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  1. tewest86's Avatar
    Here are some comparison's done by phonearena and the SG4 clearly beats the HTC One hands down.
    Camera comparison: Samsung Galaxy S4 vs HTC One, Sony Xperia Z, iPhone 5, Nokia Lumia 920 and Galaxy S3
    04-18-2013 11:07 AM
  2. duopperi's Avatar
    Here are some comparison's done by phonearena and the SG4 clearly beats the HTC One hands down.
    Camera comparison: Samsung Galaxy S4 vs HTC One, Sony Xperia Z, iPhone 5, Nokia Lumia 920 and Galaxy S3
    Do you have any idea how many times that article, let alone this topic, have been posted and discussed already?
    04-18-2013 11:09 AM
  3. tewest86's Avatar
    I haven't seen one posted that included the SG4.
    04-18-2013 11:10 AM
  4. Acelx's Avatar
    I kinda agree the camera topic is just way tooooo overrated.. if you want a better camera buy the S4.. or stay with ur current smartphone
    Topgonzo likes this.
    04-18-2013 11:12 AM
  5. Frank Estevez's Avatar
    The Lumia 920 also scored a 6, which pretty much invalidates that entire comparison article.
    rmpatel and Awake like this.
    04-18-2013 11:14 AM
  6. adriandb's Avatar
    I haven't seen one posted that included the SG4.
    Really?!
    04-18-2013 11:14 AM
  7. tewest86's Avatar
    The Lumia 920 also scored a 6, which pretty much invalidates that entire comparison article.
    Why so? What makes you think the Lumia 920 camera is so great? I can tell you it isn't. It's average. You can look at the pictures yourself.
    04-18-2013 11:15 AM
  8. tewest86's Avatar
    Really?!
    I see it now in the Samsung forum. I guess I used the wrong search words the first time. Well, thread can be deleted. Sorry!!
    04-18-2013 11:17 AM
  9. doomstang's Avatar
    Looking at the overall scores....seeing the Lumia 920 at a 6, I would assume lower = better.

    If the One is where the Lumia is in regards to camera, we are in good shape.
    04-18-2013 11:18 AM
  10. Awake's Avatar
    The GS3 is a 7, and the HTC One is a 6?! Hahaha! That comparison is obviously biased.
    rmpatel likes this.
    04-18-2013 11:32 AM
  11. Topgonzo's Avatar
    Although its nice to have a camera on my phone if I'm looking to take pictures to frame or print I wouldn't use a phone anyways.
    If you're a Samsung fan and not even really interested in the HTC one why troll this forum anyways?
    04-18-2013 11:35 AM
  12. BigDinCA's Avatar
    I haven't seen one posted that included the SG4.
    Then this must be the first day you've been on the One forums. Welcome!
    BlackPrince310 likes this.
    04-18-2013 11:37 AM
  13. BigDinCA's Avatar
    Looking at the overall scores....seeing the Lumia 920 at a 6, I would assume lower = better.

    If the One is where the Lumia is in regards to camera, we are in good shape.
    I think it's the opposite, but honestly isn't all of this really subjective? I really wasn't impressed with the 920 shots that much. The GS4 shots looked really good and the iPhone5 shots were blowing out too many colors for my taste. At times they all looked like they took decent pics and there are others where they have all had some issues. But that's in the eye of this beholder. As far as I can tell the One takes great pictures and really great video. Is it the best? Probably not in every setting. But I love the camera on my EVO and if the One is an improvement then I am stoked to use it. I do hope they correct the low-light ISO issues and eliminate some of the noise I've seen in lots of those pictures, but even with the noise the low-light pictures look really good.
    04-18-2013 11:44 AM
  14. madlaw1071's Avatar
    Although its nice to have a camera on my phone if I'm looking to take pictures to frame or print I wouldn't use a phone anyways.
    If you're a Samsung fan and not even really interested in the HTC one why troll this forum anyways?
    Because some of us are ANDROID fans and not fans for any particular brand. We jump from phone to phone with no loyalty whatsoever.
    LegalAmerican likes this.
    04-18-2013 11:45 AM
  15. Habiib's Avatar
    Jesus, How many times do I have to post these pictures to prove that Phonearena is inconsistent. Look here for yourselves.

    Both taken with the HTC One. The worst looking picture as published for the comparison test...see the difference?


