1. Zork Champion's Avatar
    Hi,
    I've had my phone for almost 2 months now. It just clicked to me a few days ago that my battery life isn't that great after looking at a friend's One. We were at the same battery percentage but he had about an hour more screen time than me. I use a low screen brightness.



    Lots of activity with no screen on


    Is this normal?


    Phone idle?
    08-14-2013 10:10 PM
  2. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    Hi,
    I've had my phone for almost 2 months now. It just clicked to me a few days ago that my battery life isn't that great after looking at a friend's One. We were at the same battery percentage but he had about an hour more screen time than me. I use a low screen brightness.

    http://imgur.com/BKcXfwb.png

    Lots of activity with no screen on
    http://imgur.com/JiyBH65.png

    Is this normal?
    http://imgur.com/E5fUeuI.png

    Phone idle?
    http://imgur.com/vHZiTN4.png
    Well, lots of things can be happening. Are you on the same carrier? Did he turn auto sync off? Do you play a lot of video intense games? Does he use wifi?
    08-14-2013 10:24 PM
  3. Zork Champion's Avatar
    Well, lots of things can be happening. Are you on the same carrier? Did he turn auto sync off? Do you play a lot of video intense games? Does he use wifi?
    Yes, I've been with AT&T the whole time. I turned auto sync off midday today. I don't play any games or do anything really intensive. I use wifi when I'm at home. One of my concerns is my Held Awake time and the huge discrepancies between screen on and awake.
    Attached Thumbnails Why is my battery so bad?-screenshot_2013-08-14-23-28-10.png  
    08-14-2013 10:30 PM
  4. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    Yes, I've been with AT&T the whole time. I turned auto sync off midday today. I don't play any games or do anything really intensive. I use wifi when I'm at home. One of my concerns is my Held Awake time and the huge discrepancies between screen on and awake.
    The awake times don't seem so bad. I looked at all your stats again and Google services seems to be a culprit. Also Facebook but not as much.
    08-14-2013 10:39 PM
  5. Zork Champion's Avatar
    The awake times don't seem so bad. I looked at all your stats again and Google services seems to be a culprit. Also Facebook but not as much.
    NlpWakeLock and NlpCollectorWakeLock appear to be the top users from Google Services. Any idea what to do about this and/or facebook?
    08-14-2013 10:49 PM
  6. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    NlpWakeLock and NlpCollectorWakeLock appear to be the top users from Google Services. Any idea what to do about this and/or facebook?
    Unfortunately, no. Play Services, you can try going into Settings>Apps>swipe over to all and scroll down to Play Services and even Facebook and clear cache. But I really don't think that will work. Uninstall Facebook. If it ain't there, it won't wake your device.

    But look at it this way: YOu are getting 9 hours on 50% battery and I would guess at 75% used you are pushing 13 hours? That really isn't all that bad....
    08-14-2013 10:55 PM
  7. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    Another thought: These devices can be compared to cars. Take the exact same car. They both will have different fuel mileage. Sometimes, it just happens.
    08-14-2013 10:56 PM
  8. Zork Champion's Avatar
    Unfortunately, no. Play Services, you can try going into Settings>Apps>swipe over to all and scroll down to Play Services and even Facebook and clear cache. But I really don't think that will work. Uninstall Facebook. If it ain't there, it won't wake your device.

    But look at it this way: YOu are getting 9 hours on 50% battery and I would guess at 75% used you are pushing 13 hours? That really isn't all that bad....
    If you extrapolated from my first picture, I would be getting under 2 hours of screen time. I've seen pictures in that battery thread life where people are getting 4+ hours. I even saw as high as 5.5 hours. I'm also just concerned with the wakelocks. I created a new point in gsam. In 22 minutes, I've had google services keep it awake for over 2 min.
    08-14-2013 11:10 PM
  9. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    If you extrapolated from my first picture, I would be getting under 2 hours of screen time. I've seen pictures in that battery thread life where people are getting 4+ hours. I even saw as high as 5.5 hours. I'm also just concerned with the wakelocks. I created a new point in gsam. In 22 minutes, I've had google services keep it awake for over 2 min.
    The screen hours are again what carrier, signal quality, WiFi...etc? Your device will fight to keep a horrible signal. That drains the battery.

