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  1. blackdogAC's Avatar
    I've had my eye on the Note 3 for a while. I like the 5.7" screen, and the stylus/drawing apps would be useful in my professional life (architectural designer ). But I'm tired of Sammy's lame and tired p cheap plasic housings (on a $700 device, that's almost unacceptable to me)..and the tired old TouchWiz doesn't do much for me.

    The build quality on the M8 is very impressive and now that it sports a micro SD, it's a very attractive option. I also REALLY like having forward -facing stereo speakers. But I'd have to accept the mediocre camera and useless dual lens and Zoe gimmicks and of course wouldn't get the stylus.
    or a removable battery.

    So, I'm stuck on the fence. Anyone in a similar position or have advice based on experience with both?
    Thanks.
    03-30-2014 04:46 PM
  2. neonworm's Avatar
    Well, based on what you said, it seems that the Note 3 is the best for you.
    03-30-2014 04:51 PM
  3. Skyway's Avatar
    I've had my eye on the Note 3 for a while. I like the 5.7" screen, and the stylus/drawing apps would be useful in my professional life (architectural designer ). But I'm tired of Sammy's lame and tired p cheap plasic housings (on a $700 device, that's almost unacceptable to me)..and the tired old TouchWiz doesn't do much for me.

    The build quality on the M8 is very impressive and now that it sports a micro SD, it's a very attractive option. I also REALLY like having forward -facing stereo speakers. But I'd have to accept the mediocre camera and useless dual lens and Zoe gimmicks and of course wouldn't get the stylus.
    or a removable battery.

    So, I'm stuck on the fence. Anyone in a similar position or have advice based on experience with both?
    Thanks.
    The camera is way above mediocre, I suggest you give it a try instead of just believing everything you read on the internet. The duo camera is far from useless and zoes are actually really cool, one of my favorite features. Don't be mislead by the fact that it's a 4mp camera...

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    03-30-2014 06:19 PM
  4. clevin's Avatar
    If you need to draw, and want removable battery, I don't know you have any other choice.

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    03-30-2014 06:57 PM
  5. Soundtrack to Chaos's Avatar
    Why not wait a few months and get a note 4? Getting either if the above mentioned devices now will leave you with buyers remorse by September ,lol


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    03-30-2014 07:34 PM
  6. likebutta's Avatar
    Why not wait a few months and get a note 4? Getting either if the above mentioned devices now will leave you with buyers remorse by September ,lol


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    By that token, buying in September will leave him with buyers remorse in February. You can wait forever for the best thing but it will be outdone in a short amount of time; that's technology.
    03-30-2014 07:50 PM
  7. Soundtrack to Chaos's Avatar
    By that token, buying in September will leave him with buyers remorse in February. You can wait forever for the best thing but it will be outdone in a short amount of time; that's technology.
    Not necessarily, what phone typically launches in February?


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    03-30-2014 07:53 PM
  8. jspring86's Avatar
    I have the Note 3 and the M8. I think they are both great phones, but each has its own set of shortcomings ( as outlined in your opening post). In the end you need to decide if build quality, awesome speakers, and better OEM OS ( this is subjective I just think Sense 6.0 is way better than Touchwiz) are more important than the S-Pen and a bigger screen. Both are so fast you can barely notice any difference. I am planning to use my Note 3 as my work phone because it is much better with doing anything with PDFs (especially annotating), but reading PDFs is still easy and pleasurable on the M8 since the on-screen buttons go away when reading the PDF in Moon Reader. The camera is better on the Note 3, but I don't use my smartphone for any important pictures anyway. Personally (again this is subjective) I think the M8 has a decent enough camera for what most people use their smartphone camera for.
    03-30-2014 07:56 PM
  9. dkhmwilliams's Avatar
    I really like what I have seen and read of the M8, but the Note 3 (I owned for a while) is a great device and it offers an experience that no other smartphone has been able to reproduce. There seems to be a lot of discontent about the build materials of Samsung devices, but I can say from experience that I have never had any problems with the build quality of any Samsung device I have owned. Actually, I have had issues in the past with HTC phones (dust under the screen, screen lift, failing charging ports, dead pixels, etc.). I would suggest to you and anyone else who has reservations about buying Samsung devices to forget about the build materials, they will hold up fine. Just enjoy the screen, that's where they excel beyond everyone else in my opinion.
    03-30-2014 08:05 PM
  10. freddyttt's Avatar
    My friend has the note 3 beautiful phone but an unusable speaker for nav n music and speakerphone....