    Both taken with the HTC One. The worst looking picture as published for the comparison test...see the difference?


    Amazing, just like that Phonearena was so smart that they forgot they already had the same pictures taken with the same camera of the SAME subject. I'm dying to hear someone try to justify these results.
    04-18-2013 01:33 PM
  16. warpdrive's Avatar
    I'm dying to hear someone try to justify these results.
    Did you check to see if it has anything to do with the latest camera update? There is a lot of FUD in this forum, so did you look into this matter to see how true it is?


    sent with my 2 year old HTC evo3d
    Gathomblipoob likes this.
    04-18-2013 03:45 PM
  17. Habiib's Avatar
    Did you check to see if it has anything to do with the latest camera update? There is a lot of FUD in this forum, so did you look into this matter to see how true it is?


    sent with my 2 year old HTC evo3d
    The left half of the pictures are from the initial review of the HTC One, the right half was during the comparison test. I've looked at the results for quite some time. The left half was taken in 16:9 aspect ratio (initial review) and the right half was taken in 4:3 aspect ratio (for the comparison test).

    The image data for the 16:9 photo (initial review) is:

    F-stop f/2
    Exposure time 1/1832 sec
    ISO - 100
    Focal length 4mm
    35mm focal length 28
    Flash mode - No flash, auto
    Contrast - Normal
    Brightness - 7.836468
    Exposure - Normal
    Saturation - Normal
    Sharpness - Normal
    White balance - Auto


    There was no EXIF data for the right half of the photo. Talking out my rear, I think the right-half of each photo is a result of HTC's implementation of metering and exposure adjustment. In my experience, I was able to duplicate the results by focusing on the brightest area in the frame, which lowered the exposure. If I focused on the darkest area in the frame, the exposure was increased. I'm not sure which parameter changes during this process?. Pardon me if I mixed up terminology, but that is the best way I can describe it.

    In a nutshell if I want the picture to appear darker, I would change the focal point to the brightest area in the frame prior to taking the picture. Likewise if I want a picture to appear brighter. Assuming default settings and I don't have the ISO value locked.

    Edit: I'm not sure if when you manually change the focal point, how large the area is for spot-metering vs. letting the camera decide the focal point.
    04-18-2013 05:11 PM
  18. Erik Pendleton's Avatar
    The left half of the pictures are from the initial review of the HTC One, the right half was during the comparison test. I've looked at the results for quite some time. The left half was taken in 16:9 aspect ratio (initial review) and the right half was taken in 4:3 aspect ratio (for the comparison test).

    The image data for the 16:9 photo (initial review) is:

    F-stop f/2
    Exposure time 1/1832 sec
    ISO - 100
    Focal length 4mm
    35mm focal length 28
    Flash mode - No flash, auto
    Contrast - Normal
    Brightness - 7.836468
    Exposure - Normal
    Saturation - Normal
    Sharpness - Normal
    White balance - Auto


    There was no EXIF data for the right half of the photo. Talking out my rear, I think the right-half of each photo is a result of HTC's implementation of metering and exposure adjustment. In my experience, I was able to duplicate the results by focusing on the brightest area in the frame, which lowered the exposure. If I focused on the darkest area in the frame, the exposure was increased. I'm not sure which parameter changes during this process?. Pardon me if I mixed up terminology, but that is the best way I can describe it.

    In a nutshell if I want the picture to appear darker, I would change the focal point to the brightest area in the frame prior to taking the picture. Likewise if I want a picture to appear brighter. Assuming default settings and I don't have the ISO value locked.

    Edit: I'm not sure if when you manually change the focal point, how large the area is for spot-metering vs. letting the camera decide the focal point.
    Yeah, these reviews (phonearena and others) suck because they really have no clue but just snap away, it would appear. And then it is hard to know if some iphone fanboy did the test and took 10 shots with the iphone to get the best they could, or just becuase they are familiar with the particular phone camera, know how to get a better pic.

