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  1. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    Personally wish it had a QHD screen...what do yall think?
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    The HTC One (M9) will supposedly have a 64-bit quad-core Snapdragon 810 chipset indeed, clocked at 2.0 GHz, and aided by 3 GB of the best RAM there is - DDR4. When it comes to the display, however a 5" panel with "only" a 1080p resolution is listed, so things won't change much from the current edition in that respect.

    What's changing, however, is arguably the HTC flagships' weakest spot - the camera resolution - as the new One M9 is said to arrive with a 20.7 MP rear camera with dual LED flash, and a 4 MP UltraPixel shooter in the front. A 2840 mAh battery is said to power all that jazz, and we can't say we are disappointed by the screen resolution, given the battery capacity, as we will probably get plenty of screen-on time with a juicer that is larger than the one on the M8. The One M9 will allegedly come in 32 GB and 64 GB internal storage versions, and run Android 5.0.2 Lollipop, with a new Sense 7.0 sprinkled on top.

    Complete list of HTC One M9 specs and accessories leaks: 5" display, larger battery
    02-13-2015 11:34 AM
  2. John-Smith's Avatar
    I think it's smart to stick with 1080p for a couple more years. Not only is it cheaper, but it just makes everything on the phone run better all around, from battery to performance.
    02-13-2015 12:34 PM
  3. Habiib's Avatar
    With the lack of native 2K content and the given screen size, I'm glad they aren't wasting resources on something I wouldn't notice nor be able to distinguish from FHD.

    I'm more curious about the Toshiba camera sensor though.

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    02-13-2015 06:46 PM
  4. I Can Be Your Hero's Avatar
    I'd rather a 1080p screen due to it being less stressful on the processor, which would lead to better battery life and having owned an LG G3, I didn't feel there was a perceivable advantage in having a 1440p screen over a 1080p screen.

    5" screen on 1080p is way more than adequate. The M8 was praised for having a great screen last year, I don't see how that will make it a bad screen this year.

    Plus as Habiib has said, there is a lack of 2k content. Most content is made for 1080p. Sure more stuff will roll out eventually and apps will update to 1440p but again, to me the difference going to a 2k screen was negligible.

    I like that HTC will be going with a 1080p screen. Add that with 5" size and 2840mah batter, it should mean a device with some pretty great battery life. Then of course there's HTC's best-in-the-business design and build materials/quality, dual front facing boomsound speakers and the M8's biggest criticism, the camera, getting boosted to a 20mp shooter, I think that's a combination for a pretty spectacular device.

    I think HTC are on track to having the best smartphone of 2015. With the camera being addressed, it's as if the phone will now have no real weaknesses.

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    02-13-2015 07:02 PM
  5. Crimsonforce's Avatar
    I think they had to do 1080P instead of QHD to keep the 810 from overheating. Samsung GS6 is going to be QHD but they aren't using the 810 because of overheating problems. Probably a smart move by HTC since they don't make any chips in house like Samsung (exynos).
    02-13-2015 09:38 PM
  6. James E1's Avatar
    I think they had to do 1080P instead of QHD to keep the 810 from overheating. Samsung GS6 is going to be QHD but they aren't using the 810 because of overheating problems. Probably a smart move by HTC since they don't make any chips in house like Samsung (exynos).
    Don't think that had anything to do with. They know that 1080p is all you need on a screen under 7".

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    02-13-2015 09:42 PM
  7. Crimsonforce's Avatar
    Don't think that had anything to do with. They know that 1080p is all you need on a screen under 7".

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    I don't know for sure that it did but logical thinking would say so. Almost all flagships phone are coming with QHD now. I prefer 1080P for better battery life and performance. Just sharing my thoughts..
    02-13-2015 09:44 PM
  8. James E1's Avatar
    No problem we all have opinions. But using your logic would mean that the M9 ultra would also have a 1080p screen. The M9 ultra is rumored to have the Snapdragon 810 chip and have a QHD screen. So IMO that has nothing to do with it.
    02-14-2015 12:35 AM
  9. Senden's Avatar
    Can you really tell the difference on a 5inch screen anyway? Any word on memory expansion? Didn't the M8 come with a micro sd slot? Hope that returns for the M9.
    02-14-2015 08:38 AM
  10. spiff_p239's Avatar
    I personally don't see the need for such a high resolution screen and appreciate the fact that it will be cheaper to purchase off-contract as a result.
    02-14-2015 11:17 AM
  11. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    With the lack of native 2K content and the given screen size, I'm glad they aren't wasting resources on something I wouldn't notice nor be able to distinguish from FHD.

