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  1. wanted198's Avatar
    Apparently the GS4 is ensured to get 5.0 update, but will the HTC One?
    09-03-2013 04:18 PM
  2. andriver's Avatar
    That would be sweet but I will not hold my breath for it.
    bigtnew likes this.
    09-03-2013 04:21 PM
  3. Jnorton2724's Avatar
    Isn't the next version 4.4?

    Sent from my HTC One
    09-03-2013 04:37 PM
  4. mhans311's Avatar
    Yeah the next version is 4.4 and I bet the one will get it. I would be surprised if it didn't.

    Noted via tapatalk
    09-03-2013 04:56 PM
  5. Gator352's Avatar
    Google updating Android is a good thing. Says they are committed to it. With that said.....

    I'm actually sick of Google putting out updates before phones that are 2 updates behind catch up that are capable and/or scheduled to be updated. I understand that it's not all Google's fault because the carriers hold them back. But this fragmentation has to quit. So my feeling is that GOOGLE needs to let other phones catch dafuq up before releasing updates like they are going out of style. Not all of us can buy a new phone every 6 months to a year just to get the latest update that SHOULD already be on our current phones...

    /end rant
    anthony2558, jeverts and qxr like this.
    09-03-2013 05:23 PM
  6. wanted198's Avatar
    I am talking about unlocked/SIM free phones. What is the limit of updates for them?
    09-03-2013 06:15 PM
  7. ffejjj's Avatar
    Google updating Android is a good thing. Says they are committed to it. With that said.....

    I'm actually sick of Google putting out updates before phones that are 2 updates behind catch up that are capable and/or scheduled to be updated. I understand that it's not all Google's fault because the carriers hold them back. But this fragmentation has to quit. So my feeling is that GOOGLE needs to let other phones catch dafuq up before releasing updates like they are going out of style. Not all of us can buy a new phone every 6 months to a year just to get the latest update that SHOULD already be on our current phones...

    /end rant
    Insert standing ovation here

    Sent from my HTCONE using AC Forums mobile app
    Bradski9 and qxr like this.
    09-03-2013 06:20 PM
  8. Jnorton2724's Avatar
    Unlocked HTC One will get it after the Nexus devices and GPE phones, I assume. My AT&T HTC One will see 4.2.2 at best, never ever getting kit Kat but that's what I have my Nexus 4 for.

    Sent from my HTC One
    09-07-2013 06:03 PM
  9. anthony2558's Avatar
    It seems to me that its slowing down. We all thought 5.0 would be key lime pie, but it wasn't, they just made 4.4 kitkat. So it seems to me that from here on out it'll be small incremental updates. Like BB used to do ex: 7.034.110 to 7.034.117. Just a thought. Kitkat was a huge surprise, or was it just a way to get all androids on the 4.? track.


    To answer the question I believe the HTC One has a very good chance seeing 5.0. It would probably be in HTC best interest to do so.

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2
    09-07-2013 06:15 PM
  10. LindtChocolate's Avatar
    Unlocked HTC One will get it after the Nexus devices and GPE phones, I assume. My AT&T HTC One will see 4.2.2 at best, never ever getting kit Kat but that's what I have my Nexus 4 for.

    Sent from my HTC One
    afaik US carriers are skipping the 4.2.2 update and going straight to 4.3 by the end of September.
    09-08-2013 12:00 AM
  11. swarlos's Avatar
    Google updating Android is a good thing. Says they are committed to it. With that said.....

    I'm actually sick of Google putting out updates before phones that are 2 updates behind catch up that are capable and/or scheduled to be updated. I understand that it's not all Google's fault because the carriers hold them back. But this fragmentation has to quit. So my feeling is that GOOGLE needs to let other phones catch dafuq up before releasing updates like they are going out of style. Not all of us can buy a new phone every 6 months to a year just to get the latest update that SHOULD already be on our current phones...

    /end rant
    Exactly why I came back to iOS cause of the ridiculous update situation on Android. If I bought last years flagship like the SGS3 or HTC One X there's no guarantee it would get updated which is unacceptable.


    Carried by a raven from The Wall.
    09-08-2013 12:48 AM
  12. wanted198's Avatar
    I'm getting an unlocked HTC One. Will I get my update faster depending on which carrier's SIM I use, or as it's unlocked do I get it the fastest regardless of whether I get a T-Mobile, o2, giffgaff, or whatever other SIM carrier?
    09-08-2013 07:08 AM
  13. russel5150's Avatar
    As far as my opinion goes.. Buy a phone for what it is and not what it will be. I understand that getting updates and getting a new phone that may get updated is nice, but in reality we don't know where technology will be in a year.. It moves too fast. I hope my phone will get 5.0 but to be honest giving it too much thought is ridiculous because your supposed to buy a phone for what it is.