    I can say that I just got the one last night. I am impressed with the low light abilities. I also tested against my current phone, an 8mp infuse, and the one is much better. The One camera is very good. It is also probably untouched for low light ability in a phone. Zoe is amazing. Having said that, adjusting the settings for the camera is a PITA and not well executed. However, in the samples that I have taken, the zoes, which overide any camera adjustments you have made, have actually, embarrassingly, been better than my carefully adjusted shots.
    04-18-2013 05:22 PM
  19. Gathomblipoob's Avatar
    So my iPhone 5 beats the S4 in daylight video capture? It doesn't matter to me. I want to try the HTC One for many different reasons besides the camera.
    rmpatel likes this.
    04-18-2013 05:27 PM
  20. aokusman1's Avatar
    It's not good that my one x has a better camera than the one, but I'm not getting it for the camera. I bet this is the last time HTC uses ultrapixel.

    Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
    04-18-2013 05:50 PM
  21. warpdrive's Avatar
    The left half of the pictures are from the initial review of the HTC One, the right half was during the comparison test. I've looked at the results for quite some time. The left half was taken in 16:9 aspect ratio (initial review) and the right half was taken in 4:3 aspect ratio (for the comparison test).

    The image data for the 16:9 photo (initial review) is:

    F-stop f/2
    Exposure time 1/1832 sec
    ISO - 100
    Focal length 4mm
    35mm focal length 28
    Flash mode - No flash, auto
    Contrast - Normal
    Brightness - 7.836468
    Exposure - Normal
    Saturation - Normal
    Sharpness - Normal
    White balance - Auto


    There was no EXIF data for the right half of the photo. Talking out my rear, I think the right-half of each photo is a result of HTC's implementation of metering and exposure adjustment. In my experience, I was able to duplicate the results by focusing on the brightest area in the frame, which lowered the exposure. If I focused on the darkest area in the frame, the exposure was increased. I'm not sure which parameter changes during this process?. Pardon me if I mixed up terminology, but that is the best way I can describe it.

    In a nutshell if I want the picture to appear darker, I would change the focal point to the brightest area in the frame prior to taking the picture. Likewise if I want a picture to appear brighter. Assuming default settings and I don't have the ISO value locked.

    Edit: I'm not sure if when you manually change the focal point, how large the area is for spot-metering vs. letting the camera decide the focal point.
    You do know that if you change the ficus area with a tap of your finger, you then switched from center weight metering to "spot" metering, right?

    The image is only taking an exposure dead center of the box.

    In before you edited

    sent with my 2 year old HTC evo3d
    Habiib likes this.
    04-18-2013 06:34 PM
  22. warpdrive's Avatar
    But yeah, most reviews suck...the camera is quite complex and deep that a normal person could still learn some quirks a month after.

    sent with my 2 year old HTC evo3d
    rmpatel likes this.
    04-18-2013 06:36 PM
  23. Habiib's Avatar
    You do know that if you change the ficus area with a tap of your finger, you then switched from center weight metering to "spot" metering, right?

    The image is only taking an exposure dead center of the box.

    In before you edited

    sent with my 2 year old HTC evo3d
    Yeah thanks, that was the term I was trying to explain. With the term ultrapixel I'm assuming the average user would expect stellar performance in all conditions, even though it's meant for low light conditions.
    04-18-2013 06:59 PM
  24. mmohn01's Avatar
    The Lumia 920 camera is the best part of that phone. I'd still have it if it weren't for the bugs in the software. After my 3rd 920, I just couldn't keep taking it back for another one. I really like Windows Phone and Android, but Android wins in the OS stability department. That camera even took low light pictures. This is a pic I took with the 920. There isn't a camera out there that can touch that.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Android Central Forums
    Attached Thumbnails *Discard*  The HTC One's camera is clearly it's weak point!-uploadfromtaptalk1366330324948.jpg  
    Habiib and TeritorialDemon like this.
    04-18-2013 07:12 PM
  25. JoshieMSU's Avatar
    The Lumia 920 camera is the best part of that phone. I'd still have it if it weren't for the bugs in the software. After my 3rd 920, I just couldn't keep taking it back for another one. I really like Windows Phone and Android, but Android wins in the OS stability department. That camera even took low light pictures. This is a pic I took with the 920. There isn't a camera out there that can touch that.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Android Central Forums
    Disagree. Nice shot, fine at that size, mostly. However, even at that size, one can see loss of detail and noise throughout the branches and such. This is nitpicking (pixel peeping?), sort of, but you DID say that no other camera (even assuming smartphone only) can compare, which is simply not true at all.
    04-19-2013 10:59 AM
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