for the support guys. And remember - there's no reason anyone can't pick up where I left off. It's really not as difficult as it seems, and I'm always open to share ideas and suggestions.
    Seriously, this shocks you? This isn't precentral.net, there are nice people here (although someone did tarnish your name either here or from XDA) You are and always will be the best! I'm really going to be hurting when 2.1 rolls out and you're not around to have a sweet ROM available. :/ I may just unroot my phone now. No use in running something that won't have support. You will be greatly missed. You really are a stand up guy Gb.
    03-07-2010 01:03 AM
  9. Jerry Hildenbrand's Avatar
    Thanks guys. You can't get rid of me that easy though

    What this does is give me time to work more on the How-To side of things, which to me is more important in the long run anyway. I know one of you will be able to use what we started here and take it to the next level. There's still plenty of great ROM cookers out there.
    03-07-2010 01:05 AM
  10. Andrew Ruffolo's Avatar
    I have to agree with Kratos313 though... I didn't try rooting until that lovely how-to came out. I knew how to... I just didn't realize exactly what every line meant, and the break down of everything was more reassuring. Plus, I knew I could do it on my mac, but I like doing things like that from windows as I'm actually more familiar with windows than MacOSX terminal.
    03-07-2010 01:13 AM
  11. beezy's Avatar
    Thanks guys. You can't get rid of me that easy though

    What this does is give me time to work more on the How-To side of things, which to me is more important in the long run anyway. I know one of you will be able to use what we started here and take it to the next level. There's still plenty of great ROM cookers out there.
    If you tell me everything you know I sure would take it to next level. One if these days ill figure out everything..hopefully..
    03-07-2010 01:52 AM
  12. jjjjayd13's Avatar
    GB stay strong!!!

    You 'REALLY' did bring some GREAT work to the ANDRIOD community, please do not forget that!

    We all have 'haters' that don't have a life. Since the developer 'understood' after you explained matters to him, please push ahead.

    One rotten apple (or2) should not 'steal' your joy.

    Stay Strong,

    jjjjayd13,
    03-07-2010 07:04 AM
  13. Spork1673's Avatar
    gbhil you have showed a lot on tweaking a rom etc etc it sucks you are stepping out for a bit but i understand
    03-07-2010 08:03 AM
  14. Jedis#AC's Avatar
    This is a big hit for the ROM community as a whole.

    Gbhil: too many people have come to rely on your work. Your kernels are used by just about every ROM out there. When I'm looking for a ROM to use, if it doesn't say 'Gbhil' on it, I move on to the next one.

    I seriously hope you reconsider. You are too great of a loss for the community to not have you working on developing the next best thing. Don't let some misguided individual keep you from helping thousands of people. You're punishing the wrong people by going that route.

    If I may ask, were you threatened, by the makers of the software, with a lawsuit? Surely they can understand it's too easy to take someone else's work and slap their name/someone else's name on it and release it. They should have done more investigative work to determine if it was actually released by you. In fact, they should never have contacted you to begin with - they should have contacted whomever released the ROM. Anyone that's worth half their weight in the Android community knows you release kernels and build custom roms -- and have never once included a paid app.

    I plead with you to reconsider.
    03-07-2010 08:07 AM
  15. ejqr5's Avatar
    I can understand your decision Gb and I respect it 100%. I really appreciate all the work you have done and I know there are many others that appreciate it too.
    03-07-2010 02:02 PM
  16. Jerry Hildenbrand's Avatar
    Thanks again guys. This really isn't necessary, but it's appreciated

    If you tell me everything you know I sure would take it to next level. One if these days ill figure out everything..hopefully..
    And that's the good that can come out of this mess. I'm trying to figure out the best format for a multi-part FAQ detailing the process of building your own kernel from source, and customizing it into a boot image, starting from scratch. I think there is a need to have something like that, and doing things this way will lead to a better variety and better results.

    This is a big hit for the ROM community as a whole.

    Gbhil: too many people have come to rely on your work. Your kernels are used by just about every ROM out there. When I'm looking for a ROM to use, if it doesn't say 'Gbhil' on it, I move on to the next one.

    I seriously hope you reconsider. You are too great of a loss for the community to not have you working on developing the next best thing. Don't let some misguided individual keep you from helping thousands of people. You're punishing the wrong people by going that route.

    If I may ask, were you threatened, by the makers of the software, with a lawsuit? Surely they can understand it's too easy to take someone else's work and slap their name/someone else's name on it and release it. They should have done more investigative work to determine if it was actually released by you. In fact, they should never have contacted you to begin with - they should have contacted whomever released the ROM. Anyone that's worth half their weight in the Android community knows you release kernels and build custom roms -- and have never once included a paid app.

    I plead with you to reconsider.
    To clear things up a bit -
    I got an email asking me to remove some software from my ROM. Software that I never put in my ROM.

    I shoot an email back saying I wasn't exactly sure what the issues were, as I didn't put anything of the sort in my ROM. Since this was a legitimate request from a legit individual, I included my Google voice number and asked the fellow to give me a call so we could clear things up.

    A while later I got a call from him, and we talked about what was going on. He pointed me towards a website that was in Cyrillic, but with an English link to Gumbo 1.5. That link was to a file that didn't know existed, at a site that I never knew existed. The file in question was the stripped version of my 1.5c Bare rom, but with full versions of some of the most expensive applications in the 1.5 marketplace, several paid home replacements, and the donate versions of some free software. On the download page was a ~250 MB zip file with almost all paid themes from the market as well. I try to make myself easy to get in contact with, so a quick search by the fellow who contacted me led him to my email address based on the name of the ROM.