    There's been talk in the past about how people keep wanting the updates so fast, and then when it gets pushed people complain that it isn't what they thought. This time last last year I was happy to see ICS 4.0 on my RAZR maxx, in 12 months or less it has become outdated for the most part.. And I remember people complaining they didn't have jellybean yet when the percentage of phones with ICS was actually pretty low.

    As far as not being able to afford a new phone every six months or a year I understand, which makes it more important to buy a phone you like knowing you will probably have it a while.

    If you think about the idea of a two year contract, then pretty much figure that when you buy a phone your going to have it two years, so also figure you will get every other android release.. The only reason I have 4.2.2 now is because I spent extra money to get new phones, and I'm on the third one I in 12 months.

    I'm happy with mine but in reality I see it for what it is, and I figure by next year if I get a new one I I'll get a new version of android.

    Maybe my thinking is off, but while its nice to get the updates, remember the phone companies make money when we have to have the newest and greatest, that's marketing for you.. As long as I get update fixes to what little things need adjusted than I'm good.

    You have to remember that when a new version of android comes out it has to be compatible with a lot of varieties of phones.. Something apple doesn't have to deal with. Between on screen buttons and captive buttons, cores and what nots.. It takes time to roll out a good version to the masses.. And we don't want them too early... And THEY want to keep us wanting more.

    Just my two cents..
    Using my Moto Droid Maxx
    09-08-2013 07:30 AM
  14. HalizDad's Avatar
    Exactly why I came back to iOS cause of the ridiculous update situation on Android. If I bought last years flagship like the SGS3 or HTC One X there's no guarantee it would get updated which is unacceptable.


    Carried by a raven from The Wall.
    So you switched because iOS gets such rapid updating, yet is so far behind Android it's not even funny? Or is it because you prefer once a year makeovers to a phone that is falling further and further behind Android? Apple usually rolls out security updates and tweaks between full versions of iOS, and last I looked that full iOS update that's coming out only goes back to iPhone 4, so there's never a guarantee of an update from Apple, either. BTW, the new iOS looks so much like Android, I'd sue them if I were Google just because I have more money..But, Google has too much class to do anything so trivial.

    But, to answer the OP's question, I think we'll get "Kit Kat"...I'd put money on it if I were a betting man, but what would you do if Android said the update numbers aren't making sense, so we're going to start over with "Android 1.0 Kit Kat"? Would you feel ripped off because of a numbering convention?
    09-08-2013 12:09 PM
  15. gollum18's Avatar
    Exactly why I came back to iOS cause of the ridiculous update situation on Android. If I bought last years flagship like the SGS3 or HTC One X there's no guarantee it would get updated which is unacceptable.


    Carried by a raven from The Wall.
    I dont see how it is ridiculous, iOS has the same problem. Its just handled a little differently as apple actually enforces their carrier update deadlines.

    Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2
    09-08-2013 12:42 PM
  16. blessedred's Avatar
    Your AT&T phone won't even see 4.2.2 did you forget HTC is going straight to 4.3 with the phones in the US? You don't pay much attention do ya.

    Posted via HTC One on their cool app
    09-08-2013 03:46 PM
  17. cookiesnfooty's Avatar
    Google updating Android is a good thing. Says they are committed to it. With that said.....

    I'm actually sick of Google putting out updates before phones that are 2 updates behind catch up that are capable and/or scheduled to be updated. I understand that it's not all Google's fault because the carriers hold them back. But this fragmentation has to quit. So my feeling is that GOOGLE needs to let other phones catch dafuq up before releasing updates like they are going out of style. Not all of us can buy a new phone every 6 months to a year just to get the latest update that SHOULD already be on our current phones...

    /end rant
    The fragmentation is often caused by carrier altered updates and often manufacturer specific updates, unlike IOS designed for apples own device there are a lot of devices receiving android.

    Posted via Android Central App
    09-08-2013 05:57 PM
  18. wanted198's Avatar
    I'm getting an unlocked phone. Will I get 5.0 and does it matter which network/carrier's SIM I use before I can update?
    09-08-2013 06:11 PM
  19. Central n ohios best's Avatar
    Exactly why I came back to iOS cause of the ridiculous update situation on Android. If I bought last years flagship like the SGS3 or HTC One X there's no guarantee it would get updated which is unacceptable.


    Carried by a raven from The Wall.
    To think that the sgs3 won't get updated is totally bonkers. The sgs2 ok but the 3.

    Sent from my T-Mobile LG Escape using Tapatalk 2
    09-08-2013 07:07 PM
  20. Gator352's Avatar
    Exactly why I came back to iOS cause of the ridiculous update situation on Android. If I bought last years flagship like the SGS3 or HTC One X there's no guarantee it would get updated which is unacceptable.


