1. jrdatrackstar1223's Avatar
    Is it really that much faster to where you won't notice that you have a 528MHz processor and that it's slow as heck wheb doing two things at once (like listening to music or browsing online)? Now that Palm is a about to be bought out, my gf and I h have considered getting her a Hero and adding her onto my plan and swirching out the Pre with her because she needs a phone with a keyboard. Does it fix the typing lag, phone lag, hang-ups....little stuf like that?
    04-12-2010 02:34 PM
  2. voghan's Avatar
    I have noticed an improvement in my phone on 2.1 but I'm running a custom rom. I'm not sure you'll get as large of a boost from the Sprint 2.1 release. I was originally planning on getting a nexus one or evo when they came to Sprint. Now I'm staying with my hero.
    04-12-2010 05:43 PM
  3. Andrew Ruffolo's Avatar
    Doing the option C definately gets rid of the typing lag on the keyboard. I don't get any force closes with it either. The Hero is kinda coming to the end of its lifespan for being sold, making it either a really cheap good device (if you root, but the stock 2.1 ROM is decent, too), or outdated. One other thing, The hero is kinda limited by internal space. Apps2SD fixes this issue, but needs root access
    04-12-2010 05:48 PM
  4. Jerry Hildenbrand's Avatar
    Read these links
    http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-...d-version.html

    http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-...droid-how.html

    Then, look here
    http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-...-rom-1-5c.html
    This will give you a phone that looks and acts like stock, except it's fast as hell.

    http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-...-2-1-leak.html
    This will give you a "preview" of 2.1, and as rufflez says, option 3 is also fast as hell.

    If you decide to dig in, just holler if you have any questions or need help.
    04-12-2010 06:42 PM
  5. Th3Cap3's Avatar
    I rooted and flashed my phone with the new DamageControl v2.07 from damageless, it is so much faster then my old stock 1.5 and the live wallpapers on sense is a very nice touch :-)
    04-12-2010 07:14 PM
  6. jrdatrackstar1223's Avatar
    well....it looks we aren't getting her on my plan because I was under the impression that we could add her for the 9.99. Regardless, I will take all your replies in consideration as I might still sell my Pre until I cam upgrade to the Evo. The biggest reason I might stay away from the Hero and Evo (or any other HTC device) is because they don't have GPU's for games and stuff.
    04-12-2010 07:17 PM
  7. voghan's Avatar
    Um, I play games on my hero. Not 3d games but casual games. I have a 360 for real games.
    04-12-2010 07:50 PM
  8. jrdatrackstar1223's Avatar
    yea...well the Pre can play Call of Duty looking and feeling games with online multiplayer so the Hero never will do this. Yes, I have a system dedicated to real-time 3D gaming, but the fact that it's on a phone is game changing and just plain fun; I an just whip out my phone and just start playing online instead ofluging around a big system.

    Not only that, but the GPU handles smoother transitions between menus and stuff and takes a load off the battery and the phone's CPU (and make it less laggy...like the Hero is). To me, Snapdragon means nothing because even though it will run faster, it will still have a limit as to what it can do. Look at the Nexus One..it still lagged sometimes when trying to handle more than one task even WITH a Snapdragon.
    04-12-2010 08:31 PM
  9. AndroidFanatic84's Avatar
    Read these links
    http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-...d-version.html

    http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-...droid-how.html

    Then, look here
    http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-...-rom-1-5c.html
    This will give you a phone that looks and acts like stock, except it's fast as hell.

    http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-...-2-1-leak.html
    This will give you a "preview" of 2.1, and as rufflez says, option 3 is also fast as hell.

    If you decide to dig in, just holler if you have any questions or need help.

    Hey question, I loaded the 2.1 onto my Hero before the option was posted to load it like i guess a rom or w/e....is there anyway I can downgrade or am I stuck now?
    04-13-2010 08:28 AM
  10. Andrew Ruffolo's Avatar
    I play 3d games on my hero just fine.
    Homerun Battle 3D looks normal. No problems with lag, no problems with cutting out. We get higher frames per second than the Moto Droid (43 vs 30) on average after our respective 2.1 updates.
    04-13-2010 08:42 AM
  11. aggreyj's Avatar
    Not only that, but the GPU handles smoother transitions between menus and stuff and takes a load off the battery and the phone's CPU (and make it less laggy...like the Hero is). To me, Snapdragon means nothing because even though it will run faster, it will still have a limit as to what it can do. Look at the Nexus One..it still lagged sometimes when trying to handle more than one task even WITH a Snapdragon.
    The Palm Pre's still isn't using the GPU to do anything like that. It's ironic that anyone with a Palm Pre would say that there is smooth transitions between menus or opening anything. I also highly doubt that the GPU is doing anything to explicitly save battery.

    It sounds like you're asking the questions but you really want to keep your Pre. If the 3D games on your Pre are that importnat then maybe you shouldn't switch. I just switched from the Pre to the Hero last week and I love it.
    04-13-2010 09:02 AM
  12. jrdatrackstar1223's Avatar
    do you use the 2.1 custom roms?
    04-13-2010 11:42 AM
  13. aggreyj's Avatar
    Currently running DamageControl 2.07. I bounced around between DamageControl, Gumbo 1.5c & Fresh.
    04-13-2010 11:53 AM
  14. jrdatrackstar1223's Avatar
    Wellll I may just pick up a hero after I find out what is going to happen Palm if it is really as fast as people say. I am also worried about the support for the Hero since the Eris is out the window now. I love both devices (tested both for a couple of weeks), but the Pre is just so much faster for right now, especially being overclocked. Even without the overclock, I can at least listen to music and browse online without thehone freezing on me, or I an reply to a text message and the keyboard be so far behind my typing the it was ridiculous.