    Sent from a SlimROM S3.
    08-14-2013 11:15 PM
  10. Almeuit's Avatar
    What... Is the issue? 10 hours and you went from full to 75% is what I'm seeing from the first screenshot... How is that bad?

    Also the activity in the next screenshots is simply google services running.. Aka your email contacts, etc. Syncing. The phone idle is so high because that was the biggest drain... Nothing else used the battery except the phone just idling.

    Sent from my T-Mobile HTC One using AC Forums.
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    08-15-2013 06:51 AM
  11. Zork Champion's Avatar
    I was just concerned with the amount of wakelocks with Google services. Also, how come htc power in settings says HTC Sense has used 20% of battery while gsam says .7%?

    Posted via Android Central App
    08-15-2013 10:48 AM
  12. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    I was just concerned with the amount of wakelocks with Google services. Also, how come htc power in settings says HTC Sense has used 20% of battery while gsam says .7%?

    Posted via Android Central App
    I will be honest, I do not know.

    Sent from a SlimROM S3.
    08-15-2013 12:15 PM
  13. markbc's Avatar
    Battery use really is different user to user. No two people use the same apps, or have the same configuration, so your phone and your friends will always use at a different rate.
    Best advice is root and load greenify. It will ensure apps are not running uselessly in the background (at least the apps you tell it to " hibernate." )
    You can still use all the apps. . greenify just ensures that they only run in the background I'd you want them to. ..
    Good luck!

    Edit: also Google Apps (maps, Google now, Google+) use an extraordinary amount of your battery. .
    unless they do a lot for you, I recommend you freeze them or find substitutes. ..( mapquest is very good and uses much less Battery for example)

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using AC Forums mobile app
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    08-15-2013 12:38 PM
  14. Almeuit's Avatar
    I was just concerned with the amount of wakelocks with Google services. Also, how come htc power in settings says HTC Sense has used 20% of battery while gsam says .7%?

    Posted via Android Central App
    My guess... To the HTC power meter in settings it used a lot more... Whereas gsam sees it used less because gsam takes into account phone awake time AND screen time.. Whereas I don't believe the HTC power meter does take this into account.

    Sent from my T-Mobile HTC One using AC Forums.
    08-15-2013 12:53 PM
  15. Topgonzo's Avatar
    Battery use really is different user to user. No two people use the same apps, or have the same configuration, so your phone and your friends will always use at a different rate.
    Best advice is root and load greenify. It will ensure apps are not running uselessly in the background (at least the apps you tell it to " hibernate." )
    You can still use all the apps. . greenify just ensures that they only run in the background I'd you want them to. ..
    Good luck!

    Edit: also Google Apps (maps, Google now, Google+) use an extraordinary amount of your battery. .
    unless they do a lot for you, I recommend you freeze them or find substitutes. ..( mapquest is very good and uses much less Battery for example)

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using AC Forums mobile app
    I also would recommend root. It can do wonders for battery life.
    Thanks for the advice

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4 Beta
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    08-15-2013 02:51 PM
  16. Zork Champion's Avatar
    Even more wakelocks than yesterday. 5k+ for dialer and google services???
    Attached Thumbnails Why is my battery so bad?-screenshot_2013-08-15-18-27-46.jpg   Why is my battery so bad?-screenshot_2013-08-15-18-27-26.jpg  
    08-15-2013 09:52 PM
  17. Almeuit's Avatar
    I wouldn't worry when 5k wakes is 44 minutes. Also it could be off on how many wakes it is doing.

    Either way 1d+ battery is nothing to worry about. I mean regardless of stuff waking up you are getting awesome battery... You're worrying over nothing that needs to be worried about since it's obviously not affecting performance at all.