    I'm more curious about the Toshiba camera sensor though.

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    While this is true, I would have preferred the QHD screen because as more 2K videos start rolling out, you can experience it as they do, rather than having to change to a new phone later to finally experience it...I like the fact that companies are starting to incorporate QHD this early because it gives them and consumers a head start to try it out. And I can assure u a 2K video will be noticeable different than a 1080p one on a cell phone. I'v compared my Z3 to the Note 4 playing a 2K video and the difference is quite noticeable
    02-15-2015 01:15 PM
  12. Habiib's Avatar
    While this is true, I would have preferred the QHD screen because as more 2K videos start rolling out, you can experience it as they do, rather than having to change to a new phone later to finally experience it...I like the fact that companies are starting to incorporate QHD this early because it gives them and consumers a head start to try it out. And I can assure u a 2K video will be noticeable different than a 1080p one on a cell phone. I'v compared my Z3 to the Note 4 playing a 2K video and the difference is quite noticeable
    What!?!?! How is there a noticeable difference between 1080p and 1440p on ~5" display. Do you realize how close your viewing distance will have to be from the display to even remotely notice a big difference on a screen that size? The only exception would be if you zoom in on native 2K or higher video (via scaling). Also, I'm not seeing any widespread rollout of native 2K content. The only 2K content that I've noticed to be somewhat widely available is YouTube videos (that have the option to begin with). Why on earth would a company even devote resources to making 2K content when 4K media is the most adopted successor to 1080p and is what most mid to high-end consumer TVs are supporting? On a 2K display, 4K content would have to be down scaled, and yes that includes mobile devices that can record 4K video. Even if you want to include gaming, what percentage of available or planned games for mobile devices, have been modified or developed for 2K resolution. The question is quite simple, what major benefit does a 1440p display offer over a 1080p display on a mobile phone? If someone says more detailed images, then how many scenarios are there where the said difference can be clearly identified?

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    02-15-2015 02:59 PM
  13. msavic6's Avatar
    There are multiple aspects that combine to create a great display. Resolution is only a small part of the whole equation. The iPhone 6 has a great looking display and it isn't even 720p while other devices like the G3 have a QHD screen yet look like "crap" in comparison.

    Color Accuracy, white balance, brightness, contrast, and viewing angles are all ultimately more important than the resolution. You don't need QHD resolution to make a great display but you do need the above aspects to make a great display.

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    02-15-2015 03:09 PM
  14. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    What!?!?! How is there a noticeable difference between 1080p and 1440p on ~5" display. Do you realize how close your viewing distance will have to be from the display to even remotely notice a big difference on a screen that size? The only exception would be if you zoom in on native 2K or higher video (via scaling). Also, I'm not seeing any widespread rollout of native 2K content. The only 2K content that I've noticed to be somewhat widely available is YouTube videos (that have the option to begin with). Why on earth would a company even devote resources to making 2K content when 4K media is the most adopted successor to 1080p and is what most mid to high-end consumer TVs are supporting? On a 2K display, 4K content would have to be down scaled, and yes that includes mobile devices that can record 4K video. Even if you want to include gaming, what percentage of available or planned games for mobile devices, have been modified or developed for 2K resolution. The question is quite simple, what major benefit does a 1440p display offer over a 1080p display on a mobile phone? If someone says more detailed images, then how many scenarios are there where the said difference can be clearly identified?

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    Well yeah I do not dispute that the difference may not be a huge one, but its definitely noticeable. It may also have something to do with the type of screen technology that each company uses. Samsung used AMOLED and Sony uses its own IPS I believe. All I can say is that the difference was clearly noticeable on the phones screen when I compared. And my point is not saying that phones companies should make 2K, but merely phones developers should start making phones in preparation for the latest video resolution (be it 2K, or 4K) that are starting to be prevalent and soon the norm, so long as it doesnt affect the phone performance. It is not disputable that 2K and 4K videos will start being the norm in a few years. Why wait till then to develop them when companied can make them now, without severely affecting phone performance? I think Samsung has done a good job with that on the Note 4. It was able to use a QHD screen and keep battery performance at an optimal level. I personally think more phone companies should learn to do the same. I have no problem with HTC sticking with 1080p. I just wont be getting that phone personally.
    02-15-2015 03:20 PM
  15. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    There are multiple aspects that combine to create a great display. Resolution is only a small part of the whole equation. The iPhone 6 has a great looking display and it isn't even 720p while other devices like the G3 have a QHD screen yet look like "crap" in comparison.