    Everything is fine between the dev and myself. There were no threats, and we quickly got on the same page. The developer thanked me for taking the time to talk with him, I thanked him for making an application that everyone loves, and we parted ways. I do believe he was going to fill out a trouble ticket with the host supplying the rom to try to get it pulled.

    If you knew me, you would realize that this is unacceptable. You know that guy at your local community college, with the scruffy beard who is always pecking away at his laptop? Yeah that weird guy. That's me. I have very strong beliefs as far as open source software and free sharing of information. A situation like this only leads people away from the idea of open source. Free software doesn't mean stolen software, and it's a shame that we have to fight to keep people from thinking it does. I just don't want my name attached to garbage like this again.

    Since it's hard enough to find any information about things like this, I think my time is best spent sharing what I know and what I've learned so anyone with the desire can re-create it for themselves. Doing it this way allows me to continue the free sharing of information that I believe in without having to feel/be responsible for what other do with it, gives us all an opportunity to learn together, and gives anyone the satisfaction of knowing they did it themselves.
    03-07-2010 02:09 PM
  17. Darkshneider's Avatar
    Hey man, if you noobify the "How-to" enough, Ill give it a whack and try and make my own ObmuG© ROM or kernel. Hopefully itll be Gbhil aproved .
    03-07-2010 02:26 PM
  18. TreyDaPrince's Avatar
    Gbhil, you're my dude. My go to guy. Kinda like what Crucial Xtreme is to Crackberry.

    BTW: Still lookin for that Hero you "lost" in Bmore/DC. =)

    Keep doin you!
    03-07-2010 03:03 PM
  19. Darkshneider's Avatar
    Wow, they almost did Flipz and his new release... TWICE! People are just being retarded this weekend.

    Flipz asked donors not to release or share the new 2.1 ROM until he made it public and today, 2 people were already uploading and sharing ROMs based off the new .29 kernel.
    03-07-2010 05:38 PM
  20. Darkshneider's Avatar
    Well apparently, Toast will also leave the scene.

    Edit: we almost did. Some guy was gonna release a Fresh 2.0 based ROM, the thing is that Flipz (Fresh dev) asked for early beta testers not to release his work before him, lo and behold, a guy was already uploading it. Toast got mad and said he was quitting, but then he came and said that he wouldnt leave "his boyz".
    03-07-2010 05:51 PM
  21. Jerry Hildenbrand's Avatar
    Gbhil, you're my dude. My go to guy. Kinda like what Crucial Xtreme is to Crackberry.

    BTW: Still lookin for that Hero you "lost" in Bmore/DC. =)

    Keep doin you!
    Heh. Thanks man. If you find that dude in Bmo use your armed forces skills to get my stuff back lol.

    Believe it or not, that was a blessing. Because of it my wife talked me into just selling off my little business and staying closer to home. I managed to sell it off to someone who has been interested in a while a week before the Toyota recall crap came up and made it an even bigger headache that nobody would want

    Wow, they almost did Flipz and his new release... TWICE! People are just being retarded this weekend.

    Flipz asked donors not to release or share the new 2.1 ROM until he made it public and today, 2 people were already uploading and sharing ROMs based off the new .29 kernel.
    Well apparently, Toast will also leave the scene.

    Edit: we almost did. Some guy was gonna release a Fresh 2.0 based ROM, the thing is that Flipz (Fresh dev) asked for early beta testers not to release his work before him, lo and behold, a guy was already uploading it. Toast got mad and said he was quitting, but then he came and said that he wouldnt leave "his boyz".
    Personally, I like open beta testing once i know something will flash, so I'm not into the "only certain people get to download" thing. But Flipz ain't me People should have respected his wishes. He needs to only release bug fixes via email until he's finished so he has some control over what goes out...that'll fix em lol.

    And it looks like the Hero dev community is starting to turn into the G1 community. That's a shame. I'm on another xda break, that place drives me crazy lol.
    03-07-2010 08:24 PM
  22. krispuniq's Avatar
    I'm on another xda break, that place drives me crazy lol.
    LOL !!! it sure does...

    I have always used ur ROMS & kernels on my Hero, and really wud miss u lots and lots Gbhil ! I have never posted coz i never found any problems wid ur ROM ... now is the real problem.. u r going, so i jus registered to say thank you and miss u !!!

    I hope u ll be back stronger :rolleyes:
    03-07-2010 10:05 PM
  23. Acelx's Avatar
    I think the whole closed beta thing is what really mess things up.. Just because they donated dont mean they should get the rom first. They could have attentions on messing your whole rep up. If its a senior member of the site and he or she have donated to the site should get the rom.. I know not all of us can dev roms. but at least those that show respect to the devs
    03-08-2010 12:13 AM
  24. ironnikki's Avatar
    Sorry to hear about this, gbhil. Your ROM was the only one that was able to convince my phone to run at a useable speed for a long period of time. I was really looking forward to what you would do after the update. Still, I respect your decision, and am very grateful that you've decided to take the time to write up a how-to for all of those would-be kernel devs. If I had time, I'd be very interested in working on something like this myself.
    03-09-2010 05:49 PM
  25. TylerLannan#AC's Avatar
    Weird... I just posted to this thread but it's not showing up. Anyway I just wanted to drop a line and say thanks for all your hard work and continuing efforts gbhil. Without all your tutorials and very easy to read explanations of how this stuff works I wouldn't know half of the stuff about android that I do today. Thank you so much! Btw gumbo ROM is the only ROM that I love and I use your kernels too
    03-11-2010 11:23 AM
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