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    03-30-2014 08:17 PM
  11. blackdogAC's Avatar
    Why not wait a few months and get a note 4? Getting either if the above mentioned devices now will leave you with buyers remorse by September ,lol


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    But here are two great phone, each of which are not perfect. I'm willing to bet that samsung puts another crappy plastic housing on the Note 4 which will also be a great phone but less than perfect. Ultimately there's always something that's going to be better down the road.
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    03-30-2014 09:07 PM
  12. Soundtrack to Chaos's Avatar
    But here are two great phone, each of which are not perfect. I'm willing to bet that samsung puts another crappy plastic housing on the Note 4 which will also be a great phone but less than perfect. Ultimately there's always something that's going to be better down the road.
    You can get a metal case for $50 so I don't see how the build quality would be an issue, and their software should be killer on the note 4.

    There will always be something better down the road, but if you get the note 4 before the end of the year you will be in a good position cause the next note wouldn't be out until another year. Whereas if you get the note 3 now, you are going to hear rumors of the note four and wonder if you jumped too early


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    03-30-2014 09:11 PM
  13. blackdogAC's Avatar
    I really like what I have seen and read of the M8, but the Note 3 (I owned for a while) is a great device and it offers an experience that no other smartphone has been able to reproduce. There seems to be a lot of discontent about the build materials of Samsung devices, but I can say from experience that I have never had any problems with the build quality of any Samsung device I have owned. Actually, I have had issues in the past with HTC phones (dust under the screen, screen lift, failing charging ports, dead pixels, etc.). I would suggest to you and anyone else who has reservations about buying Samsung devices to forget about the build materials, they will hold up fine. Just enjoy the screen, t

    hat's where they excel beyond everyone else in my opinion.

    I know that they are built to be durable; I've had an old Samsung device working daily for the last four years. It's just that it seems that a $700 device should have better ID. Samsung continues to show very mediocre design sensibility in terms of industrial design. Not a functionality thing, just aesthetics and feel. Apple has done a great job regarding this since the beginning and although I wouldn't use an iphonr if it were given to me, I do otherwise respect their sophisticated design sense.
    03-30-2014 09:14 PM
  14. blackdogAC's Avatar
    About the Note 4...it's amazing that it's still at $250 subsidized price too.
    03-30-2014 09:18 PM
  15. dkhmwilliams's Avatar
    I know that they are built to be durable; I've had an old Samsung device working daily for the last four years. It's just that it seems that a $700 device should have better ID. Samsung continues to show very mediocre design sensibility in terms of industrial design. Not a functionality thing, just aesthetics and feel. Apple has done a great job regarding this since the beginning and although I wouldn't use an iphonr if it were given to me, I do otherwise respect their sophisticated design sense.
    The aesthetics and feel of devices are subjective. I do love the design of the iPhone, but I also love the design of the Galaxy devices as well. But it would be hard to say that on the whole, Apple has a far better design and Samsung is mediocre. A lot of the design cues mirror each other. The only real difference I see is in the size and the build materials. I see the advantages of both the aluminum and plastic materials.
    03-30-2014 09:22 PM
  16. dkhmwilliams's Avatar
    About the Note 4...it's amazing that it's still at $250 subsidized price too.
    Did they release the Note 4 already and not tell anyone?
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    03-30-2014 09:25 PM
  17. raymaane's Avatar
    Not necessarily, what phone typically launches in February?


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    I think what he meant was that whenever you purchase a device, phones especially, you run the risk of buyer remorse when the "Next Big Thing" starts to be rumored or announced. Its a never-ending battle with technology. I personally would say if you want the Note 3 now, go and get it! Or play the waiting game, and be annoyed by waiting lol.
    03-30-2014 09:58 PM
  18. Soundtrack to Chaos's Avatar
    I think what he meant was that whenever you purchase a device, phones especially, you run the risk of buyer remorse when the "Next Big Thing" starts to be rumored or announced. Its a never-ending battle with technology. I personally would say if you want the Note 3 now, go and get it! Or play the waiting game, and be annoyed by waiting lol.
    I understand that, however when we look at the usual product schedules, now doesn't make the best time to get the note 3, it makes more sense to wait a few more months IMO . That's what I've been doing, I had my upgrade since February 1st, and will wait till the fall to get a new phone cause I know getting one now doesn't make sense for me when I know I will regret it .