    Color Accuracy, white balance, brightness, contrast, and viewing angles are all ultimately more important than the resolution. You don't need QHD resolution to make a great display but you do need the above aspects to make a great display.

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    This is agree with for sure. I am sure that if 2 different companies had QHD resolution screens, they would certainly not look the same. I know Samsung is usually bright and over saturated, which does add to the look and affect of how a video or picture looks. LG is less saturated and looks much different
    02-15-2015 03:21 PM
  16. warpdrive's Avatar
    Well yeah I do not dispute that the difference may not be a huge one, but its definitely noticeable. It may also have something to do with the type of screen technology that each company uses. Samsung used AMOLED and Sony uses its own IPS I believe. All I can say is that the difference was clearly noticeable on the phones screen when I compared. And my point is not saying that phones companies should make 2K, but merely phones developers should start making phones in preparation for the latest video resolution (be it 2K, or 4K) that are starting to be prevalent and soon the norm, so long as it doesnt affect the phone performance. It is not disputable that 2K and 4K videos will start being the norm in a few years. Why wait till then to develop them when companied can make them now, without severely affecting phone performance? I think Samsung has done a good job with that on the Note 4. It was able to use a QHD screen and keep battery performance at an optimal level. I personally think more phone companies should learn to do the same. I have no problem with HTC sticking with 1080p. I just wont be getting that phone personally.
    Why wait? Then why did you not skip the S5 and jump on the G3? With all the flaws, it wasn't a bad screen and 2K no less.

    I understand that you're a huge Samsung fan and I get that you may want to stay with them at this time. But the N6 and the G3 already had great screens besides the note 4 and well you didn't jump ship.

    Now you're saying that if only the m9 had a QHD display you would have left Samsung? I'm sorry, but I just don't belive it based on your past. The Samsung S6 could have had a 720p screen and you would have gotten it and sadly, us regular full time readers of this site know this.

    With much respect,
    Warpdrive

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    02-15-2015 04:48 PM
  17. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    Why wait? Then why did you not skip the S5 and jump on the G3? With all the flaws, it wasn't a bad screen and 2K no less.

    I understand that you're a huge Samsung fan and I get that you may want to stay with them at this time. But the N6 and the G3 already had great screens besides the note 4 and well you didn't jump ship.

    Now you're saying that if only the m9 had a QHD display you would have left Samsung? I'm sorry, but I just don't belive it based on your past. The Samsung S6 could have had a 720p screen and you would have gotten it and sadly, us regular full time readers of this site know this.

    With much respect,
    Warpdrive

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    I'm not even saying this as a Samsung fan, I am just saying what I think
    I currently have the Z3 and I LOVE this phone. Its way better than the S5. I switched mainly because the camera and the battery life. The low light on the Z3 is eons better than the S5

    I'm not sure why you got so offended by my post. I can tell you a lot of things I dislike about the S6 (such as the bezels, and I am hoping they fix the camera), but the fact that you judge me by something I've posted shows the immaturity of some of the people on this forum.
    02-15-2015 05:17 PM
  18. Habiib's Avatar
    Well yeah I do not dispute that the difference may not be a huge one, but its definitely noticeable. It may also have something to do with the type of screen technology that each company uses. Samsung used AMOLED and Sony uses its own IPS I believe. All I can say is that the difference was clearly noticeable on the phones screen when I compared. And my point is not saying that phones companies should make 2K, but merely phones developers should start making phones in preparation for the latest video resolution (be it 2K, or 4K) that are starting to be prevalent and soon the norm, so long as it doesnt affect the phone performance. It is not disputable that 2K and 4K videos will start being the norm in a few years. Why wait till then to develop them when companied can make them now, without severely affecting phone performance? I think Samsung has done a good job with that on the Note 4. It was able to use a QHD screen and keep battery performance at an optimal level. I personally think more phone companies should learn to do the same. I have no problem with HTC sticking with 1080p. I just wont be getting that phone personally.
    Ahhh there's one caveat I missed. With AMOLED display technology, THERE IS a huge difference between the FHD and QHD panels. The pixel arrangement itself is why the difference is so noticeable, as evident when comparing say the Note 3 and Note 4 displays. The icons, images, etc are noticeably sharper on QHD AMOLED panels vs FHD. If the HTC One series were using AMOLED tech, then maybe would sign off on the notion that it would be of great benefit to incorporate QHD resolution, but for LCD panels, not much.