    Sent from my T-Mobile HTC One using AC Forums.
    08-15-2013 11:22 PM
  18. markbc's Avatar
    My guess... To the HTC power meter in settings it used a lot more... Whereas gsam sees it used less because gsam takes into account phone awake time AND screen time.. Whereas I don't believe the HTC power meter does take this into account. Sent from my T-Mobile HTC One using AC Forums.
    I no longer have an HTC, but it could be that one battery metric is showing you the relative use (20%) compared with all apps using power, while the other metric is showing you the absolute use (7%) as a percentage of total available battery.. . Not sure, but that sounds likely to me. You can read a good article posted by Jerry Hildenbrand today on this site --it's titled " Google Services, battery usage and other areas of confusion," and it sort of make that very point. Good read and relevant here I think!
    08-19-2013 01:13 AM
  19. garublador's Avatar
    My experience is that location services does a real number on battery life. If you have any sort of Google Now card checking your location at all you can expect it to use a pretty decent amount of battery for the day for something that happens when your phone is supposedly "asleep." You can go into Maps and prevent Google apps from using location data to see how much that helps. I monitored mine and it checked my location on an average of once every 42 seconds when enabled. They really need to either optimize it a lot more or give us options on how often to check location.

    There's also a thread where a couple of us talked about how to optimize synching and which program to use to do it (spoiler: Llama is easiest to use and most efficient, Tasker also works, but isn't as efficient but way more powerful):

    http://forums.androidcentral.com/gen...orks-best.html

    You also have to keep in mind that the more you use your screen, the more screen time you'll get per battery charge. I can get anywhere from 2 to 4 hours per day extrapolating down to 0% battery depending on how much I actually use the screen. The more stuff you have going on in the background while idle (location services, syncing, etc.) the more pronounced this effect will be.
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    08-19-2013 10:43 AM
  20. EverNap's Avatar
    My experience is that location services does a real number on battery life. If you have any sort of Google Now card checking your location at all you can expect it to use a pretty decent amount of battery for the day for something that happens when your phone is supposedly "asleep." You can go into Maps and prevent Google apps from using location data to see how much that helps. I monitored mine and it checked my location on an average of once every 42 seconds when enabled. They really need to either optimize it a lot more or give us options on how often to check location.
    Thanks. That's good to know. This bothered me a lot when I first got my One. Although it's nice to have Google Now show me how long it'll take to go to work/home, the frequent location checking seemed to drain my battery. I just turned that off, and (dunno if that's directly related but) my battery life has been pretty great. It idles with low usage, and I can get through the day without ever worrying about recharging my phone.
    08-19-2013 10:50 AM
  21. garublador's Avatar
    Thanks. That's good to know. This bothered me a lot when I first got my One. Although it's nice to have Google Now show me how long it'll take to go to work/home, the frequent location checking seemed to drain my battery. I just turned that off, and (dunno if that's directly related but) my battery life has been pretty great. It idles with low usage, and I can get through the day without ever worrying about recharging my phone.
    The funny thing about the traffic card is I accidentally said I use public transit (which I don't) so now that card won't tell me how long my commute is and I can't figure out how to fix it. I haven't put a lot of thought into it because I only work 2.5 miles away from my house and I have that stuff turned off because it was too much of a battery hog. I'd like to have it on because there are a lot of cool features, but I can't justify wasting that much battery on stuff that's only cool and not actually super useful to me.

    Strangely enough, I found that just disabling any cards that might check your location wasn't good enough. It worked for about 3 days and then the number of times it checked my location went back up to about 3/4 of what it was before. Actually stopping Google Apps from checking my location made a gigantic difference. On days when I'm home a lot (which happens quite a bit on the weekends with a 2.5 year old who's potty training and a 2 month old) it's down to like 200-300 times per day (I have Tasker profiles that check my location if I'm not home). If it's a normal day and I go to work it's more like 800-900 times. With Now cards that use location off but Access location on it started at 800-900 times but creeped up to anywhere from 1200-1400 times per day. With turning all Now cards on it was anywhere from 1300-2000 times per day.

    Full disclaimer, I have a Galaxy S4, not a One. However, this seems to be a Google/Android issue rather than a OEM/device issue.
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    08-19-2013 11:10 AM
  22. yourbrokenoven's Avatar
    With default settings and normal use, I only have to charge my phone about once every day and a half or two days.
    08-19-2013 09:00 PM
  23. Zork Champion's Avatar
    I did something the other night where I removed most of my Google apps and then removed account from phone. I restarted, added account back, and then updated apps. WLD reported 7% awake last two nights versus like 20% or more like I was getting. Got like 10% awake today. Will monitor tomorrow.

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    08-19-2013 11:01 PM

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