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    03-30-2014 10:02 PM
  19. dkhmwilliams's Avatar
    It is probably more prudent to get a device that has been on the market for a while anyway. The hardware and software issues should be addressed by now and there are a ton of accessories available.
    03-30-2014 10:05 PM
  20. Soundtrack to Chaos's Avatar
    It is probably more prudent to get a device that has been on the market for a while anyway. The hardware and software issues should be addressed by now and there are a ton of accessories available.
    There's no guarantee of that, updates can fix and break things at the same time. For instance the note 3 kit kat update messed up my friends phone and caused text messaging errors to occur.

    It may be an isolated issue but updates can break known bugs and create new ones.
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    03-30-2014 10:22 PM
  21. raymaane's Avatar
    I understand that, however when we look at the usual product schedules, now doesn't make the best time to get the note 3, it makes more sense to wait a few more months IMO . That's what I've been doing, I had my upgrade since February 1st, and will wait till the fall to get a new phone cause I know getting one now doesn't make sense for me when I know I will regret it .



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    Ehh, I guess you have a point, in regards to the Note 3. I'm leaving heavily toward the M8, but the Note 3 crossed my path today and shifted things around! lol ... like I said its a never ending battle with this technology stuff, but we love it anyway!
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    03-30-2014 10:25 PM
  22. blackdogAC's Avatar
    Did they release the Note 4 already and not tell anyone?
    Sorry- Meant Note 3.
    03-31-2014 09:04 AM
  23. blackdogAC's Avatar
    Ahhh....tough choice- tough choice.
    I have an old Samsung Galaxy Player 5", that I've been using for four years.
    It has pretty good stereo speakers (on the back though) and I use that feature constantly.
    Set the device on a desk or beach blanket or wherever you're hanging out for a while- and listen to music without headphones.
    For me, very useful. Sometimes headphone wires are just a PITA and cutting yourself off acoustically from the world can be poor- or dangerous.

    Anyway, that's a big one for me...and as much as I like photography, I still have a separate decent camera. I would miss the Note's 5.7" screen- that, to me, is a really ideal size. And since I'm doing sketching and design-related stuff all the time, marking up drawings, etc, that functionality would be tremendous.

    I agree, that if you're getting the exact functionality you want, you can put a metal case on the Note 3 (you can, right?)...but as a designer, there's something about the inherent design quality that's very attractive. I really admire apple for this. I know it's subjective, but for me the design aesthetic of the iPhone is vastly superior to any Samsung device. It's like comparing a Lamborghini to a Toyota. Toyota's are great, but a Rav4 or a Toyota Camry is certainly in no way comparable to a Lamborghini visually. Toyotas are made to appeal to the largest quantity of people as possible and still be affordable. LCD design, which is what Samsung does.

    Maybe Sammy will bring in some new design blood and put the Note 4 in a well-designed skin and add forward-facing stereo speakers...
    probably not though. Not if they're trying to sell 100 million units.
    03-31-2014 09:17 AM
  24. bxhowell1's Avatar
    I just returned the M8 after trading my Note 3 on the Verizon Edge program. I only needed 48 hours to know that the Note is the phone for me. In the last three weeks I went from a Droid Maxx (great phone which I gave my daughter), to the Note 3, to the HFC one M8, and back to the Note 3. I absolutely love the screen on the Note 3. It took me less than a day to get used to it. Although the build quality on the HFC is outstanding, the screen seems far smaller. I compared it to my daughters Droid Maxx, and the screen on the Maxx is bigger. The on screen buttons take up some serious real estate. I don't think the usable screen is more than 4.7 inches. I will say that the HFC has outstanding sound quality though; the best I've ever heard from a smartphone. The camera wasn't a concern for me, but it seems to be for everyone else that has an issue with the device. I've never owned a Samsung phone until a couple weeks ago as I always felt like they were "cheaply made", but I no longer feel like that's the case. I do like the leather back on the Note 3 (fake I know), and regardless, the phone goes in a case before I leave the store.

    The HFC is very fast, but certainly not any quicker than the Note 3, and I think most of the Benchmark tests I've seen confirm this. I don't think you can go wrong with either device, but I really prefer the screen on the Note 3 even if it does have slightly lower pixel density. To think I was going to get an iphone 5s before deciding on the Note! My wife has a 5c, and it looks like a toy it's so small. I did like the M8, but I wish they would have truly given it a 5.0 inch usable screen. If you haven't already, put both phones side by side. There really is a big difference in screen size, but no so much overall size.
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    03-31-2014 09:07 PM
  25. Skyway's Avatar
    It's HTC, not HFC....

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    03-31-2014 09:43 PM
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