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    02-15-2015 05:18 PM
  19. warpdrive's Avatar
    I'm not even saying this as a Samsung fan, I am just saying what I think
    I currently have the Z3 and I LOVE this phone. Its way better than the S5. I switched mainly because the camera and the battery life. The low light on the Z3 is eons better than the S5

    I'm not sure why you got so offended by my post. I can tell you a lot of things I dislike about the S6 (such as the bezels, and I am hoping they fix the camera), but the fact that you judge me by something I've posted shows the immaturity of some of the people on this forum.
    So if I shouldn't judge you based on what you posted both in the past and currently, then what should I judge you by? Hmmm, see what I mean.

    As for owning the z3, I had no idea. I'm glad that you are willing to try other things, unlike what I thought before. I stand corrected.

    But above all I want to point out that I'm not trying to be hostile with you at all. If anything, I respect the contribution you provide in both the Samsung forums as well as the rest of this website. If my last reply seemed otherwise, I'm sorry for the confusion.

    Yet, you still didn't answer my question.
    Since the G3,N6,and the N4 all have a 2K screens (2 of them Amoled), why did you not get one since you feel it is so important at this time? It's a legitimate question especially since you went with a phone that doesn't have such a screen to replace your S5. Or maybe a better way of asking my question is, why is it important now yet wasn't important to you say in the past 6 months?

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    02-15-2015 07:19 PM
  20. smooth4lyfe's Avatar

    Yet, you still didn't answer my question.
    Since the G3,N6,and the N4 all have a 2K screens (2 of them Amoled), why did you not get one since you feel it is so important at this time? It's a legitimate question especially since you went with a phone that doesn't have such a screen to replace your S5. Or maybe a better way of asking my question is, why is it important now yet wasn't important to you say in the past 6 months?

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    The screen type is not dispositive to my choosing of a phone. I look at everything as a whole. On one my biggest requirements in a phone is the camera. The N6 and the N4 just do not do justice in that area. As for the G3, I was never really a fan of LG phones, though I was considering getting the LG Flex.

    When it comes to the screen type, its only one of the things I look like, but that alone will not justify my decision to buy a phone.
    02-15-2015 07:37 PM
  21. I Can Be Your Hero's Avatar
    On one my biggest requirements in a phone is the camera. The N6 and the N4 just do not do justice in that area.
    By N4 do you mean Note 4? If so, hasn't that been praised as one of the best (if not the best) cameras on an Android phone?

    In any case, as mentioned the major difference between the 1440p display of the Note 4 and the 1080p display of the Xperia Z3 is the screen technology. Samsung have done extremely well with the AMOLED displays now and the Note 4 has a truly excellent screen. Better than anything I've seen. However that is major differing point of the Z3 and Note 4, not necessarily the resolution.

    I'd rather stick to a 1080p screen. Most content is for 1080p, and 2k content is negligible on a 2k screen. Having owned a G3, there was not a single time when I thought 'oh yeah, this is better than the 1080p screens I had'. We're at a point now where resolution increases are heavily susceptible to diminishing returns.

    I hope the 5" 1080p screen for the One M9 is true. I'd rather the better battery life and a pretty much negligible difference in resolution.
    02-16-2015 12:29 AM
  22. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    By N4 do you mean Note 4? If so, hasn't that been praised as one of the best (if not the best) cameras on an Android phone?

    In any case, as mentioned the major difference between the 1440p display of the Note 4 and the 1080p display of the Xperia Z3 is the screen technology. Samsung have done extremely well with the AMOLED displays now and the Note 4 has a truly excellent screen. Better than anything I've seen. However that is major differing point of the Z3 and Note 4, not necessarily the resolution.

    I'd rather stick to a 1080p screen. Most content is for 1080p, and 2k content is negligible on a 2k screen. Having owned a G3, there was not a single time when I thought 'oh yeah, this is better than the 1080p screens I had'. We're at a point now where resolution increases are heavily susceptible to diminishing returns.

    I hope the 5" 1080p screen for the One M9 is true. I'd rather the better battery life and a pretty much negligible difference in resolution.
    Sorry I meant the Nexus not the Note
    and yes I do see your point. I personally prefer the AMOLED on the S5 to the IPS on the Z3, but the Z3 brightness of the screen in sunlight is much much better than the S5

    I guess at the end of the day, it comes to what each person looks for in a phone. I'm more of a person that wants the latest tech in the phone, which can be a good and a bad thing considering QHD will affect battery performance. I don't think the S6 will have better battery life than the Z3 (which I get about 1.5 days without charge), but I am hoping it will balance that out with everything else
    02-16-2015 12:38 AM
  23. I Can Be Your Hero's Avatar
    Sorry I meant the Nexus not the Note
    and yes I do see your point. I personally prefer the AMOLED on the S5 to the IPS on the Z3, but the Z3 brightness of the screen in sunlight is much much better than the S5
    Yeah that is true. Because LCD's are backlit, they can go to higher brightness levels which especially helps in bright day light.