    Carried by a raven from The Wall.
    And iOS gets killer updates for the 1 phone they have.

    iphone 5s = s is for same

    iphone 5c = c is for cheap

    There's your choice's.
    09-09-2013 03:50 AM
  21. Gator352's Avatar
    I understand the carriers have a lot to do with holding up the updates. I mentioned that. My problem is with Google putting out updates faster than the carriers can update the phones they already have scheduled to receive an update, which is already an update behind. The only way to combat this is to buy a Nexus. Period.

    Example: Google releases 4.1. Before phones enter market with 4.1, Google releases 4.2. As soon as phones release with 4.1, Google releases 4.2.1. Within months, Google releases 4.3. Phones get to market with 4.2.1 and Google releases 4.3. Now within months again...Google is releasing 4.4.....most phones are still on 4.1 and a lucky few rock 4.2.1 or 4.2.2. By the time 5.0 gets released, the lucky masses will be on 4.3.

    These phones cost 200-250 to produce. The carrier prolly buys them for 300-400. They sell them to us for 550-700 per phone under no contract. Under subsidy, we pay 100-200 up front and the rest is split between 24 months. Not only do they make a profit on the phone, they make a huge profit on the high price of the plan. The plan is where they make the money. They could care less what phone you have as long as you pay the bill. The only thing the carriers are interested in is making the network better so you'll switch to them. So in essence, they don't care if your phone gets updated....they do it to keep you happy in the mean time so you don't leave. Google knows this.
    09-09-2013 05:03 AM
  22. wanted198's Avatar
    ...I'm getting an unlocked phone. Will I get 5.0 and does it matter which network/carrier's SIM I use before I can update?
    09-09-2013 05:46 AM
  23. roflwaffleton's Avatar
    ...I'm getting an unlocked phone. Will I get 5.0 and does it matter which network/carrier's SIM I use before I can update?
    Why do you keep asking the same question over and over again? 5.0 hasn't even been announced. With the incremental numbering Google has been using for updates, there's no telling if/when 5.0 will be released.
    09-09-2013 09:38 AM
  24. puch96's Avatar
    Google updating Android is a good thing. Says they are committed to it. With that said.....

    I'm actually sick of Google putting out updates before phones that are 2 updates behind catch up that are capable and/or scheduled to be updated. I understand that it's not all Google's fault because the carriers hold them back. But this fragmentation has to quit. So my feeling is that GOOGLE needs to let other phones catch dafuq up before releasing updates like they are going out of style. Not all of us can buy a new phone every 6 months to a year just to get the latest update that SHOULD already be on our current phones...

    /end rant
    I think Google should start having control of ALL hardware that has Android as OS. They should have control over the carriers, much like iOS has. That way, it is Google's say on which phones get updated and which phones don't. Also, they should decide "when" without having to rely on the carriers...

    .... and then I woke up and I saw my HTC One was still on 4.1.
    09-09-2013 10:00 AM
  25. festinator's Avatar
    I understand the carriers have a lot to do with holding up the updates. I mentioned that. My problem is with Google putting out updates faster than the carriers can update the phones they already have scheduled to receive an update, which is already an update behind. The only way to combat this is to buy a Nexus. Period.

    Example: Google releases 4.1. Before phones enter market with 4.1, Google releases 4.2. As soon as phones release with 4.1, Google releases 4.2.1. Within months, Google releases 4.3. Phones get to market with 4.2.1 and Google releases 4.3. Now within months again...Google is releasing 4.4.....most phones are still on 4.1 and a lucky few rock 4.2.1 or 4.2.2. By the time 5.0 gets released, the lucky masses will be on 4.3.

    These phones cost 200-250 to produce. The carrier prolly buys them for 300-400. They sell them to us for 550-700 per phone under no contract. Under subsidy, we pay 100-200 up front and the rest is split between 24 months. Not only do they make a profit on the phone, they make a huge profit on the high price of the plan. The plan is where they make the money. They could care less what phone you have as long as you pay the bill. The only thing the carriers are interested in is making the network better so you'll switch to them. So in essence, they don't care if your phone gets updated....they do it to keep you happy in the mean time so you don't leave. Google knows this.
    Hey, if this bothers you sooooo much, stop complaining and get a nexus. I don't see what Google can do about it, or why they should even care. Android belongs to them, and they put what they think android should look like on the nexus phones and they let everyone else do what they want to it and that's why it takes so long to be released on other phones. Why should they have to wait for all the other carriers to catch up? That'll just slow them down and while they're sitting on their hands waiting for everyone to catch up, apple, windows and blackberry will surpass them and some of the new things they came out with may not be so new anymore.
    09-09-2013 10:20 AM
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