    I know you said that you had a Pre before the Hero.....is it comparable to the Pre? If I can find a Hero for cheap enough, I may keep the Pre and get a Hero if I see enoughisitive reviews about 2.1....if it ever comes out. That's the other reason I roll with the Pre.....updates (no matter how small) come out every month.
    04-13-2010 12:21 PM
  15. Andrew Ruffolo's Avatar
    Wellll I may just pick up a hero after I find out what is going to happen Palm if it is really as fast as people say. I am also worried about the support for the Hero since the Eris is out the window now. I love both devices (tested both for a couple of weeks), but the Pre is just so much faster for right now, especially being overclocked. Even without the overclock, I can at least listen to music and browse online without thehone freezing on me, or I an reply to a text message and the keyboard be so far behind my typing the it was ridiculous.

    I know you said that you had a Pre before the Hero.....is it comparable to the Pre? If I can find a Hero for cheap enough, I may keep the Pre and get a Hero if I see enoughisitive reviews about 2.1....if it ever comes out. That's the other reason I roll with the Pre.....updates (no matter how small) come out every month.
    right now, my phone blows away the pre... but that was before any of the overclocking business started. I had the pre for 5 months, and now have had the hero for about the same time frame. I'm personally happier with the hero and I've never had a problem listening to music and browsing the web at the same time. The keyboard was laggy (but isn't now). I'd check it out post 2.1 if you can and see if the keyboard is too laggy for you then. I'm running on a custom ROM with a custom kernal with high memory available settings that dicipate any lag... for anything, keyboard, loading up programs (which it does much faster than a stock pre). There is only 1 thing i miss from the pre... the flash on the camera. But i can live without it until the evo comes out.
    04-13-2010 03:48 PM
  16. Djblue's Avatar
    yes all the things you asked about are so much faster on the latest fresh rom with the 2.1 leak for me
    04-13-2010 07:07 PM
  17. AndroidFanatic84's Avatar
    I asked a question and nobody responded, lets try this again. I flashed my phone with the sprint 2.1 leak prior to the other option was around where I could revert back from it...My question is am I now stuck with 2.1 or is there anyway I can flash back to a different rom?
    04-13-2010 09:20 PM
  18. wolf1989#AC's Avatar
    I asked a question and nobody responded, lets try this again. I flashed my phone with the sprint 2.1 leak prior to the other option was around where I could revert back from it...My question is am I now stuck with 2.1 or is there anyway I can flash back to a different rom?
    Here you go.
    http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-...g-2-1-ruu.html

    I'm using the Damage Control 2.0 and my keyboard reaaaaally lags.
    04-14-2010 02:25 AM
  19. KSmithInNY's Avatar
    Wolf you should check out DamageControl 2.07.2 Thats what i'm using and have no lag at all so far (fingers crossed)
    04-14-2010 09:43 AM
  20. oluvinu's Avatar
    Hello
    I have the hero with the 2.1 update with gumbo rom.
    Turtles helped me out a lot and thx!!!

    Question:
    1- how do I get apps2s?? And info on all it can do??

    2- where can I get live wallpapers?? And can it run correctly on this custom Rom option 3 with gumbo??

    3- how do I remove the.sprint apps I don't use??

    Thank you for any help you can provide.
    04-17-2010 08:43 AM
  21. ElAguila's Avatar
    I have been using this rom for a while now. While it is the same cpu that the 1.5 was running, the new android is better optimized and makes more efficient use of the available ram and cpu speed. I have noticed it to be faster in all the ways that I use it. I saw a big difference in my mp4 playback.
    04-17-2010 03:14 PM
  22. wolf1989#AC's Avatar
    Wolf you should check out DamageControl 2.07.2 Thats what i'm using and have no lag at all so far (fingers crossed)
    I've tried both. I've had the same problem with both.
    04-17-2010 03:24 PM
  23. jrdatrackstar1223's Avatar
    Well.... I didn't realize that 2.1 brings OpenGL ES 2.0 to Android, meaning that they can play 3D games and stuff. Since I am eligible to upgrade in December, I may just go ahead and sell my Pre when the official 2.1 comes out and I see games running on the Hero. N.O.V.A. and Modern Combat are just too good to give up right now. I just really doubt it could happen on the Hero because it's 528MHz Qualcomm, whereas the Snapdragon has its own set of hardware to handle graphics and everything for OpenGL ES 2.0.


    Or.....if I can find a Hero for $150 or less I'll just buy one to have on hand.....hmmm.....
    04-17-2010 06:50 PM
  24. gottria's Avatar
    Or.....if I can find a Hero for $150 or less I'll just buy one to have on hand.....hmmm.....
    I picked up a used Hero for $160, had a few small scratches on the bottom and side but screen is perfect. Rooted, and flashed DC Rom and can't put this phone down. Can't wait for the Evo or Sprint to get another Android phone.
    04-18-2010 10:09 AM
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