    I guess at the end of the day, it comes to what each person looks for in a phone. I'm more of a person that wants the latest tech in the phone, which can be a good and a bad thing considering QHD will affect battery performance. I don't think the S6 will have better battery life than the Z3 (which I get about 1.5 days without charge), but I am hoping it will balance that out with everything else
    Fair enough. You have your own checklist of what you're after on a phone. For me, I want a balance of all things, not just the latest and greatest. If higher resolution screens means less battery life, then no, I'll like the lower resolution screen with better battery. I don't want a camera that's only really good in bright, well-lit areas, but I want it to also be very good in low light shots too (of which, only the iPhone 6/6+ that I've seen strikes that balance well).

    It's funny because I don't recall anyone or any reviewer saying the One M8's screen was no good, but now all of a sudden the One M9 isn't good enough if it doesn't have some particular resolution? I don't buy that argument. If the screen was great on the M8 at a particular resolution, then it's still great this year with that same resolution.
    02-16-2015 12:43 AM
  24. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    Yeah that is true. Because LCD's are backlit, they can go to higher brightness levels which especially helps in bright day light.



    Fair enough. You have your own checklist of what you're after on a phone. For me, I want a balance of all things, not just the latest and greatest. If higher resolution screens means less battery life, then no, I'll like the lower resolution screen with better battery. I don't want a camera that's only really good in bright, well-lit areas, but I want it to also be very good in low light shots too (of which, only the iPhone 6/6+ that I've seen strikes that balance well).

    It's funny because I don't recall anyone or any reviewer saying the One M8's screen was no good, but now all of a sudden the One M9 isn't good enough if it doesn't have some particular resolution? I don't buy that argument. If the screen was great on the M8 at a particular resolution, then it's still great this year with that same resolution.
    Agree with the camera point...the camera is actually among my top factors for choosing a phone, and if the Galaxy S6 had a horrible camera I probably would get a different phone for that reason. That is actually the reason I chose the S5 over the M8 was because I personally though the camera was better on the S5, and is also why I changed to the Z3 (very good low light photos)

    The M8 had a great screen, and I do believe the M9 screen will be just as good if not better than the M8. I have no doubt that the M9 will make an impact this year even if the screen is left at 1080p. Samsung has a marketing advantage over HTC which doesn't help HTC at all, but I believe both will be very good phones.
    02-16-2015 12:52 AM
  25. warpdrive's Avatar
    Smooth and Hero,

    When I originally used the abbreviation of N4, I was talking about the note 4 as I clearly was talking about 2k screens.

    With that said, I hope that we all find a good phone that matches our needs. With a great camera for Smooth and a long lasting phone for Hero.

    Personally my dream phone would have a great camera with an f2.0 lens and OIS. But I don't think HTC is going to do this unless the rumors just didn't include it or leakers just didn't know it was included.

    A phone camera was never a big deal for me as I use a dSLR for important stuff and only use my phone when I want a quick snap of something. 4k recording is ultra low on my list as I would use a real camcorder for such things if truly needed. But I do allot of gaming on my phone and not the kind like candy crush. So I'm looking for an update to the adrino 330 that is in my phone. The S6 is on my short list as well because of this and I'm not ruling out the G4 because I liked the G3 allot but AT&T destroyed it with removing the FM radio and forcing you to use a different type of wireless charging then the rest of the phones that have this feature. You couldn't even buy it unlocked like HTC, Samsung, and Motorola phones.

    Again Smooth, I'm sorry if I originally sounded harsh or upset that you're a Samsung fan. I didn't mean anything by it. After all, I'm an HTC fan. No biggie.

    I do think that you got a great phone with that Z3. It has the best screen Sony put out IMHO. Never played with it much longer then 5 mins but it was much better then the original Z that a friend imported. I'm also glad to hear that it takes great low light shots for you as it didn't get such high marks in some reviews, but we all know that reviews aren't everything.

    Anyway, again, gl to everyone in buying their next phone. My we one day find our dream phone with all the specs that we are asking for and the software that is both pleasant in its functions and our eyes.... And battery life that lasts all week. Lol

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    02-16-2015 05:52 AM
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